2019-2020 - Around the League (All non-Stars NHL Talk here)

[M88K]

Maybe we should trade Pavelski for Zuccarello.

so we can trade a 1p scorer for a 0p scorer?

 

[Frozen Failure]

so we can trade a 1p scorer for a 0p scorer?

So we can trade a guy who can't skate or play hockey at this point, for a guy who can actually skate and play hockey.

 

[Webster]

Zuccarello had chemistry with a lot of guys here. What he decided to do was a stupid mistake, and he knows.

Now if he wants to get out of Minnesota there are options. And the Stars could be interested since they don't have to take his NMC, the Wild could even be willing to retain, and they need a center with some talent.

 

[Satan]

Nah

 

[serp]

I sincerely doubt Zucc completely waives his NMC . He fought to get it and he's not giving it up even if it means having a miserable time on the Wild for a while.

 

[Troy McClure]

If there is real worry that this current roster is broken and needs a reset, it's probably also not wise to go swap a guy with two more seasons on his contract for a guy with four more seasons on his, especially when the latter is going to have to be protected in the expansion draft.

 

[Troy McClure]

Ya, I see the term "generational" thrown around A LOT in his threads.

HF measures generations using fruit fly lifespans.

 

[serp]

Zuccarello is not completely waiving his NMC to leave Minny less than half a year after he signed his contract. That is pure fiction . Even then Wild and Stars i don't think trade with each other.

 

[LT]

There's no point in discussing it. It's not happening. We can drop the discussion.

 

[M88K]

If there is real worry that this current roster is broken and needs a reset, it's probably also not wise to go swap a guy with two more seasons on his contract for a guy with four more seasons on his, especially when the latter is going to have to be protected in the expansion draft.

This isn't necessary true though
Zuc has to waive his NMC to be traded to any team, the new team can decide to "honor" it or not
Typically a player won't waive an NMC without it being honored at the new team, but they can negotiate in an out for the expansion year, into the existing contract (kind of sort of how Seguin got an NMC added into his contract last year before his new one kicked in)

 

[serp]

This isn't necessary true though
Zuc has to waive his NMC to be traded to any team, the new team can decide to "honor" it or not
Typically a player won't waive an NMC without it being honored at the new team, but they can negotiate in an out for the expansion year, into the existing contract (kind of sort of how Seguin got an NMC added into his contract last year before his new one kicked in)

Sure but thats not happening . Zuccs camp fought hard for that NMC. He's not agreeing to get rid of it especially not less than half a year after he signed his contract . So we can stop talking about it

 

[MilesNewton]

so we can trade a 1p scorer for a 0p scorer?

Anaheim looking for a something maybe a D or a winger . Kase might be available.

 

[MilesNewton]

If there is real worry that this current roster is broken and needs a reset, it's probably also not wise to go swap a guy with two more seasons on his contract for a guy with four more seasons on his, especially when the latter is going to have to be protected in the expansion draft.

Why not try mixing up the 1st line again? Stick Benn way down there maybe some time on the bench or 3/4 line will ignite a little fire. Have to wonder what his distraction is and lack of motivation.

 

[M88K]

Sure but thats not happening . Zuccs camp fought hard for that NMC. He's not agreeing to get rid of it especially not less than half a year after he signed his contract . So we can stop talking about it

Nah i refuse.
I was just the person who didn't want Zuc signed and still don't want him now.
But dammit you want to stop talking about how NMC can be honored throughout a contract with a expansion exception negotiated in with the acquiring team despite the fact that the Stars don't have enough quality forwards worth protecting that 1 nmc would be an issue anyway.
What the FO should be doing is seeing if Benn would waive his NMC for the expansion draft so he doesn't have to be protected and let him go be Seattle problem. And be closer to home and stuff

 

[Troy McClure]

Nah i refuse.
I was just the person who didn't want Zuc signed and still don't want him now.
But dammit you want to stop talking about how NMC can be honored throughout a contract with a expansion exception negotiated in with the acquiring team despite the fact that the Stars don't have enough quality forwards worth protecting that 1 nmc would be an issue anyway.
What the FO should be doing is seeing if Benn would waive his NMC for the expansion draft so he doesn't have to be protected and let him go be Seattle problem. And be closer to home and stuff

The trade for Zucc makes no sense for a lot of reasons. The length of his contract and the NMC are part of it.

When I think back to the post-Hicks years where the team was being run by creditors and the NHL, the worst part of it all was the team never got bad enough to get to pick truly great players. The best pick they ever got from those years was 8th overall. I would hate to think that adding Zuccarello to the other untradeable vets would mean the team is terrible but not so terrible that they're getting top five pick lotto balls.

 

[AJ Thelen]

Zuccarello had chemistry with a lot of guys here. What he decided to do was a stupid mistake, and he knows.

Now if he wants to get out of Minnesota there are options. And the Stars could be interested since they don't have to take his NMC, the Wild could even be willing to retain, and they need a center with some talent.

1. He has played 4(!) games. No player or team jumps ship on each other because of a bad start of 4, 5, 6 or 20 games for that matter.

2. Why on earth would Wild be willing to retain any salary to get rid of the guy they wanted the most of every available UFA in the league just a couple of months ago?

 

[LT]

Daniel Carr clears waivers

@Satan is in reportedly in shambles

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Daniel Carr clears waivers

@Satan is in reportedly in shambles

Dam had a chance at a truly elite player for free.

 

[Satan]

Daniel Carr clears waivers

@Satan is in reportedly in shambles

omfg

 

[Sports2]

31 Thoughts: Taylor Hall contract status looms over slow-starting Devils - Sportsnet.ca

Word on Minnesota is that GM Bill Guerin will listen on everything but isn’t in a rush to do anything simply for the sake of it. I think they’d like to address a recurring problem — the team’s lack of right-handed shots.

Who can we dump- I mean, which one of our wonderful NHL caliber players can we begrudgingly part with.

 

[Kcb12345]

Yikes. Tomorrow if we lose will we see a Stars player come out and say Monty needs to be better?

 

[LT]

Yikes. Tomorrow if we lose will we see a Stars player come out and say Monty needs to be better?

“if”

The fact they had a meeting like that and we didn’t should already tell you how that game is gonna go

 

[Sports2]

“if”

The fact they had a meeting like that and we didn’t should already tell you how that game is gonna go

Or they did, we didn’t hear about it, and nothing changed. I’m not sure which would be worse. Lol

 

[BrettHullsToe]

They had an "emotional" dinner somewhere around game 4 or 5 - didn't help.

 

[serp]

They had an "emotional" dinner somewhere around game 4 or 5 - didn't help.

Well they won a game after the dinner.