GDT: 2021 Stanley Cup Playoffs (General Talk) II

[The Abusement Park]

“I wish NHL players showed more personality”

*NHL player shows personality

“What a dick”

 

[Balthazar]

A big f*** you to the spirit of the salary cap.

FTFY

 

[Avsboy]

As long as Kuch is wearing a shirt...

 

[UncleRisto]

“I wish NHL players showed more personality"

I for one wish NHL players showed less personality.

Come out and purposely do a robot voice.

 

[Grigowski]

“I wish NHL players showed more personality”

*NHL player shows personality

“What a dick”

There is a difference between showing personality and being a douchebag.

Calling MAF "that guy from Vegas that didn´t deserve the Vezina" is classless. And i don´t think that sits well with other teams either..... Prepare for another LTIR, Mr. Kucherov. But this time for real.

I don´t know, but another fanbase would be the last thing that comes to my mind the moment i win the Stanley Cup.

 

[dahrougem2]

I for one wish NHL players showed less personality.

Come out and purposely do a robot voice.

Now we need this to happen. And it needs to be Connor McDavid.

 

[Chiarelli]

Now we need this to happen. And it needs to be Connor McDavid.

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto

 

[Metallo]

I for one wish NHL players showed less personality.

Come out and purposely do a robot voice.

Beat writter: Can you walk us through your OT goal.
Player: 011100110101000100111010101101100100101001011011100100100110101100101010110110010101011000111010011100101110010110

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I’ve witnessed the mug in worse shape than that in person lol.

 

[The Abusement Park]

People are going to lose their mind over that picture when far worse has been done lol.

 

[henchman21]

People are going to lose their mind over that picture when far worse has been done lol.

Like getting thrown off a member of pantera’s house

 

[The Abusement Park]

Like getting thrown off a member of pantera’s house

Or getting forgotten on the side of the road

 

[Balthazar]

That's the replica anyway isn't it?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Dave Bolland told a story on a podcast about how they dropped it off a rooftop and it got wedged between two buildings lol.

 

[Foppa2118]

It definitely doesn't work that way. Some teams are cup contenders for a couple of seasons tops and fall off immediately after their short window. You can't just look at a teams record after their cup run and determine if they were legit.

The Canucks were one of the best in the league for a few years and lost game 7 to Boston while being absolutely demolished by injuries all series. They were not built for long-term success, but were a great team during their window.

You can absolutely judge a team based on a larger sample than one year.

I find it interesting that the whole board seemingly thinks the Avs were paper champions this year with their President's trophy and don't even deserve to be called one of the Cup favorites, but when the Canucks had one deep run, surrounded by a bunch of 1st and 2nd round exits where they lost three games in a row every year to lose series they were never really close to winning, they were still legit top contenders for like 5+ years?

 

[The Abusement Park]

Dave Bolland told a story on a podcast about how they dropped it off a rooftop and it got wedged between two buildings lol.

And this is only stuff that has made it to the public

 

[The Abusement Park]

You can absolutely judge a team based on a larger sample than one year.

I find it interesting that the whole board seemingly thinks the Avs were paper champions this year with their President's trophy and don't even deserve to be called one of the Cup favorites, but when the Canucks had one deep run, surrounded by a bunch of 1st and 2nd round exits where they lost three games in a row every year to lose series they were never really close to winning, they were still legit top contenders for like 5+ years?

So the Avs aren’t contenders then?

 

[Foppa2118]

So the Avs aren’t contenders then?

My opinion is based on their record outside of 2011. If the Avs only end up having one deep run and never win the Cup in like a 10+ year span, then I'll view them the same way.

As of now, they're only a couple years into being "contenders."

 

[The Abusement Park]

But being a contender isn’t based on hindsight? @Foppa2118

 

[Foppa2118]

But being a contender isn’t based on hindsight?

Not sure if that's a statement or a question, but I think you have to use hindsight to determine whether a team was overrated or not for like a 5-10 year span.

That's my claim about Vancouver, based on their results outside of 2011, and how they were never close to winning those series.

Everyone is using hindsight to say the Avs weren't true contenders this year, even though I don't agree with that.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Not sure if that's a statement or a question, but I think you have to use hindsight to determine whether a team was overrated or not for like a 5-10 year span.

That's my claim about Vancouver, based on their results outside of 2011, and how they were never close to winning those series.

Everyone is using hindsight to say the Avs weren't true contenders this year, even though I don't agree with that.

If you’re winning or competing for presidents trophies your team is a contender. I don’t see how that wouldn’t be the case.

 

[Foppa2118]

If you’re winning or competing for presidents trophies your team is a contender. I don’t see how that wouldn’t be the case.

I think it's fair to say that for that one year a team wins or competes for the President's trophy, but to really evaluate how good a team is, I think you have to view it in a 3-5 year span, because we've seen so many teams over the years have one and done seasons.

That 2013-14 Avalanche team was a perfect example.

They finished 2nd in the west and 3rd overall, but in reality that was a flukey year. They were not a good team. They had a really bad defense, Varly covered up for and bailed out their mistakes pretty much the whole season, and the whole team was riding the motivational wave of Roy's first year.

At the time, we all thought that Avalanche team was a contender. But they weren't. And the years surrounding that season proved it.

The Canucks weren't as bad as that Avalanche team, but I still maintain they were always overrated. They had some flash but they didn't have the kind of complete team that could go through four rounds in the playoffs to win it all, and that showed when they continually lost three games in a row to get eliminated in series they weren't close to winning.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I think it's fair to say that for that one year a team wins or competes for the President's trophy, but to really evaluate how good a team is, I think you have to view it in a 3-5 year span, because we've seen so many teams over the years have one and done seasons.

That 2013-14 Avalanche team was a perfect example.

They finished 2nd in the west and 3rd overall, but in reality that was a flukey year. They were not a good team. They had a really bad defense, Varly covered up for and bailed out their mistakes pretty much the whole season, and the whole team was riding the motivational wave of Roy's first year.

At the time, we all thought that Avalanche team was a contender. But they weren't. And the years surrounding that season proved it.

The Canucks weren't as bad as that Avalanche team, but I still maintain they were always overrated. They had some flash but they didn't have the kind of complete team that could go through four rounds in the playoffs to win it all, and that showed when they continually lost three games in a row to get eliminated in series they weren't close to winning.

I mean one year wonders are different. But that canucks team had 5 consecutive 100pt seasons and what would’ve been 6 if it was a full season, that’s 100% a team that is good enough to be a contender.

 

[Foppa2118]

I mean one year wonders are different. But that canucks team had 5 consecutive 100pt seasons and what would’ve been 6 if it was a full season, that’s 100% a team that is good enough to be a contender.

Maybe it's semantics, but I'm specifically saying they were overrated.

I think it's hard to have an objective category for "contenders" when results and hindsight come into play. The term contender is more subjective than it's given credit for.

So that's why I've been sticking to calling them "overrated." I just never thought they had a team that could win the Cup, and I'm a broken record at this point, but I think their results in the years surrounding 2011 prove that.

Also to clarify again, I don't put them in the same category as the other cinderella teams, which was the main point of my original post.