2022-23 Roster Discussion

[scelaton]

Powerplays don't matter? Penalties don't matter? 10 extra even strength points per season don't matter?

Sometimes trying to make these simple, obvious points is, well, pointless.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

I get the sense that Ehlers and Wheeler would like to play together, the way the team is constructed. Both had to rehab from injury together. In a way they offset each other, speed with size. If Namestnikov can play a game that complements them, maybe the Jets find a way to win without Dubois. Even put him on the 4th line like Maurice did in the playoffs in 2021. To push him.

Ehlers shot differentials with his most common linemate's:

1) 64% Corsi playing RW with Connor & Dubois
2) 62% Corsi playing LW with Wheeler & Dubois
3) 55% Corsi playing RW with Connor & Scheifele
4) 50% Corsi playing LW with Wheeler & Scheifele

Also of note is that every one of Ehlers linemates has a better Corsi% with him than away from him.

 

[Jack7222]

Ehlers shot differentials with his most common linemate's:

1) 64% Corsi playing RW with Connor & Dubois
2) 62% Corsi playing LW with Wheeler & Dubois
3) 55% Corsi playing RW with Connor & Scheifele
4) 50% Corsi playing LW with Wheeler & Scheifele

Also of note is that every one of Ehlers linemates has a better Corsi% with him than away from him.

Ehlers really hard to play with... almost as hard as playing without him lol

 

[EXTRAS]

What do you guys see as Barron's upside?

 

[tbcwpg]

What do you guys see as Barron's upside?

About where he is now, 3rd line.

 

[Adam da bomb]

About where he is now, 3rd line.

But a really good 3rd liner.

 

[Aggie204]

But a really good 3rd liner.

Wouldn’t be surprised if another team scooped him up and overpaid when he goes into UFA status

 

[KingBogo]

Wouldn’t be surprised if another team scooped him up and overpaid when he goes into UFA status

That won’t be for awhile. Barron is still only on the final year of his ELC as and will be a RFA after this season.

 

[DRW204]

idk why there was so much uproar with namestnikov acquisition? i think he's been solid, and has actually filled in v nicely as a 2C in the FLA trip. i don't think he's a viable season-long option as 2C/top-6er, however he's filled in there nicely for us, & when in TB. at the minimum id say he's an average to above-average bottom-6er for us, and given he can mesh well with skilled players is another boon for us. i don't think we had that if we had a top-6c injury this year.

 

[JetsUK]

idk why there was so much uproar with namestnikov acquisition? i think he's been solid, and has actually filled in v nicely as a 2C in the FLA trip. i don't think he's a viable season-long option as 2C/top-6er, however he's filled in there nicely for us, & when in TB. at the minimum id say he's an average to above-average bottom-6er for us, and given he can mesh well with skilled players is another boon for us. i don't think we had that if we had a top-6c injury this year.

I think he’s looked great. Smart, efficient player who as you note seems to be able to play anywhere and with anyone.

A true utility player.

If I’m Chevy I’m taking some of the savings from the Pionk buyout / trade and using it on a short term deal for Names.

 

[DRW204]

I think he’s looked great. Smart, efficient player who as you note seems to be able to play anywhere and with anyone.

A true utility player.

If I’m Chevy I’m taking some of the savings from the Pionk buyout / trade and using it on a short term deal for Names.

not sure how much they're hurting for cap-space next year. and what gives you the impression they will move Pionk? and replace with who?

 

[10Ducky10]

The lineup I would start againts the Prunes...

Nino Scheif Ehlers
KC Dubois Wheeler
Barron Names Apples
Gus Lowry Stenlund

JMo DD
Samberg Schmidt
Dillon Pionk (somewhay sheltered)

Helle

 

[jetsforever]

New addition?

 

[JetsUK]

New addition?

He could fling some nice passes tape to tape. And could help inaugurate the Rogers / Wheeler/ Stenlund Clone Line.

 

[Buffdog]

New addition?

He sbould be run out of town like that other anti-vaxxer, Statsny

 

[DRW204]

New addition?

only if we sign cobb, lazard, lewis as linemates

 

[DRW204]

since we do not really have an OFFENSE THREAD

for reference - sh% across the NHL is average of 10.1%

game-5 and onward is a previous 5-game average

similarly if you're an xGF follower. orange above blue is v good.

 

[KingBogo]

since we do not really have an OFFENSE THREAD

for reference - sh% across the NHL is average of 10.1%

game-5 and onward is a previous 5-game average

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similarly if you're an xGF follower. orange above blue is v good.

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Interesting post, so our shooting % is way below league average the last 1/3 of the season or so and our xGF is way above our actual goals. Seems to me if we can get this back in line and Helly gets hot we may be a team that can surprise in the playoffs.

 

[WolfHouse]

Interesting post, so our shooting % is way below league average the last 1/3 of the season or so and our xGF is way above our actual goals. Seems to me if we can get this back in line and Helly gets hot we may be a team that can surprise in the playoffs.

How do you see it getting back in line? Its not puck luck that has the Jets down... its the fact that we shoot from the perimeter and don't crash the net - hard to believe that this team will suddenly start doing that

 

[Orrrules]

They won't

 

[DRW204]

How do you see it getting back in line? Its not puck luck that has the Jets down... its the fact that we shoot from the perimeter and don't crash the net - hard to believe that this team will suddenly start doing that

1/27 on the pp or some shit like that right? It just can't be this bad

 

[voyageur]

This is what I called for 2 games ago, so I am interested to see if two disinterested players together can generate offense in some kind of reverse polarity.

I am surprised that a losing lineup has become so static though.

Lines and D pairs:

Connor-Dubois-Scheifele
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Wheeler
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Stenlund-Maenalanen
Kuhlman-Gustafsson-Jonsson-Fjallby

Morrissey-DeMelo
Dillon-Pionk
Samberg-Schmidt
Stanley-Capobianco

Hellebuyck
Rittich

 

[DRW204]

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

The last thing any team would want is having someone who is gung-ho sharing that enthusiasm with the media.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Line 1 could be tremendous or a huge disaster

Line 2 was looking good together on the Florida trip.

Nino with Lowry is ok

4th line is irrelevant