Patriots/NFL 2023 Off-Season II: Patriots cornerback Jack Jones arrested at Logan Airport with guns in carry-on luggage

[Fenway]

Rosemary Scapicchio knows how the Boston courts work.

The NFLPA tells each player what the local laws are. In the Patriots case they focus on Mass and Rhode Island. In any event, most of the chatter I have seen was calling Jones stupid and not for him being a thug.



Of note, Scapicchio said outside the courtroom my client WAS ALMOST FIRED over these charges which tells me she has put the team on notice.

The Feds could still bring charges

Transporting Firearms and Ammunition | Transportation Security Administration

www.tsa.gov

 

[Alicat]

Rosemary Scapicchio knows how the Boston courts work.

The NFLPA tells each player what the local laws are. In the Patriots case they focus on Mass and Rhode Island. In any event, most of the chatter I have seen was calling Jones stupid and not for him being a thug.



Of note, Scapicchio said outside the courtroom my client WAS ALMOST FIRED over these charges which tells me she has put the team on notice.

The Feds could still bring charges

Transporting Firearms and Ammunition | Transportation Security Administration

www.tsa.gov

Going to depend on how the ATF wants to handle this.

 

[McGarnagle]

Does Logan fall under the jurisdiction of Mass State Police or Federal?

 

[Alicat]

Does Logan fall under the jurisdiction of Mass State Police or Federal?

The state. It is run by Massport which is a state agency.

The issues are a lack of a FID and the large capacity magazines. That is where the Feds could step in.

I am hoping the Conduct Detrimental Podcast covers the case because I honestly cannot find anything about the Feds charging him.

Everything points to the ATF's definition of the items found but states it is up to the local jurisdiction, in this case MA, to charge them if a criminal referral is made.

Latest firearm catch at Boston Logan International Airport surpasses 2019 total | Transportation Security Administration

BOSTON – Transportation Security Administration (TSA) officers stopped another passenger from carrying a loaded firearm onto an airplane on Wednesday at Boston Logan International Airport (BOS). On Wednesday afternoon during security screening, TSA officers detected a firearm in a male...

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[DangleCity]

Patriots gotta think he's got a good chance of either getting off without jail time or that this might drag out long enough for him to play the season either that or they would have cut him

 

[Alicat]

Patriots gotta think he's got a good chance of either getting off without jail time or that this might drag out long enough for him to play the season either that or they would have cut him

Probably hoping this gets dragged out.

I did see Dan Wallach tweet about the case but I haven't read it. Hoping the Conduct Detrimental podcast puts out a quick episode to go over the case so we know exactly what he's facing.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Patriots gotta think he's got a good chance of either getting off without jail time or that this might drag out long enough for him to play the season either that or they would have cut him

What a desperate, desperate organization. Sad times.

 

[JRull86]

What a desperate, desperate organization. Sad times.

Because they don't just flat out cut a guy before the legal process plays out?

This isnt Hernandez, where what he was accused and arrested for was grounds for outright release regardless of the legal process.

As others have point out, plenty of players and a coach have had this happen. Sure it's absolutely stupid and reckless, etc., but I'm going to go out on a limb and say no NFL team would cut a talented player for this until the legal system does it's thing.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

What a desperate, desperate organization. Sad times.

What the hell are you spouting off about?

What, because they didnt denounce a guy who is charged with non violent crimes before the legal process has a chance to play out?

 

[Johnnyduke]

What the hell are you spouting off about?

What, because they didnt denounce a guy who is charged with non violent misdemeanors before the legal process has a chance to play out?

I mean, are the Grizzlies a desperate organization because they haven't cut Ja Morant after multiple instances of brandishing firearms?

I believe I am "spouting off" about this Jack Jones situation. At least I think that's what I was talking about.

As for Ja Morant, he is a franchise player in a league where you are nothing without one. So yes, the Grizzlies will do everything they can to try and turn Morant around. Jack Jones is not even close to being in a Ja Morant category talent/impact wise. That's the desperation. And I heard Jeff Howe on radio saying he would be very, very surprised if Jones isn't cut--he didn't say anything about waiting for a drawn out legal process to conclude. You can stop pretending like saying Jones should be cut is some far fetched idea. It's not. You can certainly disagree with it though.

It was fun when this organization used to be good at the sport of football!

 

[JRull86]

I believe I am "spouting off" about this Jack Jones situation. At least I think that's what I was talking about.

As for Ja Morant, he is a franchise player in a league where you are nothing without one. So yes, the Grizzlies will do everything they can to try and turn Morant around. Jack Jones is not even close to being in a Ja Morant category talent/impact wise. That's the desperation. And I heard Jeff Howe on radio saying he would be very, very surprised if Jones isn't cut--he didn't say anything about waiting for a drawn out legal process to conclude. You can stop pretending like saying Jones should be cut is some far fetched idea. It's not. You can certainly disagree with it though.

It was fun when this organization used to be good at the sport of football!

