Rumor: 2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agent Thread: Living in a Stagnant Pond Edition

[Balthazar]

Bednar: "It's disappointing for me, it's not frustrating at all...I went through that months ago"

So at the deadline like the rest of us?

 

[nammerus]

God willing, this guy retires and goes off into this sunset. His 6 million dollar anchor may have cost this team a proper chance at a cup 2 of the last 3 years.

 

[Avs_19]

Bring back Kadri. Avs need their swagger back.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Realistically the deadline must have been a slap to the face for the coaches and the players. They are truly all-in on the Avs and see that the GM doesn't do shit when he could.

 

[dahrougem2]

Bednar: "It's disappointing for me, it's not frustrating at all...I went through that months ago"

So at the deadline like the rest of us?

I genuinely believe the players on this team - and now Bednar - are pissed at MacFarland for his shitty deadline.

The guy had one f***ing job and he failed miserably. We all heard Devon Toews pre-TDL talking about how they expected players to be arriving to help, and only Lars Eller showed up.

MacFarland is on thin ice I hope this Summer.

 

[Balthazar]

I genuinely believe the players on this team - and now Bednar - are pissed at MacFarland for his shitty deadline.

The guy had one f***ing job and he failed miserably. We all heard Devon Toews pre-TDL talking about how they expected players to be arriving to help, and only Lars Eller showed up.

MacFarland is on thin ice I hope this Summer.

I mean knowing what we know now (no Landy, no Nuke, no Manson) getting rentals at the deadline would have been wasted assets.

But cMac didn't know those things back then so it's not an excuse.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I just dont even know what they'll come up with this summer for the roster.

We're honestly so f***ed. Zero cap space, zero depth, very little draft capital, literally the worst group of prospects in the league.

They will have to get unbelievably creative to find a good solution that actually makes the team better next year, and I have absolutely zero trust or expectation that CMac is the GM capable of being creative enough to find a good solution.

 

[The Moops]

I mean knowing what we know now (no Landy, no Nuke, no Manson) getting rentals at the deadline would have been wasted assets.

But cMac didn't know those things back then so it's not an excuse.

We for sure win this series with a non-garbage deadline. Maybe even beat the Stars. Who knows after that. It was a wasted year by CMac. Absolutely no excuses

 

[TruePowerSlave]

MacFarland is on thin ice I hope this Summer.

I highly doubt it.

The Avs very rarely fire anyone. They don't even want to trade players that have term. It's an extremely loyal group.

 

[Avs_19]

Compher, Cogliano, Helm, EJ, and JJ should all be gone.

I wouldn’t offer them a contract regardless of the price. Compher will get a decent deal elsewhere so he won’t be worth it and it’s time to move on from the 35+ year olds. They should’ve done it last year.

Try to re-sign Rodrigues at a reasonable price.

I’d take Eller back on a cheap deal.

Retain Malgin as well. He’ll be cheap and he’s a RFA.

On the fence with Nieto but he can probably go too. Works hard but just not enough there.

 

[nammerus]

At least CMac can sleep soundly tonight knowing he was the architect of one of the most embarrassingly pathetic cup defences in recent memory. Made even memorable by the all-world performances of Mac and Rants, who carried his sorry ass team for most of the year.

 

[dahrougem2]

Compher, Cogliano, Helm, EJ, and JJ should all be gone.

I wouldn’t offer them a contract regardless of the price. Compher will get a decent deal elsewhere so he won’t be worth it and it’s time to move on from the 35+ year olds. They should’ve done it last year.

Try to re-sign Rodrigues at a reasonable price.

I’d take Eller back on a cheap deal.

Retain Malgin as well. He’ll be cheap and he’s a RFA.

On the fence with Nieto but he can probably go too. Works hard but just not enough there.

Unless you can get Rodrigues back at the same cap hit or less, he can walk, too.

Malgin can go, too. Bednar clearly has zero trust in this player and he's useless as a bottom six forward.

Nieto can go back to SJ. Will probably make more money there anyways.

 

[Freudian]

My off-season play:

I wouldn't mind Rodrigues, Eller and JMFJ back (cheaper than have to trade for him at trade deadline anyway). Compher at up to $4M/year for three years is fine.

The rest of the UFAs should be gone.

Sign Newhook if he costs nothing and hope it clicks. Can't really trade him for anything and Avs need cheap forwards.

Trade Toews to the highest bidder. Use the assets to go for a 2C. Hang on to Girard.

Rub some ground Koala/Tiger/Kitten mixture on Gabes knee.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Toews needs to be either dealt around the draft to the highest biddder or re-signed as soon as possible.

It's vital that they don't lose him for nothing, that would be incredibly foolish.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Compher, Cogliano, Helm, EJ, and JJ should all be gone.

I wouldn’t offer them a contract regardless of the price. Compher will get a decent deal elsewhere so he won’t be worth it and it’s time to move on from the 35+ year olds. They should’ve done it last year.

Try to re-sign Rodrigues at a reasonable price.

I’d take Eller back on a cheap deal.

Retain Malgin as well. He’ll be cheap and he’s a RFA.

On the fence with Nieto but he can probably go too. Works hard but just not enough there.

Agreed on all accounts.


If ERod would sign for say 3x$2-2.5M, I'd take him back to be a 3rd line guy that is the 1st guy to jump into the Top 6 for injuries.

