Prospect Info: 2023 HFDevils Prospect Rankings #2

[TBF1972]

That's "She-moan" to you.

you are moaner

 

[Nubmer6]

you are moaner

How did YOU know???

 

[forceten]

How did YOU know???

The walls are too thin

 

[TBF1972]

How did YOU know???

may i know your mo....

 

[Nubmer6]

Last call... closing the poll in 1 hour.

 

[Caser]

Last call... closing the poll in 1 hour.

Oh the suspense! The outcome could be decided like at the last moment on this one.

 

[Nubmer6]

Oh the suspense! The outcome could be decided like at the last moment on this one.

I usually wait till I see at least 100 votes (we've usually got around 120 in previous polls), just to make sure everyone gets their say. It could also be important when the race for who to add is tight.

 

[JimEIV]

Quick and dirty 15 minute tier list. Guys in the same tier I value as being in roughly the same ballpark. Obviously, some may rise or fall based on future performances.

Things I weigh, in order of most important to least important:

1.) Top end skill
2.) Consistent improvement/upward trajectory
3.) Likelihood of being an NHL regular
4.) Remaining development time/rawness
5.) Pedigree (ie, program, family, awards, etc)
6.) Age

Things I don't weigh:

-How we acquired the player
-The position they play
-Capital/assets spent on that player



S Tier
Luke Hughes
Simon Nemec

A Tier
Arseni Gritsyuk
Seamus Casey
Alexander Holtz
Akira Schmid

B Tier
Josh Filmon
Nolan Foote
Graeme Clarke
Topias Vilen
Nico Daws
Daniil Karpovich
Ethan Edwards
Tyler Brennan
Chase Cheslock

C Tier
Tyce Thompson
Chase Stillman
Samu Salminen
Adam Barabosha
Patrick Moynihan
Cam Squires
Lenni Hameenaho
Case McCarthy
Zakhar Bardakov
Santeri Hatakka
Mike Vukojevich
Petr Hauser

Literally don't care about anyone else

I like your criteria a lot. It should be standardized for these rankings.

I do think Holtz has fallen out of the A list though.

 

[forceten]

My ATS rankings, then:

Star Tier
Luke Hughes
Simon Nemec

A Tier
Arseni Gritsyuk
Seamus Casey
Alexander Holtz
Akira Schmid
Topias Vilen

B Tier
Josh Filmon
Nolan Foote
Zakhar Bardakov
Nico Daws
Daniil Karpovich
Tyler Brennan
Artem Barabosha
Lenni Hameenaho

C Tier
Daniil Orlov
Tyce Thompson
Graeme Clarke
Ethan Edwards
Chase Stillman
Chase Cheslock
Cam Squires
Santeri Hatakka
Petr Hauser
Charlie Leddy
Jakub Malek
Daniil Misyul
Artem Shlaine
Cole Brown

D Tier
Case McCarthy
Mike Vukojevich
Patrick Moynihan
--
Shane Bowers
Cole Brady
Brian Halonen
Ripshot43
Viktor Hurtig
Nikita Popugayev
Jaromir Pytlik
Samu Salminen
Yegor Zaitsev

...and anyone else

 

[Billdo]

Quick and dirty 15 minute tier list. Guys in the same tier I value as being in roughly the same ballpark. Obviously, some may rise or fall based on future performances.

Things I weigh, in order of most important to least important:

1.) Top end skill
2.) Consistent improvement/upward trajectory
3.) Likelihood of being an NHL regular
4.) Remaining development time/rawness
5.) Pedigree (ie, program, family, awards, etc)
6.) Age

Things I don't weigh:

-How we acquired the player
-The position they play
-Capital/assets spent on that player



S Tier
Luke Hughes
Simon Nemec

A Tier
Arseni Gritsyuk
Seamus Casey
Alexander Holtz
Akira Schmid

B Tier
Josh Filmon
Nolan Foote
Graeme Clarke
Topias Vilen
Nico Daws
Daniil Karpovich
Ethan Edwards
Tyler Brennan
Chase Cheslock

C Tier
Tyce Thompson
Chase Stillman
Samu Salminen
Adam Barabosha
Patrick Moynihan
Cam Squires
Lenni Hameenaho
Case McCarthy
Zakhar Bardakov
Santeri Hatakka
Mike Vukojevich
Petr Hauser

Literally don't care about anyone else

I think this tier system is pretty spot on although I might swap some guys between some tiers. Whole heartedly agree with the top two tiers.

 

[Zippy316]

My ATS rankings, then:

Star Tier
Luke Hughes
Simon Nemec

A Tier
Arseni Gritsyuk
Seamus Casey
Alexander Holtz
Akira Schmid
Topias Vilen

B Tier
Josh Filmon
Nolan Foote
Zakhar Bardakov
Nico Daws
Daniil Karpovich
Tyler Brennan
Artem Barabosha
Lenni Hameenaho

C Tier
Daniil Orlov
Tyce Thompson
Graeme Clarke
Ethan Edwards
Chase Stillman
Chase Cheslock
Cam Squires
Santeri Hatakka
Petr Hauser
Charlie Leddy
Jakub Malek
Daniil Misyul
Artem Shlaine
Cole Brown

D Tier
Case McCarthy
Mike Vukojevich
Patrick Moynihan
--
Shane Bowers
Cole Brady
Brian Halonen
Ripshot43
Viktor Hurtig
Nikita Popugayev
Jaromir Pytlik
Samu Salminen
Yegor Zaitsev

...and anyone else

I’d move Clarke up a tier. There’s guys in that B tier list that I can see not making the year to year progression he has.

Salminen belongs in the C tier too. I think he can follow the Clarke career path of slow and steady progression to a third line role.

Not sure Barabosha has shown enough to be in the B tier either.

Can’t really argue with the rest though.

 

[forceten]

For me, this season will be huge for Clarke to put up or shut up. I think he needs to show more than he has - I have him a significant level below Foote and Holtz in readiness and I'm not super convinced about either of them sticking either.

It's potential - Barabosha looks like he has the skill and top end potential, though very young.

 

[Guadana]

For me, this season will be huge for Clarke to put up or shut up. I think he needs to show more than he has - I have him a significant level below Foote and Holtz in readiness and I'm not super convinced about either of them sticking either.

It's potential - Barabosha looks like he has the skill and top end potential, though very young.

I feel like it's too early to put Barabosha in B tier and I feel I didn't make enough attention to Orlov, because he is much more interesting and potentially strong prospect than people understand. Its nothing surprising for me, its not the first time, I'm more surprised that a lot of people didn't give enough credits to Bardakov, I was thinking I made a lot for it. Im happy you do.
And I don't know with Brennan, us his results are good enough to put him in B tier? Didnt saw nought of him, and I don't know how good or bad his team was.

 

[forceten]

I gave a lot of leeway to the much younger guys because their ceiling is higher and they have more time to achieve it vs. guys in the system 2+ years that have a tighter timeframe. Not an easy choice, and I'm also a big fan of defensive defensemen who can play well-posiitoned hockey ... Orlov probably is on B tier really, but I had him at top of C.

Brennan has a lot of potential per those that know goalies (I can't make heads or tails of it) so I stuck him in B with Daws. We shall see, they can rise and fall fast!