Prospect Info: 2019-20 Flyers Prospects - Top 30 SKATERS, #14

[Ghosts Beer]

I don’t see him having success as a 4th line center that gets limited even strength ice time, wingers with limited skills and PK duties.

For him to be successful he will need to play too 9 with skilled wingers. He needs to control pace and distribute. He doesn’t consistently bring energy that you look for from guys that are playing limited minutes and need to make something happen to earn more ice time.

On top of that, he doesn't seem to be a fit on the wing and he would be behind Coots, Hayes, Patrick, Frost, Rubstov and Laughton at center.

Vorobyev doesn't have an NHL future. At one point I was a fan, but I don't see an NHL role. He's not a good enough skater for the top six, and he lacks the competitiveness and strength for the bottom six. I think he'd rather coast against weaker competition with more ice space in Europe. It's a better fit for his game.

 

[Rebels57]

I see the Pimp talk has once again descended into farce.

Where on Earth did you find this??

 

[wasup]

I see the Pimp talk has once again descended into farce.

Wait till it's Bunny time talk , you ain't seen nothing yet . I've been saving up for the chicken farmer .

 

[EXTRAS]

19 goals in 62 games as an AHL 20 year old rookie? Gimme bunnaman.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Where on Earth did you find this??

I rage-searched something like "clown miasma"

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Wait till it's Bunny time talk , you ain't seen nothing yet . I've been saving up for the chicken farmer .

People building up slap capitol shouldn't be surprised at the beat-down in their future.

 

[deadhead]

While the Cap'n's judgment is often questionable, his passion is undeniable.

"Into the valley of death rode the six hundred . . ."

Cap'n would be leading the charge.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Cap’n is one of a kind, I’ll say that. But it’s almost uncanny how I disagree with 99% of his hockey opinions.

 

[wasup]

While the Cap'n's judgment is often questionable, his passion is undeniable.

"Into the valley of death rode the six hundred . . ."

Cap'n would be leading the charge.

I'm just wondering who he had shooting that video of him walking out on that golf course . His tail is longer than i thought .

 

[Provorov4Norris]

Cates continues to be underrated

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Cates continues to be underrated

I agree, but I’d say Ginning is the most underrated. 2 votes? If I had to bet on one of the remaining players to play the most nhl games, he’s absolutely my pick. 2nd rounder, 88 SHL games to his name at age 19. Featured regularly internationally; just was on Sweden’s first pair at the WJ showcase (2 pts, 8 shots in 5 games). He’s not flashy, but he’s a good, smart player.

 

[Rebels57]

Cates continues to be underrated

What has he done to earn consideration over anyone thus far voted ahead of him?

 

[deadhead]

Cates looked very smooth at the WJC, smart player who plays a 200 foot game.
Nothing stands out, but nothing seems to be deficient either, that is, he's a good but not great skater, can pass and shoot but doesn't "wow" you. 6'1 185 which will probably fill out to 6'1 200 or so, good size for a two way bottom six forward.
However, it's hard to judge his college career b/c no one seems to score a lot for Minn-Duluth, all they do is win games.

I think this is a key season for him, Richards is the only returning top forward, along with Koepke, so he should get 1st line time and be a key player for this team. If he steps up and has a big season (ppg is top scoring for this team), I see him leaving school and in the AHL for 2020-21.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I agree that Cates should have a breakout season. Everything is set up for it. If he doesn’t, then something is missing in his game.

 

[Curufinwe]

He had a better 19 year old season in college and the WJC than JOB did.

 

[wasup]

I agree, but I’d say Ginning is the most underrated. 2 votes? If I had to bet on one of the remaining players to play the most nhl games, he’s absolutely my pick. 2nd rounder, 88 SHL games to his name at age 19. Featured regularly internationally; just was on Sweden’s first pair at the WJ showcase (2 pts, 8 shots in 5 games). He’s not flashy, but he’s a good, smart player.

I agree on your Ginning take a bit but he is a whipping boy on here and people don’t like to go against the grain . Just like if it’s better prospect they can make mistakes or have bad games but nobody mentions that . I thought Farabee had a great wjss thought Ginning and Yam Cork were decent and thought Brink needs a good start at Denver or he ain’t making the team.

 

[deadhead]

Brink is young for his age group and needs to both fill out and work on his skating.
Check back in two years.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Yes. Saying a top 50 pick from a year ago isn't a top 15 (or top 30) prospect in the system isn’t going against the grain.

This place sucks. Give someone too much praise = overrated. Criticize someone too much = whipping boy.

Not like the last whipping boy didn’t turn out to be quite possibly the worst defenseman in the league or anything. Or the most overrated prospect in hockey turned out to be a bonafide stud. It’s almost like some people know what they are taking about and aren’t just taking out of their asses about players they’ve never taken time to actually watch and evaluate. Just lazy.

 

[Stizzle]

This place sucks.

 

[Starat327]

People building up slap capitol shouldn't be surprised at the beat-down in their future.

What on gods green earth

 

[deadhead]

It's the descent of man: golfer to caddy to groundskeeper to . . .

 

[Curufinwe]

I wonder where K'Andre Miller would have landed in these polls.

 

[deadhead]

Tied with Zamula?

 

[The Madrigal]

I agree on your Ginning take a bit but he is a whipping boy on here and people don’t like to go against the grain .

In regards to Ginning it's kind of like the opposite stance with 24 year old Sam Morin and his 6 NHL games still being considered a prospect and a top 10 guy by so many. Some guys can do nothing right, and for others the excuses are endless.

 

[Magua]

I wonder where K'Andre Miller would have landed in these polls.

Probably 5. Probably where I’d slot him too. I could see people putting him above York though simply due to being in the organization longer with a college season under his belt. I wouldn’t.