Pre-Game Talk: 2023 HFStars Boy Rank PRE Discussion

[piqued]

#1	Wyatt Johnston	C	Canada	2021 Draft - 23rd	86.8
#2	Logan Stankoven	C/RW	Canada	2021 Draft - 47th	75.0
#3	Mavrik Bourque	C	Canada	2020 Draft - 30th	76.5
#4	Thomas Harley	D	Canada	2019 Draft - 18th	87.5
#5	Lian Bichsel	D	Switzerland	2022 Draft - 18th	52.2
#6	Ty Dellandrea	C	Canada	2018 Draft - 13th	66.7
#7	Antonio Stranges	LW	USA	2020 Draft - 123rd	37.7
#8	Artem Grushnikov	D	Russia	2021 Draft - 48th	53.7
#9	Riley Damiani	C/RW	Canada	2018 Draft - 137th	96.3
#10	Christian Kyrou	D	Canada	2022 Draft - 50th	43.2
#11	Ayrton Martino	LW	Canada	2021 Draft - 73rd	74.2
#12	Francesco Arcuri	C/LW	Canada	2021 Draft - 175th	60.0
#13T	Matej Blumel	LW	Czechia	Free Agent Signing	50.0
#13T	Albert Sjoberg	RW	Sweden	2021 Draft - 207th	50.0
#15	Oskar Back	C	Sweden	2018 Draft - 75th	32.0
#16	Conner Roulette	LW	Canada	2021 Draft - 111th	34.5
#17	Daniel Ljungman	C	Sweden	2020 Draft - 154th	52.2
#18	George Fegaras	D	Canada	2022 Draft - 83rd	38.1
#19	Matthew Seminoff	RW	USA	2022 Draft - 179th	23.1
#20	Remi Poirier	G	Canada	2020 Draft - 185th	30.8

Thought it'd be interesting to post last year's list to get a feel for the graduates and washouts. Obviously there will be risers and fallers but only 4 "available" new spots.

 

[Zapp]

#1	Wyatt Johnston	C	Canada	2021 Draft - 23rd	86.8
#2	Logan Stankoven	C/RW	Canada	2021 Draft - 47th	75.0
#3	Mavrik Bourque	C	Canada	2020 Draft - 30th	76.5
#4	Thomas Harley	D	Canada	2019 Draft - 18th	87.5
#5	Lian Bichsel	D	Switzerland	2022 Draft - 18th	52.2
#6	Ty Dellandrea	C	Canada	2018 Draft - 13th	66.7
#7	Antonio Stranges	LW	USA	2020 Draft - 123rd	37.7
#8	Artem Grushnikov	D	Russia	2021 Draft - 48th	53.7
#9	Riley Damiani	C/RW	Canada	2018 Draft - 137th	96.3
#10	Christian Kyrou	D	Canada	2022 Draft - 50th	43.2
#11	Ayrton Martino	LW	Canada	2021 Draft - 73rd	74.2
#12	Francesco Arcuri	C/LW	Canada	2021 Draft - 175th	60.0
#13T	Matej Blumel	LW	Czechia	Free Agent Signing	50.0
#13T	Albert Sjoberg	RW	Sweden	2021 Draft - 207th	50.0
#15	Oskar Back	C	Sweden	2018 Draft - 75th	32.0
#16	Conner Roulette	LW	Canada	2021 Draft - 111th	34.5
#17	Daniel Ljungman	C	Sweden	2020 Draft - 154th	52.2
#18	George Fegaras	D	Canada	2022 Draft - 83rd	38.1
#19	Matthew Seminoff	RW	USA	2022 Draft - 179th	23.1
#20	Remi Poirier	G	Canada	2020 Draft - 185th	30.8

Thought it'd be interesting to post last year's list to get a feel for the graduates and washouts. Obviously there will be risers and fallers but only 4 "available" new spots.

Seminoff should jump up quite a bit

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

What is the number on the right?

 

[jballa95]

What is the number on the right?

Percentage of votes

 

[piqued]

Personal picks for risers, some modest others bigger jumps: Arcuri, Back, Seminoff, Poirier

 

[serp]

Looking at the list yeah Stranges at 7 was way too high .

By the way Murray counts as a prospect now right ? He was on an AHL deal when last season started but now he's on an NHL deal . So officially a prospect now.

