HF Habs: 2023 HF Habs Prospect Rankings #3

[SannywithoutCompy]

Mailloux certainly has high potential but his decision making has not impressed me any time I watch him, whereas Engstrom's has every time.

Going Engstrom

 

[Vachon23]

I didn’t really watch Engstrom except at the U20 and 1 game but I was impress each time so I’m going with him here

 

[EveryDay]

Roy or Mailloux.

 

[Colezuki]

At this point it's a mushy middle tier, depends on what you favor, I took Roy
Roy, Mailloux, Engstrom and Beck

 

[Deebs]

I went with Roy even though I have concerns with his skating and how that translates to the next level. Good thing is we have time with him and he seems like a kid that will put in the effort to make it better.

So cerebral, so clutch.

 

[Naslundforever]

I didn’t really watch Engstrom except at the U20 and 1 game but I was impress each time so I’m going with him here

Looked calm like Ray Bourque against the rookies at camp this week

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Engstrom for me he looks like a sure top 4 dmen that coaches will rely on and love

 

[WinterLion]

Mailloux de bain


add Kapanen

Engstrom for me he looks like a sure top 4 dmen that coaches will rely on and love

almost went with him.... I have a great feeling about him...

 

[HomeAndHome]

Beck

Engstrom/Roy/Mailloux in the same tier but slightly behind for me.

Add Norlinder

 

[26Mats]

Beck

Engstrom/Roy/Mailloux in the same tier but slightly behind for me.

Add Norlinder

I have it similar:

Mailloux

Engstrom/Roy/Beck in the same tier.

Hard for me to evaluate Engstrom, though I like everything I've seen and heard. Roy has a high ceiling. Beck has a probability of reaching his floor and being a very effective player at helping us win in the playoffs.

Mailloux's tools are off the charts. I still do need to get more information on the toolbox though. I hope he and Barron aren't the next Beaulieu's.

 

[Mrb1p]

Maillouxs tools are being used to talk about his place here but we completely ignore that Engstrom is just as good a skater, has size, similar skills, better hands and is actually reliable and a positive player IQ wise.

 

[26Mats]

Maillouxs tools are being used to talk about his place here but we completely ignore that Engstrom is just as good a skater, has size, similar skills, better hands and is actually reliable and a positive player IQ wise.

Not sure Engstrom is as good of a skater as Mailloux, or that he has better hands and offensive hockey IQ. I also need more viewing to assess his defensive hockey IQ. Then there's shot stregth of snappers, wristers, and slappers.All in all for me I like Engstrom. I just need more viewing.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

No Roy?

Do you have Engstrom ahead of Reinbacher because you're really high on Engstrom or because you're luke warm on Reinbacher?

In my long association with hockey I have seen a lot of "Roy type" players: great hands, superior offensive vision, some size, but slow feet. Some Roy type players turn out to be Mark Stone, but most, turn out to be AHLers. Roy wasn't even prominent in the development camp. Roy was taken in the fourth round in his draft class, an accurate reflection of what the hockey world thinks of his potential.

As for Reinbacher, I think he is an excellent prospect, I'm just concerned about his straight-forward speed. In the tapes that I have seen of his play, nothing of his skating pops out that screams, superstar. He's not slow, but elite skating is not his calling card. One play/sequence during the development camp underscored my concerns in this regard. Reinbacher was supporting an offensive rush in the offensive zone when the puck was turned over and he had to turn and chase the play. Reinbacher couldn't catch the counter attacking forward. He wasn't exactly chasing Jack Eichel. He may get faster. He may not. Engstrom is already fast.

 

[Mrb1p]

Not sure Engstrom is as good of a skater as Mailloux, or that he has better hands and offensive hockey IQ. I also need more viewing to assess his defensive hockey IQ. Then there's shot stregth of snappers, wristers, and slappers.All in all for me I like Engstrom. I just need more viewing.

Engstroms hands are sublime, really. Skating wise, theyre both great. Youre basically trading off a booming shot for hockey IQ

 

[Mrb1p]

In my long association with hockey I have seen a lot of "Roy type" players: great hands, superior offensive vision, some size, but slow feet. Some Roy type players turn out to be Mark Stone, but most, turn out to be AHLers. Roy wasn't even prominent in the development camp. Roy was taken in the fourth round in his draft class, an accurate reflection of what the hockey world thinks of his potential.

As for Reinbacher, I think he is an excellent prospect, I'm just concerned about his straight-forward speed. In the tapes that I have seen of his play, nothing of his skating pops out that screams, superstar. He's not slow, but elite skating is not his calling card. One play/sequence during the development camp underscored my concerns in this regard. Reinbacher was supporting an offensive rush in the offensive zone when the puck was turned over and he had to turn and chase the play. Reinbacher couldn't catch the counter attacking forward. He wasn't exactly chasing Jack Eichel. He may get faster. He may not. Engstrom is already fast.

Calling Reinbachers skating anything short of great is poor evaluation.

 

[26Mats]

Engstroms hands are sublime, really. Skating wise, theyre both great. Youre basically trading off a booming shot for hockey IQ

- There's offensive IQ and defensive IQ. I have to see more of both for both players.

- Mailloux has more size and I think more physicality to his game. But Engstrom may develop more physicality when he adjusts to the North American ice surface.

 

[Vachon23]

Roy wasn't even prominent in the development camp

Roy 1st mission there was not to get hurt in the middle of his summer training

That camp mean really nothing for evaluating any prospect but even more for establishisg prospect. The players that this camp count the most are those in try out ou someone under the radar that want to start the Rookie camp in a good position.

 

[Rapala]

Maillouxs tools are being used to talk about his place here but we completely ignore that Engstrom is just as good a skater, has size, similar skills, better hands and is actually reliable and a positive player IQ wise.

I agree and so do a lot of people. The good news is they are lefty righty but I have a sneaking suspicion we would deploy Engstrom on the right side.
We are surely going to see a major turnover on both sides in the next couple of years. As serviceable as a player like Jonathan Kovacevik has been he can only hope to be our next Kulak at best.

 

[Rapala]

Roy 1st mission there was not to get hurt in the middle of his summer training

That camp mean really nothing for evaluating any prospect but even more for establishisg prospect. The players that this camp count the most are those in try out ou someone under the radar that want to start the Rookie camp in a good position.

Some players pushed hard others didn't some were in game shape others weren't. I am so looking forward to camp this year and I hope to God we keep the cream separate from the curd this time.

 

[KFlint]

Off topic , a comparable for Mailloux, Sheldon Souray? Just guessing, didn’t see him enough but same size and hard shot, not a defensive wizard if I remember correctly…

Voted Roy, but it’s pretty much the Beck, Roy, Engstrom and Mailloux tier here for me.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I agree and so do a lot of people. The good news is they are lefty righty but I have a sneaking suspicion we would deploy Engstrom on the right side.
We are surely going to see a major turnover on both sides in the next couple of years. As serviceable as a player like Jonathan Kovacevik has been he can only hope to be our next Kulak at best.

With all do respect to Kovacevik, if he is still a top 6 defenceman on our team, we will still be awaiting our next playoff appearance. I watched too many forwards last year go around him like a subway turnstile. But I guess he’s better than Wideman.

 

[TT1]

Engstrom

 

[JustAHabFan]

Engstrom is the best of the bunch. He is near NHL ready.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Tough decision between Engstrom/Roy/Beck. I went Engstrom since I think he has the highest chance of playing a "big" role (eg. #3D or a strong top 6er) of the three.

 

[jaffy27]

Wow…top 4 prospects will be defenceman

I’m also intrigued with Struble.

Fun times