Eller, I'd take him back as the 4C, but that means basically a 1x$1M sort of deal. I wouldn't go any higher then that.

Malgin, offer him a deal at his QO and if he wont take it I wouldn't sign him. I'd probably bring back Nieto on a league minimum deal as well and he and Malgin can be the 12th and 13th forwards, but if they didn't sign Nieto and went after a UFA instead that'd be fine as well.


Lehky - Mack - Mikko
Landy - ???? - Nuke
ERod - ???? - ????
LOC - Eller - Malgin
Nieto



Toews - Makar
G/Byram - Manson
???? - Malinski
Hunt



That's how I would see it. Trade one of the LD, I honestly dont care who. If its G, we probably aren't solving the 2C spot using him... if its Toews/Byram we really should be able to get a pretty good 2C along the lines of a Lindholm or Dubois with extensions in place.

At this point, we're probably very very tight on cap space. talking sub $1M for our #6D, sub $1M for our 3rd line winger.... Maaaaybe you've got $1.5-2M for our 3rd line Center. If they do have that kind of space, I'd trade a 1st for Hayton out of Arizona for the 3C honestly.




But knowing CMac, they'll do nearly nothing.

 

[Avaholic29]

Compher, Cogliano, Helm, EJ, and JJ should all be gone.

I wouldn’t offer them a contract regardless of the price. Compher will get a decent deal elsewhere so he won’t be worth it and it’s time to move on from the 35+ year olds. They should’ve done it last year.

Try to re-sign Rodrigues at a reasonable price.

I’d take Eller back on a cheap deal.

Retain Malgin as well. He’ll be cheap and he’s a RFA.

On the fence with Nieto but he can probably go too. Works hard but just not enough there.

So basically bring back the bottom 6 that didn’t do a damn thing for 7 games? Nah I’m good.

dump the entire bottom 6 except Eller. Trade Newhook and Toews. If landy isn’t even remotely healthy LTIR him and use the money instantly in free agency.

 

[nammerus]

So basically bring back the bottom 6 that didn’t do a damn thing for 7 games? Nah I’m good.

dump the entire bottom 6 except Eller. Trade Newhook and Toews. If landy isn’t even remotely healthy LTIR him and use the money instantly in free agency.

Even if you dump them all, can't imagine CMac being able to find anyone of use to fill in the gaps.

 

[dahrougem2]

Folks, don't get crazy on me now.

I appreciated Eller's play more than most but the facts are the facts:

Will be 34 next season
Had his worst season statistically since he was a rookie in 2010
Isn't going to get any faster
Was part of the bottom six that couldn't muster 1 goal

By all means if Eller wants to come back for 900K - 1M max and play as the 4C - sure, I can make time for that. However, anything above that and you say no thanks.

 

[The Moops]

Folks, don't get crazy on me now.

I appreciated Eller's play more than most but the facts are the facts:

Will be 34 next season
Had his worst season statistically since he was a rookie in 2010
Isn't going to get any faster
Was part of the bottom six that couldn't muster 1 goal

By all means if Eller wants to come back for 900K - 1M max and play as the 4C - sure, I can make time for that. However, anything above that and you say no thanks.

CMac thinks he's a 2C, so I'm not sure we'd get that kind of discount

 

[Rumplesnipeskin]

Folks, don't get crazy on me now.

I appreciated Eller's play more than most but the facts are the facts:

Will be 34 next season
Had his worst season statistically since he was a rookie in 2010
Isn't going to get any faster
Was part of the bottom six that couldn't muster 1 goal

By all means if Eller wants to come back for 900K - 1M max and play as the 4C - sure, I can make time for that. However, anything above that and you say no thanks.

Eller isn’t a piece you re-sign if you want to build a Stanley Cup winning team; deadline grasp, sure, but I agree wholeheartedly that unless he takes a pay cut and ice time cut, he can take a hike.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I have a feeling EJ comes back.


Wouldn't be my first choice but I think a league minimum deal to be the #6/7D would be fine. Mostly just to keep his locker room presence with the group for 1 more year.


He cam split time with Malinski as the 3RD essentially.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Yep.


Since March 3rd I've been completely numb to this season. Just waiting for it to end so we can either see some meaningful change in the summer or watch it slip away for good.

Bingo. It was motivation killer.

 

[Hasbro]

Bednar: "It's disappointing for me, it's not frustrating at all...I went through that months ago"

So at the deadline like the rest of us?

Megna claimed on waivers.

 

[dahrougem2]

Let me know if you think this is crazy but offseason moves:

Girard, Newhook and Olausson to Washington for Kuznetsov 1.9M retained

Francouz to LA for a draft pick

Re-sign Rodrigues for 2M
Re-sign Cogliano for 1M
Re-sign one of EJ/JMFJ for 900K

Sign Drouin for 1M
Sign Kampf for 2.5M
Sign Reimer for 900K

Drouin - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Landeskog - Kuznetsov - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Kampf - Rodrigues
Cogliano - Foudy - O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
JMFJ/EJ - Malinski

Georgiev
Reimer

That team comes in under the 83.5M cap ceiling.

 

[LOFIN]

I refuse to put TDL all on MacFarland, him and Sakic work as a package.