 

[Ghost of Kyiv]

I think Kyrou and Poirier will be my big risers. I don't really love the undersized non-elite skating offensive defensemen archetype, but I'm not sure who else to vote for at 4. Poirier seems like a real prospect now, should go in the top 10. Grushnikov will be my biggest faller.

 

[Magic Mittens]

I honestly know nothing about our new picks this past draft. To be honest without looking I don't even remember who we picked in the 2nd lol. Bertucci maybe

Seminoff is my biggest riser

Grush is maybe my biggest faller, although I think his ceiling is easier to reach to most

This year's rankings are going to fun after the first 3. Doubt will see many runaways

 

[piqued]

By the way Murray counts as a prospect now right ? He was on an AHL deal when last season started but now he's on an NHL deal . So officially a prospect now.

No, Murray is 25 years old. The cutoff is still 23 or under by the start of the season. He played 5 years of college.

 

[Satan]

whats the old hf "prospect" definition? U-25 and < 50 nhl games played? I wish our sub wasnt purged

@piqued feel free to take the reigns on this years boy rankings if U have the time,

 

[piqued]

OK, got the alphabetical list ready to go, will fire it up Monday AM

 

[Frozen Failure]

whats the old hf "prospect" definition? U-25 and < 50 nhl games played? I wish our sub wasnt purged

@piqued feel free to take the reigns on this years boy rankings if U have the time,

Are you saying my Scott Glennie post is gone?

 

[Zapp]

Are you saying my Scott Glennie post is gone?

Many receipts banished to the void.

 

[piqued]

Speaking of Glennie, I found my personal top 20 ranking from 2012

1. Chiasson
2. Faksa
3. Oleksiak
4. R. Smith
5. Eakin
6. Nemeth
7. Dillon
8. Campbell
9. Fraser
10. Stransky
11. Molin
12. Glennie
13. Ritchie
14. Bystrom
15. A. Smith
16. Guptill
17. Sceviour
18. Shore
19. Klingberg
20. Winther

Bold = >100 NHL GP

Pool was sorta stacked ngl

 

[Smelling Salt]

Damn that Klingberg take is ICE COLD

 

[piqued]

Still on the list tho

 

[Klockis]

I remember a lot of us being wrong about R. Smith vs. Chiasson. I wonder if there was a chance we could have traded Chiasson rather than Smith for Seguin.

Also I remember when Dillon was heralded as our future defensive stud. We have come a long way since then.

 

[eartotheground]

Speaking of Glennie, I found my personal top 20 ranking from 2012

1. Chiasson
2. Faksa
3. Oleksiak
4. R. Smith
5. Eakin
6. Nemeth
7. Dillon
8. Campbell
9. Fraser
10. Stransky
11. Molin
12. Glennie
13. Ritchie
14. Bystrom
15. A. Smith
16. Guptill
17. Sceviour
18. Shore
19. Klingberg
20. Winther

Bold = >100 NHL GP

Pool was sorta stacked ngl

12/20 over 100 games seems really good.

 

[Frozen Failure]

When an org only needs to have two guys a draft year to make the show to be average, the Stars kind of killed it for a few years there. But there were a few stinkers. 2006, 2008, 2014, 2016... anything in the last 5 years still has a shot at not being a stinker but we'll see. 2018 ain't lookin too hot. We can only hope that their current pool of kids turns out to be just as strong as it was 11 years ago.

With less memes and busts because of attitude.

 

[hairylikebear]

I remember a lot of us being wrong about R. Smith vs. Chiasson. I wonder if there was a chance we could have traded Chiasson rather than Smith for Seguin.

Also I remember when Dillon was heralded as our future defensive stud. We have come a long way since then.

Being wrong about Chiasson taught me to value IQ over tools. Reilly has IQ.

 

[trenchard]

Was high on Joe Morrow...

 

[Smelling Salt]

Was high on Joe Morrow...

Lots of people were. There was alot of "the Stars stole Joe Morrow in the trade!" but didn't the pick the Stars sent to Pittsburgh end up being Jake Guentzel? Ouch.

 

[Ratbath]

i expect stranges' silly feet to earn him a couple more spots than he probably should have.

 

[David Castillo]

Since we're strolling down memory lane, I'm thinking about random hills I'd be willing to die on: Mattias Backman was legit and deserved a shot.

 

[jballa95]

I remember being really hyped for Austin Smith after he had that monster season at Colgate.