2023-24 Player Point Predictions

[Sheppy]

With so many question marks coming into the 2023-24 season, I figure I'd toss together one of these threads. If there's one already created, please delete this.

I always find it fun to come back and look at the predictions at the end of the season to see how accurate/how much of a gongshow the totals are.

Anyways, I'll kick us off...

Forwards:
David Pastrnak: 44-48-92
Brad Marchand: 29-53-82
Pavel Zacha: 23-43-66
Jake DeBrusk: 28-32-60
Charlie Coyle: 19-31-50
James Van Riemsdyk: 16-32-48
Morgan Geekie: 14-20-34
Trent Frederic: 15-18-33
Jakub Lauko: 10-17-27
Jesper Boqvist: 9-17-26
Patrick Brown: 9-12-21
Milan Lucic: 6-10-16
Aj Greer: 4-7-11

Defense:
Charlie McAvoy: 11-49-60
Hampus Lindholm: 10-41-51
Matt Grzelcyk: 6-27-33
Kevin Shattenkirk: 8-23-31
Brandon Carlo: 6-16-22
Derek Forbort: 3-11-14
Jakob Zboril: 2-7-9

Goaltending:
Linus Ullmark: 29-16-5, 2.45 GAA, .916 SV%
Jeremy Swayman: 16-11-5, 2.56 GAA, .913 SV%

Yes, I even went so far as to do goaltending.

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[PlayMakers]

Forwards:
David Pastrnak: 40-50-90
Brad Marchand: 25-50-75
Pavel Zacha: 20-50-70
Jake DeBrusk: 30-30-60
Charlie Coyle: 20-40-60 with PP time. 20-30-50 without PP time.
James Van Riemsdyk: 15-25-40
Jesper Boqvist: 15-25-40
Morgan Geekie: 15-20-35
Trent Frederic: 15-20-35
Jakub Lauko: 10-10-20
Patrick Brown: 5-15-15
Milan Lucic: 10-10-20
Aj Greer: 5-5-10

Defense:
Charlie McAvoy: 10-50-60
Hampus Lindholm: 10-40-5
Matt Grzelcyk: 5-30-35
Kevin Shattenkirk: 5-30-35
Brandon Carlo: 5-15-20
Derek Forbort: 5-10-15
Ian Mitchell: 3-7-10

Goaltending:
Linus Ullmark: 25-15-5, 2.50 GAA, .920 SV%
Jeremy Swayman: 21-10-6, 2.56 GAA, .929 SV%

Swayman steals the starting job by the trade deadline and starts G1 of the playoffs.

 

[wintersej]

I’m here for the Geekie and Boqvist predictions. Huge bellwether of where the team is.

 

[JOKER 192]

With so many question marks coming into the 2023-24 season, I figure I'd toss together one of these threads. If there's one already created, please delete this.

I always find it fun to come back and look at the predictions at the end of the season to see how accurate/how much of a gongshow the totals are.

Anyways, I'll kick us off...

Forwards:
David Pastrnak: 44-48-92
Brad Marchand: 29-53-82
Pavel Zacha: 23-43-66
Jake DeBrusk: 28-32-60
Charlie Coyle: 19-31-50
James Van Riemsdyk: 16-32-48
Morgan Geekie: 14-20-34
Trent Frederic: 15-18-33
Jakub Lauko: 10-17-27
Jesper Boqvist: 9-17-26
Patrick Brown: 9-12-21
Milan Lucic: 6-10-16
Aj Greer: 4-7-11

Defense:
Charlie McAvoy: 11-49-60
Hampus Lindholm: 10-41-51
Matt Grzelcyk: 6-27-33
Kevin Shattenkirk: 8-23-31
Brandon Carlo: 6-16-22
Derek Forbort: 3-11-14
Jakob Zboril: 2-7-9

Goaltending:
Linus Ullmark: 29-16-5, 2.45 GAA, .916 SV%
Jeremy Swayman: 16-11-5, 2.56 GAA, .913 SV%

Yes, I even went so far as to do goaltending.

