Post-Game Talk: #29 - 12/8/19 | RANGERS @ golden knights

[ReggieDunlop68]

Shattenkirk with his right hand chopped off would be better than Staal.

I mean shatty isn't better at defense than Staal when Staal has one eye, so idk what the right hand off would do besides make his offensive game worse.

Note: when i refer to Staal being better at defense than Shatty, I'm talking about his entire career, and how defense is played. If the EA sports definition of the defender is being used, forgive me.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Lol yes but that’s not all that went into the decision of buying him out

They bought him out to avoid their jealousy of his amazing-ness .

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

there are a few staunch Staal defenders left.

And those who Think PMD= bad defensively and suck at everything= good defensively.

No one thinks that.

 

[Tob]

Graves >> Staal. You can build a Stanley Cup winning defense with the defensemen Glen Sather passed over for Staal-Girardi.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

3rd in 5v5 P/60 (1.95) behind Carlson (2.42) and Makar (2.03).

Regarding the right side of the defence, they're great but the left side is a huge issue. Everybody feels like Trouba has come into his own lately, what changed? He now plays with Skjei. Whichever pairing Skjei is on performs significantly better than the others (aside from the anomaly that was Staal-Fox). Hajek-X, Lindgren-X, Staal-X are by far the three worst pairings in the league in terms of shot attempt and expected goal differential.

This type of imbalance would be fine if Skjei was a legit top defenceman who can carry a pairing, but we know that he's at best somewhere around "above average". In fact, despite him posting great metrics (which usually correlate very well with "he's doing well" sentiments about defencemen) most fans think he's not great and have a lot of issues with his game still based on what they're seeing on the ice - indicating that it is in fact his partners that are the main drivers of success.

It's hard to take away anything else than "Staal and our rookie LDs aren't NHL caliber right now".

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Even if Skjei was top pairing, I don't know if this much of an imbalance would be "fine", per se. That's still a huge negative impact. I feel like on a lot of top teams in the NHL or good teams that are filled with depth, they don't have a ton of huge negative impact players. Take Carolina, MTL for example.

Although I understand your point. But the Rangers have a lot of puck possession anchors on D right now. Whether that's Ruff, the players themselves a combo of both or whatever; who knows. We also have puck possession anchors on offense this year(Howden, Kakko namely. As much as it pains me to say that Kakko is one, that's factual). Although the Rangers this season barely have any real high-impact puck possession players aside from Panarin, Fox, Fast, Chytil, and Buch. Maybe Skjei to a lesser extent?

 

[wolfgaze]

In the recent Brooks article it said that the line-up would remain the same for the next game - so does that also mean Georgiev is getting the start again?

 

[Rempe73]

I would think the one the young man puts on the back of his jersey should do

I don’t think that was his choice. They Americanized his name. I have no problem with that, but I just like Shestyorkin more.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I don’t think that was his choice. They Americanized his name. I have no problem with that, but I just like Shestyorkin more.

Yorkshire

 

[Larrybiv]

On a completely different subject,.. with the new rule that you must leave the ice when losing your helmet,... how is it they allow them to fight with the helmet off?

Actually thought they had made the rule that if the helmet comes off during a fight......fight is OVER!
Dont know answer though, to your question.

 

[Irishguy42]

I don’t think that was his choice. They Americanized his name. I have no problem with that, but I just like Shestyorkin more.

Teams don't get to tell players what their last names are when signing contracts and stuff, and that's pretty much what the name on the jersey is based on, soooooooooooooooo...

Pretty confident that Igor chose "Shesterkin"

 

[TominNC]

Teams don't get to tell players what their last names are when signing contracts and stuff, and that's pretty much what the name on the jersey is based on, soooooooooooooooo...

Pretty confident that Igor chose "Shesterkin"

Maybe Igor will change it to make 5 fans happy

 

[Deleted member 23124]

In the recent Brooks article it said that the line-up would remain the same for the next game - so does that also mean Georgiev is getting the start again?

According to what I've been seeing, Henrik will start.

 

[Rempe73]

Maybe Igor will change it to make 5 fans happy

Lmao dude he doesn’t need to change anything. I don’t know why it’s such a big deal to you. I said I don’t mind how his last name is spelled, but I personally like Shestyorkin. And I’ll keep calling him that for now.

 

[Cmox]

Maybe Igor will change it to make 5 fans happy

I say f*** it, he should alternate it each game.

 

[Rempe73]

Teams don't get to tell players what their last names are when signing contracts and stuff, and that's pretty much what the name on the jersey is based on, soooooooooooooooo...

Pretty confident that Igor chose "Shesterkin"

Yea that’s probably likely

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Teams don't get to tell players what their last names are when signing contracts and stuff, and that's pretty much what the name on the jersey is based on, soooooooooooooooo...

Pretty confident that Igor chose "Shesterkin"

Teams don't get to clarify what a player's legal name is before signing a contract?

 

[McRanger]

Teams don't get to clarify what a player's legal name is before signing a contract?

Legal name in which alphabet?

 

[TominNC]

I say **** it, he should alternate it each game.

Maybe home and road jerseys with Shestyerkin for alternates

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Legal name in which alphabet?

The same spelling on his work visa used for a North American legal binding contract.