2020 Champions League Thread

[koyvoo]

Statistically it must be 100x more difficult and unlikely to miss the chance Sterling missed.

 

[Live in the Now]

From 92-98, they lost to teams like Torpedo Moscow, Rotor Volgograd twice, Galatasaray and Dortmund in knockouts.

Those kinds of teams used to actually be good. Dortmund won the CL that year.

 

[Blender]

Those kinds of teams used to actually be good. Dortmund won the CL that year.

Yea, there used to be a lot more great clubs before the huge difference in money that there is today.

 

[Cassano]

Those kinds of teams used to actually be good. Dortmund won the CL that year.

Sure there are good teams there, just like City lost to a few good teams during Pep's tenure.

 

[keonsbitterness]

The discrimination is real.

Them's fighting words. DROP THE GLOVES!

 

[Cassano]

You know what's crazy, imagine if PSG and Lyon had a full string of competitive run-in games to prepare for this tournament. People are overlooking how much of a disadvantage they were going into this.

 

[les Habs]

As someone who isn’t defending Guardiola and who on this very forum said that he wasn’t the best manger in the World well before today’s match I am simply putting some things into context. Of course he should have done better than he has in Europe, but exactly how much better would be the better discussion. And IMO there’s not much of a case to say he should have done so much better than he has. Yes he has an expensive squad, but anyone who’s followed the game knows that spending doesn’t always equate to winning, especially in Europe. Furthermore to claim “Pep spent” when that isn’t entirely true is pretty dumb. He’s been given credit for buying players who were at the club before he arrived on this forum before. And imagine saying something like “well he’s only won it with Messi.”

City won’t sack him nor should they right now. There are only two managers they should even consider if they do and one of them would never sign for them.

 

[Chimaera]

Lyon seem to be a good club in a one off situation. Kinda like Liverpool was for a while when United was dominant. Could beat anyone on their day, but meh the rest of the time. At least that’s what I see when I watch them in the CL.

 

[les Habs]

And using this match of any as some sort of example all things considered...

 

[Stray Wasp]

From 92-98, they lost to teams like Torpedo Moscow, Rotor Volgograd twice, Galatasaray and Dortmund in knockouts. They won 4 league titles and 2 FA Cups in that span. It is worse than what City has with Pep TBH.

While agree Ferguson's record in Europe contains its fair share of embarrassing blemishes, one of those names listed doesn't belong in your list.

Around that time Dortmund fielded Kohler, Reuter, Sousa, Moller and Riedle - that's four World Cup winners and someone who joined Dortmund direct from the Champions League holders.

They were even better on the rare occasions they had Sammer healthy - albeit I think he missed both legs of the semi with Man United in 97. Indeed, if memory serves, they suffered other missing starters over the two legs. On the other hand, it's possible Man U had absentees too that I forget at two decades' remove.

 

[Cassano]

As someone who isn’t defending Guardiola and who on this very forum said that he wasn’t the best manger in the World well before today’s match I am simply putting some things into context. Of course he should have done better than he has in Europe, but exactly how much better would be the better discussion. And IMO there’s not much of a case to say he should have done so much better than he has. Yes he has an expensive squad, but anyone who’s followed the game knows that spending doesn’t always equate to winning, especially in Europe. Furthermore to claim “Pep spent” when that isn’t entirely true is pretty dumb. He’s been given credit for buying players who were at the club before he arrived on this forum before. And imagine saying something like “well he’s only won it with Messi.”

City won’t sack him nor should they right now. There are only two managers they should even consider if they do and one of them would never sign for them.

I also believe they need to hire Zidane to take it to the next level in Europe. Great minds think alike.

 

[les Habs]

I also believe they need to hire Zidane to take it to the next level in Europe. Great minds think alike.

They do, but I obviously wasn’t thinking Zidane.

 

[Pouchkine]

Incredible the ignorance of some people. It's all out there, there's tons of books on soccer history, historical games available everywhere, plenty of websites to learn stuff.

 

[Stray Wasp]

There are only two managers they should even consider if they do and one of them would never sign for them.

I'm not so sure about that - I think if Barca promised Steve Bruce they'd bring Joelinton and Shelvey with him, he'd be on the first flight to Catalunya.