Wow, very level headed predictions.

I have a little more faith in the netminders than you but otherwise everyone else looks bang on to me. I see both goaltenders with a least 2 more wins each and everything else it takes to get there as far as they are concerned.

 

[13Hockey]

JVR 20-23-43
Zacha 16-44-60
Pasta 46-53-99

Marchand 32-58-90
Coyle 17-29-46
DeBrusk 31-31-62

Merkulov 12-13-25
Geekie 17-24-41
Frederic 11-13-24

Lucic 10-10-20
Brown 5-9-14
Lauko 11-12-23

Grzelcyk 3-25-28
McAvoy 13-70-83

Lindholm 9-32-41
Carlo 5-12-17

Forbort 1-8-9
Shattenkirk 7-23-30

Ullmark 2.10 .926%
Swayman 2.49 .917%

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Forwards:
David Pastrnak: 40-50-90
Brad Marchand: 25-50-75
Pavel Zacha: 20-50-70
Jake DeBrusk: 30-30-60
Charlie Coyle: 20-40-60
James Van Riemsdyk: 15-25-40
Jesper Boqvist: 15-25-40
Morgan Geekie: 15-20-35
Trent Frederic: 15-20-35
Jakub Lauko: 10-10-20
Patrick Brown: 5-15-15
Milan Lucic: 10-10-20
Aj Greer: 5-5-10

Defense:
Charlie McAvoy: 10-50-60
Hampus Lindholm: 10-40-5
Matt Grzelcyk: 5-30-35
Kevin Shattenkirk: 5-30-35
Brandon Carlo: 5-15-20
Derek Forbort: 5-10-15
Ian Mitchell: 3-7-10

Goaltending:
Linus Ullmark: 25-15-5, 2.50 GAA, .920 SV%
Jeremy Swayman: 21-10-6, 2.56 GAA, .929 SV%

Swayman steals the starting job by the trade deadline and starts G1 of the playoffs.

Need to be more creative.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

JVR 20-23-43
Zacha 16-44-60
Pasta 46-53-99

Marchand 32-58-90
Coyle 17-29-46
DeBrusk 31-31-62

Merkulov 12-13-25
Geekie 17-24-41
Frederic 11-13-24

Lucic 10-10-20
Brown 5-9-14
Lauko 11-12-23

Grzelcyk 3-25-28
McAvoy 13-70-83

Lindholm 9-32-41
Carlo 5-12-17

Forbort 1-8-9
Shattenkirk 7-23-30

Ullmark 2.10 .926%
Swayman 2.49 .917%

That's a Norris Trophy total for McAvoy.

So far no one has a player scoring more goals than assists.

There's always a couple of those each year.

 

[Grimey]

Forward:
Pastrnak: 51g 36a
Marchand: 28g 45a
Zacha: 24g 37a
DeBrusk: 31g 26a
Coyle: 17g 29a
Geekie: 18g 26a
van Riemsdyk: 23g 16a
Frederic: 20g 15a
Boqvist: 12g 16a
Lauko: 13g 14a
Lucic: 9g 13a
Brown: 6g 9a
Greer: 7g 7a

Defence:
McAvoy: 8g 43a
Lindholm: 7g 39a
Carlo: 3g 16a
Grzelcyk: 5g 21a
Shattenkirk: 4g 20a
Forbort: 1g 11a
Zboril: 2g 6a

Goaltending:
Ullmark: 25-14-5; GAA: 2.49; SV%: .918
Swayman: 21-13-4; GAA: 2.41; SV%: .922

No predictions for anything beyond 13th F/7th D

 

[Mainehockey33]

Pastrnak 48-48-96
Zacha 23-44-69
Debrusk 36-29-65

JVR 19-17-36
Coyle 18-30-48
Marchand 24-35-59

We don’t even know who’s going to make the bottom 6 let alone their point totals. Frederic and Geekie are my dark horses.


