2024 NHL Draft Thread (CBJ to pick 4th)

[Aaaarrgghh]

i think calling him one-dimensional is a bit reductive. he's an offensive powerhouse – elite shooting, elite one-on-one skill, high-end hockey IQ and good passing.

the comp i've seen is that he's similar to kucherov and is the kind of guy who you build an elite power play around.

the reason why that appeals to me (assuming laine gets moved at some point) is that it allows columbus to 'flip' PP1 – gaudreau could attack downhill on the left flank with fantilli in the high slot and eiserman in the right circle as one-timer options.

in cbj terms, he'd be like a left handed panarin who is more inclined to shoot the puck.

I'll take your word for it at the moment! Right now, I'm still holding out hope for a turnaround starting with the Blackhawks game.

 

[ColumbusTrill]

That spot can go to somebody who actually contribute and try and make an NHL team. But you win. Let's hire anchors.

Literally every AHL team has players on AHL contracts. There aren't enough roster spots to have an ahl team full of 2 way guys

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

Head coach fired right before the season. Healthy scratching “star” players. Young prospects not panning out. Nine game losing streak.

Pretty obvious were in the midst of another lost season under the bald asshole and crappy ownership.

Bring on the tank.

See:

 

[Michigan Magic]

Too bad we're playing for the 3rd pick. You know Chicago and Edmonton are getting the top spots.

 

[majormajor]

i think calling him one-dimensional is a bit reductive. he's an offensive powerhouse – elite shooting, elite one-on-one skill, high-end hockey IQ and good passing.

the comp i've seen is that he's similar to kucherov and is the kind of guy who you build an elite power play around.

the reason why that appeals to me (assuming laine gets moved at some point) is that it allows columbus to 'flip' PP1 – gaudreau could attack downhill on the left flank with fantilli in the high slot and eiserman in the right circle as one-timer options.

in cbj terms, he'd be like a left handed panarin who is more inclined to shoot the puck.

FYI Eiserman is RH. Hockeydb has it wrong.

I think we already have more than enough pieces to remodel our PP (once we give up on Zach as PP QB).

Chinakhov and Fantilli are both great halfwall options as well, either as one timer threats or "attack downhill" guys. Fantilli is really impressive in how many one timers he can get on net. He hasn't scored them in the NHL yet but he's been very close several times, and hardly ever missed.

I'm sick of myself saying it but the player we need is basically Bjorkstrand, a smart two-way veteran who keeps the puck in the offensive zone with long possessions. We can't really fix that shortcoming through the draft I don't think. You'd sooner train a player like Chinakhov to become that, and that will still take years.

 

[BB88]

Fantilli
Eiserman/Celebrini

Their new plan is to build the next dynasty by tanking for 2 years at the perfect time

This was the thread that I hoped we wouldn’t have to be bothered to open

I guess you still have to wish for the best possible C to play behind Fantilli or best possible RD to play above or behind Jiricek.

Another W or LD would feel bit of a ”waste”

 

[Michigan Magic]

Fantilli
Eiserman/Celebrini

Their new plan is to build the next dynasty by tanking for 2 years at the perfect time

This was the thread that I hoped we wouldn’t have to be bothered to open

I guess you still have to wish for the best possible C to play behind Fantilli or best possible RD to play above or behind Jiricek.

Another W or LD would feel bit of a ”waste”

Once the two offensive players are gone here's the RD. Michigan State just swept #1 Wisconsin.

Artyom Levshunov 2024 NHL Draft Profile | Tankathon

Artyom Levshunov - D - Michigan State - 2024 NHL Draft Profile and Stats

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[koteka]

What do the Finns of the board think of Konsta Helenius? Is he a center?

 

[tunnelvision]

the comp i've seen is that he's similar to kucherov and is the kind of guy who you build an elite power play around.

the reason why that appeals to me (assuming laine gets moved at some point) is that it allows columbus to 'flip' PP1 – gaudreau could attack downhill on the left flank with fantilli in the high slot and eiserman in the right circle as one-timer options.

in cbj terms, he'd be like a left handed panarin who is more inclined to shoot the puck.

Where have you seen that comp? Feels a little too generous based on the playmaking I've seen from Eiserman.

Panarin and Kucherov are deceptive, technically very talented and versatile puck handlers and super quick at processing the game offensively, which make them elite passers even in stationary playmaking on the PP. They can see 3 or 4 passing options from the halfwall and are capable of making any of those passes because of their skillset.

Eiserman's puckhandling looks quick and consistent, and he's great at receiving even difficult passes and one-time them, but next to those two guys his versatility and creativity is lacking. On top of that, I'm not sure if he's even close to having that agility/elusiviness Panarin has. Panarin consistently came out of corner battles with the puck and could change shooting/passing angles on the top of faceoff circle with a couple quick steps that would fool the PKer.... so far I haven't seen that type of stuff from Eiserman.

FYI Eiserman is RH.

He's lefty.

 

[JacketsDavid]

Too bad we're playing for the 3rd pick. You know Chicago and Edmonton are getting the top spots.

