Patriots/NFL 2021 Season II: 1-2; Week 4 vs. TB

[Johnnyduke]

Jesus christ can we all move on?

I mean it's not like Tom Brady will be playing at Gillette as a visitor for the first and probably only time...

 

[CDJ]

Lol. We're gonna do this completely false narrative again? Not a single person was calling the Bucs a loaded team when Brady signed. It is 100% revisionist history. People mocked the situation of Brady only being able to attract a couple offers including the lowly Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

they had 2 #1 WR and a strong TE room, then they added AB and Gronk. They were absolutely loaded on offense and that is not revisionist history. Winston didn’t throw for all them yards on accident. The only reason they weren’t a good team is because Winston was good for 3 turnovers a game and it’s hard to win living like that

 

[Troublesome 85]

I mean it's not like Tom Brady will be playing at Gillette as a visitor for the first and probably only time...

then maybe we all should talk about that and not how he left and all the drama?

its tired

 

[Johnnyduke]

then maybe we all should talk about that and not how he left and all the drama?

its tired

Ok so let's talk about how the Pats are gonna get their asses kicked

 

[KrejciMVP]

how come Bill gets a free pass to act like a jerk but not brady?

 

[EverettMike]

He did, absolutely. I can't blame him though. He continually took well below market value and what did it get him? Nothing. To Belichick, he was just another guy.

Literally 3 Super Bowl titles (and 4 trips) in the five seasons before he demanded out.

So, uh, it got him a lot.

 

[Johnnyduke]

they had 2 #1 WR and a strong TE room, then they added AB and Gronk. They were absolutely loaded on offense and that is not revisionist history. Winston didn’t throw for all them yards on accident. The only reason they weren’t a good team is because Winston was good for 3 turnovers a game and it’s hard to win living like that

Weren't Gronk and AB added after Brady signed? The Bucs had two very good WRs but again, not a single person was calling them a loaded team that was just a QB away from contending for a SB. That simply is not true.

 

[Johnnyduke]

how come Bill gets a free pass to act like a jerk but not brady?

Cuz in Bill we trust...Patriots for life kid

 

[Gee Wally]

If you broke up with your partner and were still talking and whining about it a year and a half later, everyone would be telling you you need to move on.

You had some great times together, nothing lasts forever. Just remember those good times.

How long you been here?

We got years to go.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Ok so let's talk about how the Pats are gonna get their asses kicked

I mean I already said they will be 1-4 next week lol

 

[Johnnyduke]

I mean I already said they will be 1-4 next week lol

Gonna get beat so badly they get charged with two Ls

 

[EverettMike]

Gonna get beat so badly they get charged with two Ls

Might have to give back a Super Bowl title by the end of the third quarter.

 

[LSCII]

In the spirit of moving on, I think I may be onto something as to why the offense here stinks this season. They went out on a spending spree and brought in new guys, and on the surface it seems legit. But when you look at it and realize what they did, it's pretty much on par with the Bruins playing the elevate Coyle to second line center game. They got Agholor and Bourne, and that's fine on at first blush. But when you slot them in, Bourne is really a 3 and Agholor is really a 2. The issue is that they have Agholor playing WR1 and Bourne at WR2. They slotted up and it's simply not good enough because each guy is out of their natural spot and playing above their abilities.

 

[DangleCity]

Weren't Gronk and AB added after Brady signed? The Bucs had two very good WRs but again, not a single person was calling them a loaded team that was just a QB away from contending for a SB. That simply is not true.

I'm not sure how you can sit here and tell me they aren't a loaded team. They were a QB away. Winston threw 30 picks the year before. The problem was at QB for them.

 

[LSCII]

Literally 3 Super Bowl titles (and 4 trips) in the five seasons before he demanded out.

So, uh, it got him a lot.

Nah. Love ya buddy, but that's revisionist history. He didn't demand out. He wanted a 2 year commitment from the team and BB was petty and leveraged him to go year to year. After that he finally signed a deal and made the team put it in writing that the franchise tag was off the table.

 

[DangleCity]

In the spirit of moving on, I think I may be onto something as to why the offense here stinks this season. They went out on a spending spree and brought in new guys, and on the surface it seems legit. But when you look at it and realize what they did, it's pretty much on par with the Bruins playing the elevate Coyle to second line center game. They got Agholor and Bourne, and that's fine on at first blush. But when you slot them in, Bourne is really a 3 and Agholor is really a 2. The issue is that they have Agholor playing WR1 and Bourne at WR2. They slotted up and it's simply not good enough because each guy is out of their natural spot and playing above their abilities.

It's gunna take some time with the offense. Rookie QB, 2 new WRs, and 2 new TE's. If they look like this at the end of the year without any improvement then I would be worried

 

[KrejciMVP]

I'm not sure how you can sit here and tell me they aren't a loaded team. They were a QB away. Winston threw 30 picks the year before. The problem was at QB for them.

but that QB is now 2-1 with NO beating GB and Bill

 

[Johnnyduke]

I'm not sure how you can sit here and tell me they aren't a loaded team. They were a QB away. Winston threw 30 picks the year before. The problem was at QB for them.

Congrats on being literally the only person in the world who thought the Bucs were just a QB away from being a SB contender.

 

[DiggityDog]

Sports fandom and a relationship with a significant other are not the same thing.

You are absolutely right, this is why it’s so silly.

 

[Troublesome 85]

In the spirit of moving on, I think I may be onto something as to why the offense here stinks this season. They went out on a spending spree and brought in new guys, and on the surface it seems legit. But when you look at it and realize what they did, it's pretty much on par with the Bruins playing the elevate Coyle to second line center game. They got Agholor and Bourne, and that's fine on at first blush. But when you slot them in, Bourne is really a 3 and Agholor is really a 2. The issue is that they have Agholor playing WR1 and Bourne at WR2. They slotted up and it's simply not good enough because each guy is out of their natural spot and playing above their abilities.

I personally thought the WR signings were lack luster. I also hoped there would be more action and results from the TEs

OL has been atrocious and Mac is a rookie. Its still early but I see this team being 9-7 or 8-8.
The optimist sees MAYBE 10-6 but even then its a 1 and done in the POs

 

[DangleCity]

Literally 3 Super Bowl titles (and 4 trips) in the five seasons before he demanded out.

So, uh, it got him a lot.

Poor Tom and Gronk all that winning must really take a toll. Lmao

 

[DangleCity]

Congrats on being literally the only person in the world who thought the Bucs were just a QB away from being a SB contender.

Seems like history proved me right. They dropped in Tom and won a SB

 

[KrejciMVP]

Seems like history proved me right. They dropped in Tom and won a SB

nobody was saying superbowl fav when they were 7-5. they said coaching mattered and Arians stunk

 

[DiggityDog]

Congrats on being literally the only person in the world who thought the Bucs were just a QB away from being a SB contender.

I’ve been a Bucs fan my whole life. NO ONE thought they were one QB away.

We were most certainly one TOM BRADY away though. Once he signed, the whole aura around the team changed. Just by having him in TB, every player on that instantly believed they could contend.

That’s what makes him special IMO. it’s not the yards, the records, etc. It’s the belief, with him, there is not one game you are out of.

 

[DiggityDog]

Oh and for shits and giggles, while I’m here. When most people talk about Tampa it’s usually about the offense.

People always neglect the fact that they have arguably the best front seven in the NFL. Defense has been solid for years. However when you’ve got Jameis chucking up 30+ picks your defense is going to be in bad spots a lot.