Speculation: 2023-24 Free Agency/Trade Thread II

[darkwingduck]

There’s not a player in the nhl I would trade that package for.

 

[Ducks DVM]

There’s not a player in the nhl I would trade that package for.

That’s a reasonable price for McDavid/McKinnon/Kucherov. That’s it, though.

Those trades never happen because those players aren’t enough to carry the crater left in the team that can afford to make that trade.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

On the main board @Zegs2sendhelp and I were discussing the value of an extended Rantanen to Anaheim and I wanted to see what the Ducks board’s general sentiment would be on a trade like this.

Rantanen (27) has one year left at $9.25m. He’s coming off his second straight 100 point season. He would likely be looking for an extension in the range of $11.5-13m just given comparables in Nylander (8x$11.5m) and Pasternak (8x$11.25m).

The value discussion was in the lines of the following:
Zegras or McTavish
3rd overall or Terry
Lacombe
Clara

What are Duck’s fans thoughts?

Anaheim do not need to be making these kind of trades right now, Anaheim has lots of needs a trade like this at the end of the day gets them where? It would be different if maybe they were a piece from being good but they're not

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

On the main board @Zegs2sendhelp and I were discussing the value of an extended Rantanen to Anaheim and I wanted to see what the Ducks board’s general sentiment would be on a trade like this.

Rantanen (27) has one year left at $9.25m. He’s coming off his second straight 100 point season. He would likely be looking for an extension in the range of $11.5-13m just given comparables in Nylander (8x$11.5m) and Pasternak (8x$11.25m).

The value discussion was in the lines of the following:
Zegras or McTavish
3rd overall or Terry
Lacombe
Clara

What are Duck’s fans thoughts?

I would do Terry and LaCombe for Rantanen. You just can't look past the size and his scoring ability. Both of which are needed here.

 

[Perratrooper]

I would do Terry and LaCombe for Rantanen. You just can't look past the size and his scoring ability. Both of which are needed here.

I would pass on that trade from a Colorado perspective.

 

[Reveille1984]

Why would COL move Rantanen? They're still in a cup window with prime Mac/Makar/Toews/etc. Their cap situation isn't horrendous or anything. Upping Rantanen from $9.25M to $11/12M isn't going to hamstring them that much, and trading him is just going to make them worse in the short term no matter what they get in return.

 

[duxfan1101]

Well this is strange. That makes Stamkos staying even less likely.

 

[AngelDuck]

McDonough would have looked good in Anaheim next to Luneau the next couple years with Fowler being moved elsewhere. Would have been a better fit

 

[duxfan1101]

McDonough would have looked good in Anaheim next to Luneau the next couple years with Fowler being moved elsewhere. Would have been a better fit

Sure, but McDonough has a full NTC, so it doesn't really matter.

 

[KickHisAssZegrass]

That should pretty much guarantee TB is out on Stamkos. Will be interesting to see who's able and willing to give him 9-10m's/yr.

I think Verbeek is going to make an offer for sure

 

[McDonald19]

Never know with Tampa, they might have some cap circumvention up their sleeve, but it sure looks like they don’t have space for Stamkos.

 

[DavidBL]

Never know with Tampa, they might have some cap circumvention up their sleeve, but it sure looks like they don’t have space for Stamkos.

Wonder if they move Sergachev or if they know he'll be out long term.

 

[duxfan1101]

Wonder if they move Sergachev or if they know he'll be out long term.

Sergachev played at the end of their series.

 

[DavidBL]

Sergachev played at the end of their series.

Really? I thought he was out longer. My bad.

 

[GermanRocket7]

I'd definitely throw 2x10M at Stamkos and see if he bites. We'd get a great mentor and leader for the two seasons, can shelter our youth and can easily afford him for that duration, as the most expensive extensions would be in 2026, at the end of this deal. Stammer can cash in and leave for a contender at the TDL in 2026, looking to get another Cup as well as another contract in the realm of 3x6 or so.

 

[MMC]

I get why people want to add Stamkos but I have no clue why people are eager to throw $10M a year at him

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

I get why people want to add Stamkos but I have no clue why people are eager to throw $10M a year at him

Give him 3 years at 7-8 Max

 

[DaGeneral]

Give him 3 years at 7-8 Max

2-3 million dollars is penny wise, pound foolish. It’s not our money. We have cap room. 7-8 is the market for him, we’d have to overpay.

 

[dracom]

Give him 3 years at 7-8 Max

Cant do more than 2 years, need to have room to sign all our rfas.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I get why people want to add Stamkos but I have no clue why people are eager to throw $10M a year at him

On a two year deal (or less I guess) I don't mind giving that type of inflated salary as a bit of a tradeoff for lack of term. A three year deal at a more reasonable number may be a decent compromise. Anything getting into long term and I just can't get behind it.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Cant do more than 2 years, need to have room to sign all our rfas.

Option for buy out on third year.... Otherwise Stamkos is not coming here

 

[Ducks DVM]

I get why people want to add Stamkos but I have no clue why people are eager to throw $10M a year at him

Rebuilding franchises need to overpay for UFA. He will likely be able to get 6-8 where he’d have a legit chance in the playoffs. He will need a Cup or money.

 

[MMC]

Rebuilding franchises need to overpay for UFA. He will likely be able to get 6-8 where he’d have a legit chance in the playoffs. He will need a Cup or money.

Yeah I’m passing if that’s the number though

 

[Rasp]

Yeah I’m passing if that’s the number though

What are you spending the money on instead? We waste so much spendable cap space every year by not using it.

 

[Static]

Yeah I’m passing if that’s the number though

Why?