Speculation: 2023-24 Free Agency/Trade Thread II

[DuckDuckGetz]

Based on this thread I have a feeling that we are going to be wildly disappointed with our acquisitions this year.

We could acquire McDavid for a 6th and people in this thread would be disappointed it wasn't a 7th lol

 

[KickHisAssZegrass]

We could acquire McDavid for a 6th and people in this thread would be disappointed it wasn't a 7th lol

If they're accepting a 6th for him surely we could hold off for just a 7th.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Eh maybe not arvidsson specifically but they def missed the scoring punch they thought they’d have from him.

Regardless it’s pretty tight…. Maybe they can make it work I guess we’ll see

Roy led the team in blocks and 2nd in hits, plays over 20 mins a game, +21 rating, and can chip in some points (25 points this season). All those reasons why he'd be good in a Ducks uni is the same reason why the Kings should re-sign him. We should know better in giving away/gave away top-4 D-men. lol

If anything, they gotta wonder why they have two magicians on the team in Fiala and PLD b/c both disappeared in the playoffs... Well, PLD wasn't much during the reg season.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

If they're accepting a 6th for him surely we could hold off for just a 7th.

Classic Verbeek mismanagement!

 

[70sSanO]

Classic Verbeek mismanagement!

Biggest problem will be re-signing him to a 6 year deal. He’ll probably want 8.

I guess we could move him to Boston for Frederick, Heinen, a first, and a couple seconds.

John

 

[duxfan1101]

Here is a useful graphic on DeMelo’s strengths and weaknesses.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Don't love that a 31-year-old wants a longer term deal, but I guess he's not going to come out and say he only wants to sign for 2 years or something

 

[robbieboy3686]

Don't love that a 31-year-old wants a longer term deal, but I guess he's not going to come out and say he only wants to sign for 2 years or something

He’s to old its not happening. We have our eyes on age appropriate

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Of course he wants a longer term deal. What 31 Y/O doesn't? The question is how far will anyone go in their offer. He will probably take the deal with the most total dollars, especially if the $$ is mostly paid in the earlier years.

 

[gilfaizon]

That Winnipeg system brings pause to my interest in DeMelo. I think i'd prefer other options over him. Pesce the crown jewel, Roy brings more offense and Walker would be my preferred "more realistic" target.

 

[DavidBL]

Longer term deal is relative term. It could just mean 4+ years or it could be 6+ years. :/

 

[GermanRocket7]

Wild idea that came across my mind: would you trade Gibson+ for Saros?

Saros has only one year left, so it's a gamble. He's a tad cheaper than Gibson, though, and far from wash up. Nashville will have to find a new goalie next summer anyway, as Saros allegedly won't re-sign with Nashville and they will get into rebuild mode pretty soon, which means tearing down team first to get good prospects. We're two steps ahead of that and could offer Saros the exact money Gibson has, plus the prospect of having meaningful seasons in contention from, say, 2026 onwards.

 

[Dryish]

Wild idea that came across my mind: would you trade Gibson+ for Saros?

Saros has only one year left, so it's a gamble. He's a tad cheaper than Gibson, though, and far from wash up. Nashville will have to find a new goalie next summer anyway, as Saros allegedly won't re-sign with Nashville and they will get into rebuild mode pretty soon, which means tearing down team first to get good prospects. We're two steps ahead of that and could offer Saros the exact money Gibson has, plus the prospect of having meaningful seasons in contention from, say, 2026 onwards.

Why? Our goalie situation is pretty good even without Gibson. I do like Saros, but it's not like we're struggling because our goalies aren't good enough.

 

[duxfan1101]

Wild idea that came across my mind: would you trade Gibson+ for Saros?

Saros has only one year left, so it's a gamble. He's a tad cheaper than Gibson, though, and far from wash up. Nashville will have to find a new goalie next summer anyway, as Saros allegedly won't re-sign with Nashville and they will get into rebuild mode pretty soon, which means tearing down team first to get good prospects. We're two steps ahead of that and could offer Saros the exact money Gibson has, plus the prospect of having meaningful seasons in contention from, say, 2026 onwards.

Firstly, we would have to add quite a bit to Gibson to make that happen. Definitely not worth it for a guy who might not even want to stay here. Secondly, the reason they would even entertain trading Saros is because they have Askarov coming in, and Gibson would just block him for even longer.

 

[70sSanO]

I’d trade Gibson for free Chick-fil-A.

Unfortunately I would probably have to settle for something from Banquet.

John

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Gibson + oilers 1st
For
Husso + wings 1st

 

[AngelDuck]

Gibson isn’t going anywhere this upcoming season but will be bought out next summer IMO

 

[robbieboy3686]

Gibson isn’t going anywhere this upcoming season but will be bought out next summer IMO

Same with Fowler, we probably drop Fowler down to a 2nd/3rd pairing and hope he regains his trade value a little. Try and trade him next off season. If not we buy him out also

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

I give it 50/30/20 odds that Gibby stays through his contract/plays well enough this upcoming season to get traded/gets bought out, respectively.

I give it a 3-5% chance that Cam is bought out or traded unless he himself demands it.

There's no way Pat is going to waste ~$3mil of dead space during 3 key years for a player that the org currently trusts to play 25 minutes a night. It's just not happening.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I'd speculate that Cam finishes his contract here with a possible TDL deal in his last year. Gibby I'd say is 100% not finishing his contract here unless getting bought out counts as finishing his contract. But I see no buyout sooner than next summer if then. With an even higher cap next summer maybe somebody takes a chance on him at 50% for 2 more years without adding any sweeteners.

 

[70sSanO]

So is Laine on anyone’s radar. Probably on Toronto’s, but do we take a chance if we can move some pieces.

I’m guessing Edmonton’s 1st and Gibson would be a good move, but that is probably not getting traction with Columbus.

John

 

[DavidBL]

So is Laine on anyone’s radar. Probably on Toronto’s, but do we take a chance if we can move some pieces.

I’m guessing Edmonton’s 1st and Gibson would be a good move, but that is probably not getting traction with Columbus.

John

I've thought about it. There are a lot of questions regarding him. Cost to acquire, why is he in the PAP and could it be something that could recur, is he committed to playing a 200 ft game? I honestly don't know what's going on with him so I think it's really hard to gauge interest.

 

[dracom]

can we please just make a trade for a proven player that doesn't need to be fixed or changed? can't we just get a player that's just good?

 

[70sSanO]

can we please just make a trade for a proven player that doesn't need to be fixed or changed? can't we just get a player that's just good?

We can. We just have to find the player that will be good when we are and not have to give up too many assets.

It is a delicate situation as there are probably a number of overpaid wingers that were considered a good choice at one time.

John

 

[Gliff]

Imagine buying out Gibson or Fowler with 1 year left when they can actually get traded with retained salary or at the deadline…