2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[Kudo Shinichi]

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

When you're talking to a dummy and know you won't have to deal with him anymore.

 

[Fozz]

I've come to the point where I'd be a tad disappointed with anyone else but Kotkaniemi. Get the guy a skating technique coach to improve on his stride and hope for the best, 'cause the rest of his game I don't have a single hint of concern about.

If he doesn't improve his skating, he's a borderline NHLer. There is a certain level of risk there. Those that say he's fast and doesn't have skating issues are in denial.

 

[Fozz]

Going off what Timmins said and Bergevin's preferences, I have the same feeling. IMO they have Kotkaniemi, Tkachuk, Dobson, Zadina in that order. Wouldn't be surprised if they have Dobson higher than Tkachuk too.

No love for Hugues , huh? If they really want speed and skill, he's up there near the top. Imagine him paired with Weber for a minute.

 

[Goldenhands]

For my top 93, I decided to do things a bit differently. A cursory glance will show that I didn't include several big names. I don't necessarily have this players are no drafts, only I'm far lower on them than the rest of the world. If I'm too much lower on a player than the rest of the world, I just cut them from the list. Essentially, I'm just not willing to pay the price to get them. The first list contains only first year eligibles, and no goalies. The second list contains only draft re-entries. The third list contains the most loathsome position, goaltenders, one of whom is a re-entry.

Couple notes: David Gustafsson fell quite a bit from where I had him all season. I decided to put him as low as possible while still being ahead of the highest ranking of whom I am aware. Between the ears, he is a first round talent. But let's get the best price for him. O'Brien vs Morozov: this is one of those situations where I want both, so I adjusted my ranking to reflect the reality of where you will be able to pick these players. How to mix the lists? Up to you, but I feel pretty strongly about my rankings until the 50's. After that point you can take what you want from any of them.

First years:

1	Dahlin
2	Svechnikov
3	Kotkaniemi
4	Wahlstrom
5	Dobson
6	Zadina
7	Hughes
8	Kravtsov
9	Boqvist
10	Tkachuk
11	Berggren
12	Smith
13	Farabee
14	Bouchard
15	Kupari
16	Hayton
17	Denisenko
18	Kaut
19	Alexeyev
20	Lundeström
21	Dellandrea
22	Lundkvist
23	K'Andre Miller
24	Bokk
25	Foudy
26	Ylönen
27	Hållander
28	Sandin
29	Eriksson
30	Noel
31	Olofsson
32	McLeod
33	O'Brien
34	Addison
35	Tychonick
36	Morozov
37	Nordgren
38	Beaudin
39	M. Samuelsson
40	Gustafsson
41	Thomas
42	Jenik
43	Bernard-Docker
44	Demin
45	Hillis
46	Lauko
47	Regula
48	Iskhakov
49	Ragnarsson
50	F. Johansson
51	Fonstad
52	Fehervary
53	Topping
54	Drury
55	Roman
56	Zhuravlyov
57	A. Andersson
58	SDA
59	Kral
60	L. Karlsson
61	Gogolev
62	Shafigullin
63	Kurashev
64	Steeves
65	Wise
66	Gruden
67	McShane
68	Dunkley
69	Fagemo
70	Wylie
71	Bäck
72	Vallati
73	Zabransky
74	Bahl
75	Jenkins
76	Stastney
77	Pekar
78	Barteaux
79	Emberson
80	Weiss
81	Eggenberger
82	McShane
83	Stotts
84	Salmela
85	Florchuk
86	Marchenko
87	Ranta
88	Pekar
89	Plasek
90	Gross
91	Berni
92	Madden
93	J. Harris

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Re-entry:

1	Almeida
2	Keane
3	Hutsko
4	E. Emanuelsson
5	J. Sellgren
6	Sharangovich
7	Perunovich
8	Mascherin
9	Khodorenko
10	Yeryomenko
11	Nyman
12	S. Johansson
13	Durzi
14	Brazeau
15	Lahtinen
16	Pajuniemi
17	Vorobey
18	Dewar
19	Saigeon
20	Salda

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Goalies:

1	Skarek
2	Dostal
3	Rodrigue
4	Annunen
5	Lindbom
6	Vehvilainen
7	Miftakov
8	Isayev
9	Myrenberg
10	Karki

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

thats a very good list, easily one of the best I saw on HF, good job!

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Yeah, because Patches equals the 3rdOA pick. If that's on the table, easy, Patches for ROR. Done. Move on.

I imagine Buffalo is asking for 3 and we're countering with Pacioretty. Buffalo I think would like a Pacioretty, they need a high character vet winger who can do it all and score in bunches.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I think it's down to Kotkaniemi or Zadina, and I think the selection will be determined by what we do with Pacioretty.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think it's down to Kotkaniemi or Zadina, and I think the selection will be determined by what we do with Pacioretty.

That should have 0 bearing on anything.. if it does they are even bigger idiots

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

That should have 0 bearing on anything.. if it does they are even bigger idiots

If we trade Pacioretty we'll have zero snipers.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If we trade Pacioretty we'll have zero snipers.

So? You don't draft for immediate needs.. you draft for the best player.

 

[Ozmodiar]

View attachment 126021 When you're talking to a dummy and know you won't have to deal with him anymore.

I noticed that too. Lame duck GM talking, and you give zero f***ks.

"In my mind I'm gone to Carolina, can't you see the sunshine, can't you just feel the moonshine, ..."

 

[Tyson]

Wilde is a doughnut though, so who knows. 3rd overall would be AWFUL. Pacioretty would be ROBBERY.

Yeah but I can see Bergevin being this stupid

 

[jaffy27]

If we trade Pacioretty we'll have zero snipers.

We are in tank mode......

 

[Kwikwi]

No love for Hugues , huh? If they really want speed and skill, he's up there near the top. Imagine him paired with Weber for a minute.

Timmins said that he doesn’t think could defend in the nhl

 

[Fozz]

Timmins said that he doesn’t think could defend in the nhl

Never trust comments made by scouts on draft eligible players leading into the draft. Hockey 101.

 

[WinterLion]

Timmins said that he doesn’t think could defend in the nhl

Really? When where was this said?

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

Timmins said that he doesn’t think could defend in the nhl

Said he'd always have trouble defending due to his size.

 

[Runner77]

You forgot the case - not box but case - of Kleenex for when MB breaks your heart.

That's what the beer is there for -- to get smashed or cry in it -- it's a dual purpose thing.

 

[Habs Icing]

That's what the beer is there for -- to get smashed or cry in it -- it's a dual purpose thing.

Ah! Concise & elegant.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

So? You don't draft for immediate needs.. you draft for the best player.

IE Zadina. LOL

 

[G0bias]

Bouchard as their top defenseman of this class is making me nervous.

 

[The Great Weal]

Bouchard as their top defenseman of this class is making me nervous.

?

 

[Draft]

Bouchard as their top defenseman of this class is making me nervous.

Highest upside outside of Dahlin. The fact he can produce at his current rate and run an entire team playing a pro-style game (on the offensive side of the puck) is pretty impressive.

 

[G0bias]

?

From the MAG report. Well, technically tied second but who still counts Dahlin anymore.

I’ll post this here too..

MAG has a new article up on The Athletic discussing buzz as to who the Habs have in mind for their selection.

They have it listed as followed:

Kotkaniemi - 55%
Tkachuk - 20%
Zadina - 14%
Dobson - 5%
Bouchard - 4%
Hughes - 2%

Dobson and Bouchard are “practically neck and neck” in the estimation of the Habs scouting staff, according to people MAG talked to.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

IE Zadina. LOL

Thats still just your opinion.