San Jose will be locked into the top 3 IMO.

Chicago would be just their luck to win it again...

 

[Monk]

Too bad we're playing for the 3rd pick. You know Chicago and Edmonton are getting the top spots.

I'm starting to think this is the year the Jackets actually win - and then the pick is a massive bust.

A new flavor of same ol' Jackets.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Where have you seen that comp? Feels a little too generous based on the playmaking I've seen from Eiserman.

scott wheeler's latest mailbag said he reminds him of kucherov stylistically on the power play but that kucherov is on a different level.

Eiserman’s a trickier one because there are so few one-dimensional ultra-scorer types to pull from and he doesn’t really fit the moulds of any of Phil Kessel, Patrik Laine, Cole Caufield, etc. He can give you that feeling that Nikita Kucherov gives you inside the offensive zone. By the time a pass across to Kucherov is about five to 10 feet away from him, you know whether there’s a goal or a post coming — you say in your head, “Here comes another one,” before he has even touched the puck. Kucherov’s never been a committed or reliable defensive player, either. But Kucherov is also a 100-point machine and first-ballot Hall of Famer, and it goes without saying that Eiserman is almost certainly not going to be that (I’m not sure Eiserman has the rest of Kucherov’s offensive arsenal/feel either).

 

[stevo61]

FYI Eiserman is RH.

I think we already have more than enough pieces to remodel our PP (once we give up on Zach as PP QB).

Chinakhov and Fantilli are both great halfwall options as well, either as one timer threats or "attack downhill" guys. Fantilli is really impressive in how many one timers he can get on net. He hasn't scored them in the NHL yet but he's been very close several times, and hardly ever missed.

I'm sick of myself saying it but the player we need is basically Bjorkstrand, a smart two-way veteran who keeps the puck in the offensive zone with long possessions. We can't really fix that shortcoming through the draft I don't think. You'd sooner train a player like Chinakhov to become that, and that will still take years.

Fantilli will get there, he'll be our most disruptive forward for years. Marchenko and Chinakhov both have the body for it and while Marchenko has the skills aswell we will have to see if they have the determination to do it. Thats always the toughest part. These kids can either fade into nothing or do what Bjorkstrand did and evolve his game.
Its an interesting thought exercise to determine the best way to get players to think that way. Sometimes you want them in positions to succeed but they can get comfortable. You sometimes want them in tougher spots to work through and many fizzle or just feel slighted.
Our staff management and coaching clearly have no 1 size fits all thing which normally is fair but for Sillinger specifically it seems like there is no plan.

It would be cool if we could draft someone like Ryan Leonard though if im picking a name from last draft

 

[Michigan Magic]

Fantilli will get there, he'll be our most disruptive forward for years. Marchenko and Chinakhov both have the body for it and while Marchenko has the skills aswell we will have to see if they have the determination to do it. Thats always the toughest part. These kids can either fade into nothing or do what Bjorkstrand did and evolve his game.
Its an interesting thought exercise to determine the best way to get players to think that way. Sometimes you want them in positions to succeed but they can get comfortable. You sometimes want them in tougher spots to work through and many fizzle or just feel slighted.
Our staff management and coaching clearly have no 1 size fits all thing which normally is fair but for Sillinger specifically it seems like there is no plan.

It would be cool if we could draft someone like Ryan Leonard though if im picking a name from last draft

I like Chinakov and his abilities as far as skating and getting puck, but I'd take Barney Fife over him in an accuracy contest.

 

[Cowumbus]

I'm starting to think this is the year the Jackets actually win - and then the pick is a massive bust.

A new flavor of same ol' Jackets.

I don’t think Celebrini will bust. His floor is a 3rd line player.

 

[Monk]

I don’t think Celebrini will bust. His floor is a 3rd line player.

But what if the Jackets win the lottery and get the 1st pick?

 

[stevo61]

But what if the Jackets win the lottery and get the 1st pick?

He'll be the best player in franchise history and then force his way out

 

[Michigan Magic]

He'll be the best player in franchise history and then force his way out

I'm thinking more like Eli Manning and him refusing to play here.

 

[ViD]

At this point it does not even matter where we finish and who we get to pick, we are not getting a player like Fantilli anyway as we’re not going to pick first overall , so let’s get the BPA whoever that is

 

[DarkandStormy]

Fall on your weenie for Celebrini?

 

[Doggy]

Cole Eiserman sounds like an awfully good consolation prize.

 

[Cowumbus]

Fall on your weenie for Celebrini?

Malarkey for Macklin

 

[majormajor]

I get why folks like @ThisIsMyAlibi seek solace in tanking, but this is one of those years where when you suck, it just sucks. There is no compensation for it, it just sucks. It's not good for the now or for the future.

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

I get why folks like @ThisIsMyAlibi seek solace in tanking, but this is one of those years where when you suck, it just sucks. There is no compensation for it, it just sucks. It's not good for the now or for the future.

Correct. Way too much talent in the org to be this bad.

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

Good loss!!