I still don't understand how not immediately cutting a guy with obvious talent, who slipped in the draft due to warranted off field concerns, makes them desperate.

He's a quality starting CB after a rookie year, which is a premium position in the league. Why would a team not want to try to stick through it if possible?

We aren't talking about some bottom of the roster fodder.

 

[McGarnagle]

Remember when we used to be up our own ass over the "Patriot Way" and shit? The league and the world have changed a lot in the last decade or two.

The narrative is probably going to be how it was Myra Kraft who kept the moral standards of the team up after she made them cut Christian Peter, then after she died RKK let the standards slip a lot, but really it's more of a universal shift in the power dynamics between owners and players. Different times.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Put the guy in jail, Cant let this go without serious consequences. Its no joke what he did and he needs to be punished.

Then again its football so no big deal I guess. The NFL should have its own prison system save tax payers dealing their bullshit.

 

[Therick67]

Put the guy in jail, Cant let this go without serious consequences. Its no joke what he did and he needs to be punished.

Then again its football so no big deal I guess. The NFL should have its own prison system save tax payers dealing their bullshit.

I feel this is rare, but i agree with you. It's not like we don't have a gun problem in this Country and actual laws that address this exact issue.

People say mean stuff on Twitter though, so he's somehow the victim..

 

[Troublesome 85]

And airports are federal

 

[Johnnyduke]

I still don't understand how not immediately cutting a guy with obvious talent, who slipped in the draft due to warranted off field concerns, makes them desperate.

He's a quality starting CB after a rookie year, which is a premium position in the league. Why would a team not want to try to stick through it if possible?

We aren't talking about some bottom of the roster fodder.

There's a reason Jones fell to a 4th round pick or whatever he was. Everybody knows he's talented. I'm sure a lot of teams simply don't want to deal with the headache. They have the right to stick it out and see where this goes. All I am saying is don't pretend like saying he should be cut is some outrageous take. Not when you take into account his entire history. Both in college and the suspension last year with the Patriots.

 

[McGarnagle]

Let's not act like he's Henry Ruggs and legit killed someone. He was just being a moron and fronting like a tough guy gangster.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Let's not act like he's Henry Ruggs and legit killed someone. He was just being a moron and fronting like a tough guy gangster.

I would say a guy with a history of being a moron/unreliable isn't going to end up being a great asset going forward. Issues in college and already suspended by the Patriots as a rookie.

 

[LouJersey]

What a desperate, desperate organization. Sad times.

Vikings cut Jeff Gladney

Cornerback Jeff Gladney is no longer a member of the Vikings.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

and he was innocent

Jury finds former Vikings CB Gladney not guilty

Former Vikings cornerback Jeff Gladney was found not guilty on felony assault charges Thursday by a Dallas jury.

www.espn.com

Pats need to hold on to all the talent they have, they would have cut him if it were when they were good.

 

[LouJersey]

Former ASU and current Patriot CB Jack Jones arrested in Boston for trying to bring guns onto plane

Former Arizona State cornerback and current New England Patriot Jack Jones was arrested at Boston’s Logan Airport today after trying to bring two guns onto a plane.

www.yardbarker.com

Three strikes I guess?

 

[GatorMike]

In slightly more pleasant news, I'd been wondering what the construction at that end of Gillette was about...

 

[CDJ]

Vikings cut Jeff Gladney

Cornerback Jeff Gladney is no longer a member of the Vikings.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

and he was innocent

Jury finds former Vikings CB Gladney not guilty

Former Vikings cornerback Jeff Gladney was found not guilty on felony assault charges Thursday by a Dallas jury.

www.espn.com

Pats need to hold on to all the talent they have, they would have cut him if it were when they were good.

Very different crimes in terms of how people perceive them, especially in the NFL with how they’ve dropped the ball on so many DV cases in the past. It also didn’t help Gladney that he wasn’t good at football

 

[LouJersey]

Very different crimes in terms of how people perceive them, especially in the NFL with how they’ve dropped the ball on so many DV cases in the past. It also didn’t help Gladney that he wasn’t good at football

Gladney had just finished his rookie season as a 1st round pick. Vikings cut him, no questions asked. Vikings stunk and still cut him. Jones now has two stupid trangressions, and the Pats are only keeping him because they need talent. Super Bowl years he would have been cut the day after it happened.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

In slightly more pleasant news, I'd been wondering what the construction at that end of Gillette was about...

Maybe he can use that money to set up a defense fund for his criminals he drafts in the future.

 

[CDJ]

Gladney had just finished his rookie season as a 1st round pick. Vikings cut him, no questions asked. Vikings stunk and still cut him. Jones now has two stupid trangressions, and the Pats are only keeping him because they need talent. Super Bowl years he would have been cut the day after it happened.

the perception of the crimes is very different- they’re apples and oranges, one is an accused violent crime against a woman and the other crime leaves behind zero victims (unless you consider Jack a victim of his own stupidity)


and yes Gladney was a guy they reached on and he ended up being one of the worst corners in football that one year he played before his untimely death