McAvoy around 60 points and Lindholm around 45.

 

[goldnblack]

JVR 20-23-43
Zacha 16-44-60
Pasta 46-53-99

Marchand 32-58-90
Coyle 17-29-46
DeBrusk 31-31-62

Merkulov 12-13-25
Geekie 17-24-41
Frederic 11-13-24

Lucic 10-10-20
Brown 5-9-14
Lauko 11-12-23

Grzelcyk 3-25-28
McAvoy 13-70-83

Lindholm 9-32-41
Carlo 5-12-17

Forbort 1-8-9
Shattenkirk 7-23-30

Ullmark 2.10 .926%
Swayman 2.49 .917%

I feel like bolded isn't possible. Either some are too high (the high ones), or the others are too low.

Pastrnak 48-48-96
Zacha 23-44-69
Debrusk 36-29-65

JVR 19-17-36
Coyle 18-30-48
Marchand 24-35-59

We don’t even know who’s going to make the bottom 6 let alone their point totals. Frederic and Geekie are my dark horses.


McAvoy around 60 points and Lindholm around 45.

You had us missing the playoffs I'm guessing? Based on bolded.

 

[Mainehockey33]

I feel like bolded isn't possible. Either some are too high (the high ones), or the others are too low.



You had us missing the playoffs I'm guessing? Based on bolded.

Depends on how my dark horses perform. We’re in Geekie’s hands now.

 

[UncleRico]

I feel like bolded isn't possible. Either some are too high (the high ones), or the others are too low.



You had us missing the playoffs I'm guessing? Based on bolded.

He also has Debrusk and Zacha destroying their previous career highs right above the bolded.

 

[Kegs]

Fun thread.


Forwards:
David Pastrnak: 55- 50- 105
Brad Marchand: 25 - 45 - 70
Pavel Zacha: 25-30-55
Jake DeBrusk: 30-30-60
Charlie Coyle: 15-25-40
James Van Riemsdyk: 10-10-20
Jesper Boqvist: 15-25-40
Morgan Geekie: 15-20-35
Trent Frederic: 25-20-45
Jakub Lauko: 10-15-25
Patrick Brown: 3-5-8
Milan Lucic: 5-10-15 (I think he ends up in the press box some nights. Probably plays the leafs 4x lucic vs reeves)
Aj Greer: 5-10-15
Poitras: 5-20-25

Defense:
Charlie McAvoy: 10-50-60
Hampus Lindholm: 5-40-50
Matt Grzelcyk: 5-20-25
Kevin Shattenkirk: 5-30-35
Brandon Carlo: 5-15-20
Derek Forbort: 5-10-15
Zboril: 2-8-10


Goaltending:
Linus Ullmark: 30-10-5, 2.25 GAA, .920 SV%
Jeremy Swayman: 25-10-2, 2.20 GAA, .929 SV%

I hope my
Math is right.

 

[KrejciWinger]

Brad Marchand 20-50-70
Pavel Zacha 20-35-55
Jake DeBrusk 40-30-70

Matt Grzelcyk 5-30-35
Charlie McAvoy 10-50-60

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Brad Marchand 20-50-70
Pavel Zacha 20-35-55
Jake DeBrusk 40-30-70

Matt Grzelcyk 5-30-35
Charlie McAvoy 10-50-60

Curious as to the rationale that Zacha would have fewer points than last year. Not as curious as those putting 20+ points for Patrick Brown, but still curious.

 

[KrejciWinger]

Curious as to the rationale that Zacha would have fewer points than last year. Not as curious as those putting 20+ points for Patrick Brown, but still curious.

Not so confident he will have a PP1 spot.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Not so confident he will have a PP1 spot.

