2018-2019 General Lightning Discussion

[Master P]

For anyone who missed it

 

[Rschmitz]

Rantanen looks like he died

 

[DFC]

For anyone who missed it

Someone needs to manipulate the video to give Gourde a matador's cape.

 

[Shoresy Snipes]

Game tmrw at 6pm? In Vegas, on a Friday? What is there, a magic show scheduled after the game?

 

[JFleegs]

I was dying laughing after gourde made that move, if he scored there on that empty net that would have been so awesome

 

[Sky04]

I hate this drop pass play on the PP, I hope teams start getting burned more for using it.

 

[DFC]

I hate this drop pass play on the PP, I hope teams start getting burned more for using it.

I think that pass is a big reason why our PP has improved though. Todd Richards brought it, apparently, and we're entering the zone a lot more easily now, and with a lot more speed.

 

[The Macho King]

I hate this drop pass play on the PP, I hope teams start getting burned more for using it.

I think every team uses some variation of this now. The drop/backwards pass isn't the problem (per se). That was just a bad decision. If you have backpressure, you have to be able to keep skating forward (which both Hedman and Sergachev excel at making the read for).

 

[These Are The Days]

The other reason we are doing better is because we aren't sending Stralman back slow as molasses to get the puck after a clear and he just sits there with it behind our net for 3 to 5 seconds before lugging it himself or making a breakout pass.

It got to the point of people booing at Amalie Arena when it happened. We must be talking almost 10 to 15 seconds each, including when we'd fail to enter the zone. Nearly 30 seconds gone by and you've attempted to attack twice and wasted 1/4 of your power play time

 

[Sky04]

I think that pass is a big reason why our PP has improved though. Todd Richards brought it, apparently, and we're entering the zone a lot more easily now, and with a lot more speed.

When did Todd Richards get hired again? I remember this pass being used to get Drouin the puck for zone entry. It works well used well but it's become a default move for guys even when they have a clear lane ahead to break the zone.

It's annoying seeing Hedman go speed backing guys up and then drop passing it to a guy going half as fast giving the Pker's time to set up again. Then there's the times they miss the drop pass and it does back to our blueline.

 

[DFC]

When did Todd Richards get hired again? I remember this pass being used to get Drouin the puck for zone entry. It works well used well but it's become a default move for guys even when they have a clear lane ahead to break the zone.

It's annoying seeing Hedman go speed backing guys up and then drop passing it to a guy going half as fast giving the Pker's time to set up again. Then there's the times they miss the drop pass and it does back to our blueline.

It was that year. Engblom said it was something Richards brought, in a broadcast that year, when our PP was starting to catch fire. The design is for Hedman (in your example) to back guys up at half speed, and then drop back to a guy (like Drouin, for instance) going full speed, and catch the D standing still or skating backwards at Hedman's pace. Sometimes it obviously doesn't look like that, but our zone entries have been a lot better since incorporating it.

 

[DFC]

The other reason we are doing better is because we aren't sending Stralman back slow as molasses to get the puck after a clear and he just sits there with it behind our net for 3 to 5 seconds before lugging it himself or making a breakout pass.

Pretty sure he was waiting for a line change in those instances. Usually, when a guy is waiting behind the net, there's a line change going on.

 

[Hockey4Life91]

It was that year. Engblom said it was something Richards brought in a broadcast that year, when our PP was starting to catch fire. The design is for Hedman (in your example) to back guys up at half speed, and then drop back to a guy (like Drouin, for instance) going full speed, and catch the D standing still or skating backwards at Hedman's pace. Sometimes it obviously doesn't look like that, but our zone entries have been a lot better since incorporating it.

Our PP zone entries were the bane of my existence before this tactic was implemented. For years we spoiled PPs as a result of our futility to gain the blue line with consistency.

 

[These Are The Days]

Pretty sure he was waiting for a line change in those instances. Usually, when a guy is waiting behind the net, there's a line change going on.

That's to be expected but it happened every time the puck was dumped back and he had to get it. We were not changing lines every time but Stralman lollygagged every time too. The whole thing used to be a mess. We're substantially better at retreiving and line changing and are ready to attack much faster these days.

#Todd Richards effect

 

[These Are The Days]

For anyone who missed it

Someone needs to do a GTA V "wasted" mod to that gif where everything slows down and grays out

 

[Todd1a]

Sustr placed on waivers we picking him up to replace hedman? Ducks' Andrej Sustr: Placed on waivers Friday

 

[DFC]

I think every team uses some variation of this now. The drop/backwards pass isn't the problem (per se). That was just a bad decision. If you have backpressure, you have to be able to keep skating forward (which both Hedman and Sergachev excel at making the read for).

Yeah, I've noticed a lot of times, when teams play us to pass, Hedman just takes the blue line and sets up, more/less unopposed. Pre-Richards, we either tried to dump and chase (which, especially at that time, we weren't very good at) or we made that play where we'd hold up at the blueline and then pass directly across, which often blew up in our faces. But no matter what we did, we did it at an ultra slow speed, and were way too predictable.

I mean, it's even more predictable now (league-wide, not just with us), but PK coaches haven't come up with an answer for it yet, aside from when a high IQ player reads the play correctly and creates a turnover.

 

[lakai17]

where are we slotting in Martel?

 

[Sky04]

where are we slotting in Martel?

Gourde-Point-Johnson
Miller-Stamkos-Kucherov
Killorn-Cirelli-Joseph
Martel-Paquette-Callahan

You bump up Miller, Martel on the 4th.

 

[TeslaCoilFan]

From today's practice in Brandon.

 

[CupsOverCash]

From today's practice in Brandon.

Stralman is great.

 

[DFC]

Steven Stamkos has 1 goal in his last 22 regular season games.

But, of course, his critics are being too hard on him.

 

[AlphaCatalyst]

Someone needs to do a GTA V "wasted" mod to that gif where everything slows down and grays out

 

[Sky04]

Steven Stamkos has 1 goal in his last 22 regular season games.

But, of course, his critics are being too hard on him.

Wow way to be selective with your numbers, you're making him look bad not including his playoff numbers. 8 goals in his past 39 gives puts him at 17 goal pace on a half season sample size!

 

[DFC]

Wow way to be selective with your numbers, you're making him look bad not including his playoff numbers. 8 goals in his past 39 gives puts him at 17 goal pace on a half season sample size!

Yeah I keep forgetting how awesome he was in those three games against Washington.