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Rschmitz

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Goodbye Gourde :puppy:

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Rschmitz

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Out of curiosity, why would losing Gourde be better than losing Palat, TyJo or Killorn?

Kinda devastating to the offense losing our entire 3rd line. Especially when we have Killorn and Cirelli on our 2nd line. Those two should be third liners anyway.

I wouldn't call it better, but it definitely gives us more flexibility since Gourde has the NTC.
 

Flat Ronnie

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If we dump Gourde + one of Palat/TyJo/Killorn, how much space do we have after that?
 

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Out of curiosity, why would losing Gourde be better than losing Palat, TyJo or Killorn?

Kinda devastating to the offense losing our entire 3rd line. Especially when we have Killorn and Cirelli on our 2nd line. Those two should be third liners anyway.

I'm thinking from a cap flexibility standpoint, because realistically we aren't keeping Palat/Killorn/Gourde long term anyways.

Gourde is 29, has 4 more years left on his deal, has a full NTC this summer and a 22-team NTC the remaining years. I think his game will age gracefully because of how great of shape he's in, but you never really know how it will look in 2/3 years. Palat and Killorn are more liquid and will yield assets.

I'm with you that losing Gourde absolutely sucks from a competitive standpoint. We're losing our entire third line, which is what put us over the top. But I think we're looking at a retool no matter what, so asset management also needs to be considered.
 
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Rschmitz

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We can add a couple good piece with that. Especially some vets that want to cup chase.

Who are some guys that would fit these forward holes? Think Parise would be good?

Would love Parise, but I also think we have some really good options in Syracuse. Katchouk will be a new fan favorite
 

Vasilevskiy

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If they take Gourde, we replace him with TJ (Yes... I know...), then trade Palat for a 1st or picks + prospect and use our AHL guys. It's a blow to lose the 3rd line but life's not easy
 
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Rschmitz

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If they take Gourde, we replace him with TJ (Yes... I know...), then trade Palat for a 1st or picks + prospect and use our AHL guys. It's a blow to lose the 3rd line but life's not easy


As much flack as you will probably get for this blasphemous idea, I agree with you.
 
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Flat Ronnie

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I'm thinking from a cap flexibility standpoint, because realistically we aren't keeping Palat/Killorn/Gourde long term anyways.

Gourde is 29, has 4 more years left on his deal, has a full NTC this summer and a 22-team NTC the remaining years. I think his game will age gracefully because of how great of shape he's in, but you never really know how it will look in 2/3 years. Palat and Killorn are more liquid and will yield assets.

I'm with you that losing Gourde absolutely sucks from a competitive standpoint. We're losing our entire third line, which is what put us over the top. But I think we're looking at a retool no matter what, so asset management also needs to be considered.
Good info!
 
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Flat Ronnie

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Would love Parise, but I also think we have some really good options in Syracuse. Katchouk will be a new fan favorite
If we're losing our entire 3rd line we're gonna need someone proven. I think we will be looking at dudes getting paid from a buy out that want to win on the cheap.

Those are the guys I want anyway. Vets that are desperate to win.
 

These Are The Days

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If Seattle is going to just pick a player than Seravalli is either full of shit or we have a deal lined up immediately afterwards. I guess we will find out soon

Definitely the latter. Considering the same insider says we are not interested in other trades when called, I think JFBB has some kind of BiG boii deal lined up that's either gonna get us out of cap hell by itself or we've got a deal that will help minimize losses and there's more work to be done after said trade.
 

Rschmitz

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If we're losing our entire 3rd line we're gonna need someone proven. I think we will be looking at dudes getting paid from a buy out that want to win on the cheap.

Agreed, we will definitely add at least one veteran, there are several spots to fill
 

Flat Ronnie

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Agreed, we will definitely add at least one veteran, there are several spots to fill
What does everyone think of a second line of:

Colton - Point - Kucherov
Parise - Cirelli - Stamkos
Killorn - TyJo - Joseph
Maroon - XXX - XXX
 

DMB06

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The Gourde news isn't surprising. My hope for this offseason was to make it into next year with Goodrow, Gourde, and McDonagh still on the roster. So, naturally, at the very start of the process I've been shat on.
 

These Are The Days

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f*** that trade Palat too. He's only got a year left. Johnson is a no brainer. They were probably among the best contracts SFY ever got done but it's time to move on from the expense. We can supplant our losses in free agency with guys looking to win a Cup.


If Killorn and Colton are surviving this then we have our 2nd line intact and a promising young wing who scored the Cup winning goal who can maybe play with Point and Kucherov
 

HoseEmDown

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What does everyone think of a second line of:

Colton - Point - Kucherov
Parise - Cirelli - Stamkos
Killorn - TyJo - Joseph
Maroon - XXX - XXX

f*** that! Parise would be lucky to knock Maroon out of the lineup. He's trash and I rather give that spot to a kid who's busted his ass in Syracuse for the last 3 years.
 

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