Speculation: 2023-2024 General Lightning Discussion - Thread title week to week on IR

[These Are The Days]

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[Zwui21]

Am I wrong or the Hagel - Cirelli - Stammer combo is something never tried before?

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Am I wrong or the Hagel - Cirelli - Stammer combo is something never tried before?

Yeah that's new. Kind of interesting, but Cirelli and Stammer hasn't worked, never worked, stop trying to make it work.

 

[Felonious Python]

Yeah that's new. Kind of interesting, but Cirelli and Stammer hasn't worked, never worked, stop trying to make it work.

Let them cook.

 

[The Gongshow]

So Motte def broke his hand then eh? The inevitable tampa injuries starting real early


I like the idea of Hagel and Stamkos together but Cirelli/Stamkos has never worked. Throw Paul in there and we're really cooking!! Not a fan of Sheary on the top line either tbh

Jeannot - Point - Kuch
Hagel - Paul - Stamkos
Sheary - Cirelli - Essy
Watson - Glendening - rookie

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

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Well, for starters, Florida panthers aren't classified as "big cats".

Big cat:

Not-so-big cat:

 

[These Are The Days]

Well, for starters, Florida panthers aren't classified as "big cats".

Big cat:

Not-so-big cat:

You are indeed correct. I'm not saying the joke went over your head as much as people who know that will get the joke. It was all I could come up with at the time

I'm really not good at this lol

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

You are indeed correct. I'm not saying the joke went over your head as much as people who know that will get the joke. It was all I could come up with at the time

I'm really not good at this lol

I responded to this before I fully comprehended your post...in any case, yeah, anytime I respond with that joke about panthers and big cats, it's mostly to make fun of Florida panthers being relatively puny-looking cats compared to teams named after tigers and lions, haha.

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[JTBF81]

Neither Jeannot nor Sheary seem like a good fit at all for line 1, but I guess Sheary is the lesser of the bad options if he refuses to go with what's worked well(Hagel-Point-Kuch).
Sheary-Point-Kuch
Stamkos-Paul-ABB
Hagel-Cirelli-Eyssimont
Jeannot-Glendening-Merela
Watson
Keep the round peg/square hole combo of Stamkos/Cirelli away from each other and balance the scoring more optimally across three lines. If ABB isn't a part of the team, try one of Eyssimont or Jeannot at 2RW in this configuration.

 

[DFC]

...The team's "new" defensive mindset? Excuse me?

 

[RussianGuyovich]

...The team's "new" defensive mindset? Excuse me?

yeah, this might explain why so many of the guys seemed lost last night

 

[LightningStrikes]

Saw a quote from Sergachev I think it was a couple days back during camp talking about “the new system” and getting used to it. But maybe he was just referring to the new guys.

 

[DFC]

yeah, this might explain why so many of the guys seemed lost last night

I'm up for it if it's similar to the old system but keeps us healthy

 

[RussianGuyovich]

I'm up for it if it's similar to the old system but keeps us healthy

The old system was hybrid, and more of a man coverage, this is more zone. It is perhaps because we lost a lot of experience in the backend.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Bogo is back.

 

[bov]

I guess it all worked out.

 

[DMB06]

Did Cooper not say ABB has proven all he can in Syracuse? It seems pretty clear we don't believe he's an NHL player. Either give him minutes or let him go elsewhere, it's a bit silly at this point.

 

[JTBF81]

Did Cooper not say ABB has proven all he can in Syracuse? It seems pretty clear we don't believe he's an NHL player. Either give him minutes or let him go elsewhere, it's a bit silly at this point.

Agreed, and while he likely ends up back in Tampa soon enough(as Motte is made of glass and probabaly already has a busted hand), there's no reason for him to give a ****.anymore at the AHL level. What's the reasoning now from his pov? He's been the #2 point scorer in the AHL over the last 3 or 4 years, and he's seen no promotion. If he doesn't get the call up, no doubt he'll go through the motions for Syracuse, and then as soon as he can, get out of this organization for either another NHL team or one of the KHL.

 

[bov]

The guy has his family rooted in Syracuse iirc, he may be OK with staying put in a good organization for now. Since he's on a 1 way I believe he's making NHL money regardless?

 

[Hoek]

Did Cooper not say ABB has proven all he can in Syracuse? It seems pretty clear we don't believe he's an NHL player. Either give him minutes or let him go elsewhere, it's a bit silly at this point.

We did let him go elsewhere. That's what waivers are. Nobody wanted him. For free.

 

[JFleegs]

We did let him go elsewhere. That's what waivers are. Nobody wanted him. For free.

exactly if someone would have wanted him they would have claimed him.

 

[Felonious Python]

The old system was hybrid, and more of a man coverage, this is more zone. It is perhaps because we lost a lot of experience in the backend.

I posted about this in the old thread. #835

Speculation: - 2023 Off-Season Thread II: We're all gonna die edition

staff also hasn't said anything? this board is going to do a complete 180° again if mers becomes the forechecking, grinder, non-scorer that cooper has been adept at making others become.

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I don't see the change stemming from roster turnover. Shots from far away just don't convert into goals very often.

 

[JTBF81]

As no doubt Tampa banked on, most teams weren't likely to claim ABB right at the start of tbe season, as rosters are pretty locked in atm and teams are unlikely to add someone barring a rash of injuries. Regardless, he's played well enough to be in a professional league(not the AHL), and no doubt he'll be in one either in the U.S. or in Europe, after this season(if he doesn't get a chance this year in Tampa, which he probabaly does).

 

[DMB06]

We did let him go elsewhere. That's what waivers are. Nobody wanted him. For free.

Right. Which makes it more ridiculous that we keep bringing him back. We keep telling ourselves he's going to one day make the leap, but read your post again and tell me that's likely to happen. If you care about Syracuse winning then I guess it's better to have him on the team than not, but as for the development aspect it appears he's just eating minutes that can go to someone else that hasn't maxed out their potential.

He has, repeatedly, been given a fair chance to make the roster and has not, perhaps it's time to move on.