Fair enough makes sense

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Pasta 42G, 80 pts
Marchand 32G, 61 pts
Charlie Coyle 20G, 58 pts
Zacha 16G, 48 pts
DeBrusk 23G, 44 pts
Boqvist 14G, 34 pts
JVR 16G, 32 pts
Morgan Geekie 13G, 29 pts
Frederic 11G, 24 pts
Lucic 10G, 24 pts
Lauko 5G, 24 pts
Brown 1G, 8 pts

McAvoy 10G, 57 pts
Lindholm 7G, 38 pts
Grzyleck 6G, 30 pts
Shattenkirk 4G, 25 pts
Carlo 4G, 16 pts
Forbort 2G, 12 pts

That's 236 goals (I think) of the team's 261 that I suspect they'll score. 25 goal difference. So between Merkulov, Lysell, McLaughlin, Mitchell, perhaps someone like Richard? Top 18 players last season scored all but 26 of the team's goals.

 

[PlayMakers]

Interesting (and scary) to see people picking Zacha to regress points-wise. Curious as to the rationale?

I figured he'd have a full year with Pasta and that should only boost his numbers, as compared to last year when he spent the first part of it bouncing around from line to line (230+ minutes away from Pasta).

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Interesting (and scary) to see people picking Zacha to regress points-wise. Curious as to the rationale?

I figured he'd have a full year with Pasta and that should only boost his numbers, as compared to last year when he spent the first part of it bouncing around from line to line (230+ minutes away from Pasta).

Uncertainty in role.

He's likely going to be asked to be a C which is a big question mark. And I don't think the lines are in any way a cinch. I doubt we're going to see much in the way of consistency anywhere.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Uncertainty in role.

He's likely going to be asked to be a C which is a big question mark. And I don't think the lines are in any way a cinch. I doubt we're going to see much in the way of consistency anywhere.

I don’t think there is anyone else to even consider putting on the 1st pp unit over Zacha. He was awesome in the bumper position in the playoffs. Unless someone like Merkulov plays out of his mind or something. I’m thinking they’ll go Pastrnak-Zacha-Marchand, Debrusk or JVR for net front, McAvoy?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Certainly what I would try.

But it's not always going to work. And there will be plenty of experimentation with different combos this year when things prove to be inconsistent.

It's not the plug and play that we saw last year.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Certainly what I would try.

But it's not always going to work. And there will be plenty of experimentation with different combos this year when things prove to be inconsistent.

It's not the plug and play that we saw last year.

I’d like to see them try different setups this year. Maybe they don’t have the players for it, but I miss having a playmaker that’s also a scoring threat like Savard on the half wall. I think if they wanted to they could just replace Bergeron with Zacha and keep it pretty much the same though. Maybe experiment with a different setup on the second unit.

 

[Bodit9]

Forwards:
David Pastrnak: 46-46-92
Brad Marchand: 23-45-68
Pavel Zacha: 23-35-58
Jake DeBrusk: 30-30-60
Charlie Coyle: 16-28-42
James Van Riemsdyk: 19-19-38
Morgan Geekie: 13-26-38
Trent Frederic: 15-15-30
Jakub Lauko: 10-13-23
Jesper Boqvist: 10-11-21
Patrick Brown: 5-7-11
Milan Lucic: 7-12-19
Aj Greer: 4-6-10
Georgi Merkulov: 8-8-16

Defense:
Charlie McAvoy: 9-54-63
Hampus Lindholm: 9-32-41
Matt Grzelcyk: 4-19-23
Kevin Shattenkirk: 5-25-30
Brandon Carlo: 5-11-16
Derek Forbort: 3-7-10
Jakob Zboril: 2-4-6
Mason Lohrei: 3-9-12

Goaltending:
Linus Ullmark: 26-16-5; 2.35 GAA; 0.916 SV%
Jeremy Swayman: 20-12-3; 2.31 GAA; 0.918 SV%

 

[DarrenBanks56]

team will still make the playoffs.
we have best goalies in the division.
our defense is still good.
during reg season i think our offense will be better than expected.
playoff time the offense will suffer.