NHL 2021-2022 NHL Out of Town Thread III - Blackhawks’ GM Stan Bowman resigns

[Fenway]

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[JAD]

I was looking at Calgary's roster ... I didn't realize Markstrom was 6'6"; I knew Vladar was 6'5". That's two very large goalies.

 

[22Brad Park]

I was looking at Calgary's roster ... I didn't realize Markstrom was 6'6"; I knew Vladar was 6'5". That's two very large goalies.

Toughest team in the league for my money .Lucic,B. Ritchie ,Gunbrannsson & Zadorov.

 

[DKH]

Toughest team in the league for my money .Lucic,B. Ritchie ,Gunbrannsson & Zadorov.

Lot of studs there

 

[DKH]

 

[DKH]

Lightning 'praying' Kucherov OK after leaving game with apparent injury

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

feels gross to scoff at a player being injured but it's really hard not to see Tampa as the team that cried wolf.

anyone know how cap space accrual is affected by LTIR? Do they accrue more deadline cap space by having Kucherov on LTIR?

 

[BMC]

feels gross to scoff at a player being injured but it's really hard not to see Tampa as the team that cried wolf.

anyone know how cap space accrual is affected by LTIR? Do they accrue more deadline cap space by having Kucherov on LTIR?

I must confess to feeling some skepticism myself. Nothing wrong with that, TB does not deserve the benefit of the doubt after the bullshit they have pulled with LTIR in the past.

If Kucherov really is injured I wish him a complete recovery.

 

[TCB]

If and I say if Kucherov is out of an extended period, I can see the lightning knocking on Krejci door.

 

[Lobster57]

If and I say if Kurcherov is out of an extended period, I can see the lightning knocking on Krejci door

Krejci would have to clear waivers i think, unless there is a minimum games stipulation to that rule

 

[JRull86]

feels gross to scoff at a player being injured but it's really hard not to see Tampa as the team that cried wolf.

anyone know how cap space accrual is affected by LTIR? Do they accrue more deadline cap space by having Kucherov on LTIR?

@DominicT or someone else better at the cap could probably give you a better, more in depth explanation, but the short answer is sort of.

They gain LTIR pool money based on cap hit. They don't accrue extra from his cap hit, but would still accrue on unused cap.

 

[DominicT]

@DominicT or someone else better at the cap could probably give you a better, more in depth explanation, but the short answer is yes.

LTIR space can not be banked unlike regular cap space. Also can not be used for bonus overages.

 

[JRull86]

LTIR space can not be banked unlike regular cap space. Also can not be used for bonus overages.

Yeah just edited to be more clear.

 

[TCB]

Krejci would have to clear waivers i think, unless there is a minimum games stipulation to that rule

If IRRC I believe he has until December 15 before he would have to clear waivers.

 

[DKH]

feels gross to scoff at a player being injured but it's really hard not to see Tampa as the team that cried wolf.

anyone know how cap space accrual is affected by LTIR? Do they accrue more deadline cap space by having Kucherov on LTIR?

I love watching the Palat - Point- Kucherov line

spectacular line

One thing to watch is before trade deadline they put Stamkos or McDonagh on LTIR so they can trade for a couple of UFA players who will expand their depth and then activate whoever they put on LTIR for playoffs

 

[KrejciMVP]

feels gross to scoff at a player being injured but it's really hard not to see Tampa as the team that cried wolf.

anyone know how cap space accrual is affected by LTIR? Do they accrue more deadline cap space by having Kucherov on LTIR?

I think Kucherovs hip surgery was real

 

[JRull86]

I think Kucherovs hip surgery was real

I don't think anyone ever discounted the validity of it.

It's the fact that they waited until essentially camp to get it done knowing he faced 6 months of recovery, when they were facing cap issues, so they could bring him back for the playoffs and not have to worry about the cap.

It's smart from TB no doubt, but it's a stupid loophole/oversight with the LTIR and cap itself that doesn't force teams to be cap compliant in the playoffs.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I don't think anyone ever discounted the validity of it.

It's the fact that they waited until essentially camp to get it done knowing he faced 6 months of recovery, when they were facing cap issues, so they could bring him back for the playoffs and not have to worry about the cap.

It's smart from TB no doubt, but it's a stupid loophole/oversight with the LTIR and cap itself that doesn't force teams to be cap compliant in the playoffs.

I think they did whats in the best interest of the player, not the cap. Signing up your talent for season ending surgeries to avoid cap implications seems very unrealistic to me.

 

[JRull86]

I think they did whats in the best interest of the player, not the cap. Signing up your talent for season ending surgeries to avoid cap implications seems very unrealistic to me.

They knew all off-season is my point, it's been discussed.

Waiting until training camp to maximize the recovery time/benefit of LTIR for an unavoidable surgery is what people took issue with.

Again, it's shrewd, but it's obvious why people took exception to it.

 

[KrejciMVP]

They knew all off-season is my point, it's been discussed.

Waiting until training camp to maximize the recovery time/benefit of LTIR for an unavoidable surgery is what people took issue with.

Again, it's shrewd, but it's obvious why people took exception to it.

doubt he could have played with that hip if it needed surgery. I think the doctors know best who I assume are not thinking about the cap.

 

[inactive user]

If and I say if Kucherov is out of an extended period, I can see the lightning knocking on Krejci door.

He signs with them and we claim him off waivers.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

doubt he could have played with that hip if it needed surgery. I think the doctors know best who I assume are not thinking about the cap.

again, nobody is suggesting he didn't need surgery or could have played with it. the question is why not get the surgery in July instead of at the start of the season and then missing regular season games. some people think they waited so they could benefit from the extra time on LTIR.

 

[KrejciMVP]

again, nobody is suggesting he didn't need surgery or could have played with it. the question is why not get the surgery in July instead of at the start of the season and then missing regular season games. some people think they waited so they could benefit from the extra time on LTIR.

I think pitchers wait sometimes to get Tommy Johns, again I think he and his doctor probably evaluated all options with surgery being the last.

 

[Gee Wally]

Ilya Kovalchuk named general manager of Russian Olympic men’s team

 

[TCB]

He signs with them and we claim him off waivers.

Only if he signs after December 15 and the standings allow it.

I don't think he signs with them, but Tampa would be crazy not to give him a call