Speculation: 2023-2024 General Lightning Discussion - Thread title week to week on IR

[RussianGuyovich]

i mean, ...i care about syracuse winning. a winning formula in the minors cultivates a winning development program for player growth and experience in the postseason. not to mention veteran leadership as well as mentoring.

why wouldn't we want syracuse to win? who's spot is he taking up? super weird take.

 

[DFC]

i mean, ...i care about syracuse winning. a winning formula in the minors cultivates a winning development program for player growth and experience in the postseason. not to mention veteran leadership as well as mentoring.

why wouldn't we want syracuse to win? who's spot is he taking up? super weird take.

Yeah. I think it's worth more to have a top scorer in Syracuse than a 13th F. He's a.warm body here, easily replaceable. Not so much there.

 

[JFleegs]

There have been countless ahl stars who couldn’t stick in the NHL. Doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve their spot on an AHL squad. It is not a strictly developmental league and a winning culture is huge.

Back in the day I had season tickets to the BSens we loved Denis Hamel, amazing Ahl player, 50 goal scorer, just couldn’t make it in the Nhl. Some guys just have to make a career in the A and help teams win and be a vet presence.

 

[BoltSTH]

NHL scheduling is a joke. Opening night at 5:00 EDT, then the Bolts have 3 day break and then 6 in 8 days, including a road back to back.

 

[These Are The Days]

NHL scheduling is a joke. Opening night at 5:00 EDT, then the Bolts have 3 day break and then 6 in 8 days, including a road back to back.

That will never stop. But they've had like the last 6 months off. They are more than ready to handle it. These last 3-4 years it didn't matter if they had 2 weeks off. They were somehow still always the most tired team in the league

 

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[The Gongshow]

So ABB called up again?
Motte def broke his hand right? I haven't seen any update

 

[Point21]

 

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[Point21]

If Watson gets in the lineup, i would like to see Merela with Paul and Eyssimont. If its BB in the lineup, just keep Merela on the 4th line and BB on 3rd line

 

[OffBy1]

In the first game, Paul got over 6 minutes of PP time vs Cirelli's 1.5 min. Cirelli got 3.5 min of PK time vs Paul's 51 seconds. Given that, I'd expect Paul to be skating with offensive wingers like Hagel and Stamkos, and Cirelli to be skating with Eyssimont and Watson. Cooper often uses the Cirelli line to shut down the opposing team's first line, which Stamkos isn't suited for, and he and Cirelli have displayed 0 chemistry since Cirelli has been on the team. Why continue to pair them together? I'd rather see Stamkos on the third with Paul at this point.

 

[JFleegs]

In the first game, Paul got over 6 minutes of PP time vs Cirelli's 1.5 min. Cirelli got 3.5 min of PK time vs Paul's 51 seconds. Given that, I'd expect Paul to be skating with offensive wingers like Hagel and Stamkos, and Cirelli to be skating with Eyssimont and Watson. Cooper often uses the Cirelli line to shut down the opposing team's first line, which Stamkos isn't suited for, and he and Cirelli have displayed 0 chemistry since Cirelli has been on the team. Why continue to pair them together? I'd rather see Stamkos on the third with Paul at this point.

You are right Paul and Cirelli switched makes sense

 

[DFC]

In the first game, Paul got over 6 minutes of PP time vs Cirelli's 1.5 min. Cirelli got 3.5 min of PK time vs Paul's 51 seconds. Given that, I'd expect Paul to be skating with offensive wingers like Hagel and Stamkos, and Cirelli to be skating with Eyssimont and Watson. Cooper often uses the Cirelli line to shut down the opposing team's first line, which Stamkos isn't suited for, and he and Cirelli have displayed 0 chemistry since Cirelli has been on the team. Why continue to pair them together? I'd rather see Stamkos on the third with Paul at this point.

I dont think we will see a true shutdown line until playoff time, so I wouldn't bet on it. Paul is simply in Killer's place on the PP but with a different role.

I think you're reading too much into it. At some point we might see Paul bumped into more of an ES scoring role, but Coop has to find Cirelli's minutes somewhere for now.

 

[The Gongshow]

Cirelli and Stamkos have never worked and will continue not to work. Two completely different games that don't mix well.

Stamkos needs a playmaker center/Winger while he looks for open space and is the trigger man.
Cirelli is a defensive specialist with decent speed but not great playmaking. Good grinder and isn't affraid to crash the net.

Both have their functions, Idk why Coop keeps going back to it

 

[DFC]

Cirelli and Stamkos have never worked and will continue not to work. Two completely different games that don't mix well.

Stamkos needs a playmaker center/Winger while he looks for open space and is the trigger man.
Cirelli is a defensive specialist with decent speed but not great playmaking. Good grinder and isn't affraid to crash the net.

Both have their functions, Idk why Coop keeps going back to it

I think it's because he wants both in the top six. Stamkos works best with Point and Kucherov, but who wouldn't?

I agree, dont get me wrong. I'd rather see a bit of scoring throughout the line up. Point and Kucherov have been our most consistent duo, whereas Stamkos/Kuch often drift into "too cute" territory. So unless Coop wants to drop either Stamkos or Cirelli out of the top six, it gets pretty hard to play them apart.

I love depth. But Coop does seem to move guys up and down the lineup based on their value to the team. That's also why it's been pretty hard for young players to crack the top six without an injury clearing the way.

 

[Sky04]

We did let him go elsewhere. That's what waivers are. Nobody wanted him. For free.

No, they tried to sneak him through waivers quietly... if they wanted to let someone pick him up then they would've sent him down during before teams locked up their rosters.

 

[bov]

No, they tried to sneak him through waivers quietly... if they wanted to let someone pick him up then they would've sent him down during before teams locked up their rosters.

He has been exposed to waivers multiple times, there's nothing sneaky going on at all. If an NHL team thought he was worth having, they'd pick him up, simple as that. Acting like ABB is some kind of hostage in the organization is absurd.

 

[Point21]

 

[LightningStrikes]

Vas doesn’t look so injured to me!

 

[The Gongshow]

Glad JBB prioritized Tanner "4th line pylon, 10 minutes a night, doesn't even fight or hit now" Jeannot over Steven Stamkos

 

[Todd1a]

You got to bite the bullet and trade for someone like

PETR MRÁZEK​

Have the hawks retain 50 percent of the money and give them Myers, tomkins and a 2nd rounder. Waive ABB and JO Jo when vasy comes back . You can’t run these goalies out there another 20 games. 1st game we won JO Jo allowed 3 goals last night we scored 4 goals and lost and then tomkins allows 4 goals tonight. You’re not going to win nhl game’s allowing 3-4 goals per game that’s just impossible to overcome.

 

[Sky04]

You got to bite the bullet and trade for someone like

PETR MRÁZEK​

Have the hawks retain 50 percent of the money and give them Myers, tomkins and a 2nd rounder. Waive ABB and JO Jo when vasy comes back . You can’t run these goalies out there another 20 games. 1st game we won JO Jo allowed 3 goals last night we scored 4 goals and lost and then tomkins allows 4 goals tonight. You’re not going to win nhl game’s allowing 3-4 goals per game that’s just impossible to overcome.

Trading for goalies isn't going to solve the problem.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Second game in a row that we allow almost 40 shots, I too have a feeling that the goalie is not the problem.

 

[FinnLightning26]

You could have Vasy back there with this kind of defense and it wouldn't make much of a difference.

 

[Todd1a]

Trading for goalies isn't going to solve the problem.

You can’t keep icing echl goalies behind this defense and you can’t solve the defense problem this year