Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread Part II
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Hockey Duckie
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Hopefully just a sprained finger or bruised rib or something like that.
A week or two doesn’t seem to be too serious, Ducks season over anyway but Hopefully he can get a nice long break and be ready in September.
dracom
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why would Helleson not play...he looked just fine, it's the last game of the year. there's no good reason unless he got hurt or something
Agreed… smart team would bench Cam and get him on a cardio regiment (dude needs to play at 200 not 215). Anyone remotely hurt should sit and let our prospects on a game that we have no reason to want to win. Mind as well have Herbert or Hayward play a game in goal and be the oldest goalie to play.
Hockey Duckie
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Helly's been playing sheltered minutes in the past two games, averaging 13 minutes. Lacombe played 18:24 in his first game, third most among D-men. Eakins probably wants a more seasoned D in White back in against the Kings. Also, White's signed next season and maybe a preview if he can play with LaCombe?
dracom
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i mean, i go back to my original statement, it's the last game of the season in a meaningless game. not letting the rookie get to play that so colton white can play would be absolutely stupid.
Hockey Duckie
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This isn't my opinion, but my guess as to why Eakins is contemplating sitting out Helleson.
I think it's more of sheltering the kid in this rivalry game. While the game is meaningless for us fans, it can be brutal on the players, especially one we've been sheltering. We may need more minutes played than the 13 minutes of Helly being sheltered. There might not be room/time for sheltering in this game.
We're supposed to set the kids up to succeed, not fail.
WhatTheDuck
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Due to this being the internet and the lack of sarcastic emoji usage, I'm having trouble determining whether you serious regarding the guy who just set the NHL record for ice time in a game, needing a cardio regiment.
Hockey Duckie
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I think using Herbert or Hazy as our goalie kinda sets the tone of it being very sarcastic.
Not sure the coaching decision to hold out Helleson, but after a couple of games, don’t see him staying in the AHL too much longer. Yeah it’s a small sample size but still. Really like to see him in the season finale.
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Hockey Duckie
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I wonder if Harrington is healthy enough to go, then that would put Helleson on the outside looking in.
The Midnight Burrito
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I'm confused. Why? He's already in Anaheim...
Just after last nights comments that Eakins apparently wasn't sure about Helly playing, I got scared he's sent down but yes, I've no idea what that message says, ha
The Midnight Burrito
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Drew Helleson Transactions - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
NHL player transactions history including draft, signings, waivers, and more
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What that means for tonight or whether it has something to do with Eakins's uncertainty, I don't know. But it seems like it could.
Aha, yes, that makes sense now. Thank you for helping me to clear that up. It would make sense that they'll do this if he will play but what do I know.From his transaction page, it looks like he was loaned on an emergency basis to ANA on 4/9, and then placed on the NHL roster (as opposed, I assume, to being returned to SD) once the emergency loan ended on 4/12.Drew Helleson Transactions - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
NHL player transactions history including draft, signings, waivers, and more
What that means for tonight or whether it has something to do with Eakins's uncertainty, I don't know. But it seems like it could.
GreatBear
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I have no idea if this helps, but it seems to indicate that an emergency recall can be made if the Ducks fall below six healthy defensemen. When Harrington went down, the Ducks were down to five and Helleson could be brought up on an emergency basis. With LaCombe being signed, the Ducks were back to six healthy defensemen, and thus Helleson would need to be sent back to San Diego. Now he has been promoted, so he can stay in Anaheim for the rest of the season, all one game of it.
13.12 Transfers To/From Minors.
(m) Emergency Recall.
(i) A Player on Loan to a club of any league affiliated with the League may be Recalled from such Loan under emergency conditions at any time for the duration of the emergency only following which he must be returned promptly to the club from which he was Recalled.
(ii) Emergency conditions shall be established when the playing strength of the Loaning Club, by reason of incapacitating injury or illness or by League suspension to its Players is reduced below the level of two (2) goalkeepers, six (6) defensemen and twelve (12) forwards. Proof of the existence of the emergency conditions including the incapacity shall be furnished to the Commissioner of the League upon request made by him.
(iii) For the purpose of establishing the existence of emergency conditions at any time, to support the Recall of a Player for participation in any Playoff Game, it shall be deemed that the Player(s) on Loan following 3:00 p.m. New York time of the fortieth (40th) day immediately preceding the last day of the Regular Season are continuing on Loan for the remainder of the season notwithstanding that the Loaned club(s) may have been eliminated from further play for the season.
13.12 Transfers To/From Minors.
(m) Emergency Recall.
(i) A Player on Loan to a club of any league affiliated with the League may be Recalled from such Loan under emergency conditions at any time for the duration of the emergency only following which he must be returned promptly to the club from which he was Recalled.
(ii) Emergency conditions shall be established when the playing strength of the Loaning Club, by reason of incapacitating injury or illness or by League suspension to its Players is reduced below the level of two (2) goalkeepers, six (6) defensemen and twelve (12) forwards. Proof of the existence of the emergency conditions including the incapacity shall be furnished to the Commissioner of the League upon request made by him.
(iii) For the purpose of establishing the existence of emergency conditions at any time, to support the Recall of a Player for participation in any Playoff Game, it shall be deemed that the Player(s) on Loan following 3:00 p.m. New York time of the fortieth (40th) day immediately preceding the last day of the Regular Season are continuing on Loan for the remainder of the season notwithstanding that the Loaned club(s) may have been eliminated from further play for the season.
WhatTheDuck
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It really is quite a minefield, especially for the teams right up against the cap. But that does seem to provide clarity on the Helleson front. Gotta have both those young D in the lineup for this final game.
The Midnight Burrito
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Seems like the decision was whether to send him down or keep him since Harrington was healthy, and they chose to keep him. That seems to bode pretty well for his chances of playing? But maybe they're just keeping him because SD doesn't play for a while.
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