2018-2019 AUS Thread

[RED ARMY EAST]

Kris MacDonald was already suspended 1 game, but it was not shown on the original list. It was probably as a result of the UTube video. They may have got Stewart on the same thing. I wonder if the 2 game suspension included That game. Pretty hefty suspensions on both coaches. If your players want to jump the boards, it's hard to stop them all.


Edit: I don't think the coaches are allowed near the team, but I could be mistaken.

With the pressure from the media, they send a clear message with 10 games to Peddle and Burns.
Let's use X for example:
Peddle 10 games, served 2.
They beat Acadia in 3, beat SMU in 5. Peddle would be available for the best of 3 AUS final.
They sweep Acadia in 2, beat SMU in 5, he would miss game #1 of the AUS final, be available for game#2 and #3 and University Cup.
Regardless, Peddle is unavailable for the first 2 rounds for sure.

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

I would like to know the reasoning behind giving the coaches such long suspensions.

I wonder if it was due to the fact the league was led to believe the two teams had resolved any issues that led to the previous incidents....which clearly they had not. That could fall on the coaches not “controlling their players”.

Now, why the league took the two team’s word for it and didn’t investigate further is a whole other question.

 

[rethinking]

As MiamiHockey said, "The AUS has done what it needed to do here, which is to send a stern message to the coaches".

While at the same time, it did not send a really stern message to the two X players who physically started the brawl on the ice. Somewhat confusing!

 

[AUS Fan]

As someone else stated, with the media attention this has, the "real" truth will come out. Or, perhaps we'll never know. In any case, while it's cool to guess the winners of a playoff round, it's a bit different to be speculating on the reasons behind the AUS decisions or to assign blame to anyone without all the facts. Not trying to be a Debby Downer, but this is serious stuff.

 

[Rob]

No surprise that Moncton v UPEI has been postponed because of the weather. Hope X v Acadia stays on.

 

[MiamiHockey]

Edit: I don't think the coaches are allowed near the team, but I could be mistaken.

I think this is correct, but I'm not sure how they would enforce that.

 

[MiamiHockey]

I would like to know the reasoning behind giving the coaches such long suspensions.

I can think of a number of reasons.

Above all, the coach is responsible for controlling his team. That's the key message here. If it was ONE player who jumped over the boards and went berzerk, then you could attribute that action to the individual. This incident, on both sides, revealed coaches who lacked control over multiple players. Whether you attribute that to team culture or bad coaching is a matter of taste. You can't suspend a coach for a bad team culture or terrible coaching. You can suspend them for lacking control over his players.

Second, if you think of the bigger picture with CIS hockey, the Coach is the one constant, with players often leaving due to eligibility / other opportunities. Consequently, there needs to be a significant deterrent aimed at coaches.

Imagine this scenario: It's the last game of the season, a meaningless game between two rivals who are likely to see each other in the playoffs. What's to deter a coach from sending two guys over the boards to attack his opponent's best players? If coaches aren't susceptible to a lengthy suspension for that type of action, there should be no doubt that somebody would try it.

 

[Prov1X]

I believe that they are still allowed to be with the team, they are not permitted in the dressing room prior, during or after a game. They are not allowed to be in contact with the bench during the game.
Just read that St FX is appealing Peddle's suspension.

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

Can he still coach while they are appealing? If so, depending how long the appeal takes, that could be a sneaky way for him to coach during the playoffs and then serve the some of the suspension next year (depending on how far X advances).

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

No surprise that Moncton v UPEI has been postponed because of the weather. Hope X v Acadia stays on.

According to the St. FX Twitter, the game is still on.

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

UPEI/Moncton rescheduled to Thursday-Saturday-Monday.

This works out nicely for AUS fans as the two series won’t overlap now.

 

[GrayZack]

According to the St. FX Twitter, the game is still on.

Classes canceled today at Stfx and the fitness centre was closed today. Safe to assume the game is canceled too.

 

[Prov1X]

Classes canceled today at Stfx and the fitness centre was closed today. Safe to assume the game is canceled too.

Both St FX and Acadia twitter accounts are saying that the game is still on. Acadia tweeted an hour ago that they were already in town and ready.

 

[Eastern Scout]

I believe that they are still allowed to be with the team, they are not permitted in the dressing room prior, during or after a game. They are not allowed to be in contact with the bench during the game.
Just read that St FX is appealing Peddle's suspension.

Unless some changes were implemented over the last couple of years...
When a coach is suspended... They Are:
- Not permitted on the ice to practice with the team.
- They are permitted to travel with the team during away games / team travel.
- They are permitted to attend games but are not allowed in the arena 1.5 hours prior to game time... or 1 hr before warm up. They are not permitted in the dressing room area.
- Permitted to attend games. Must maintain zero contact with the players / bench staff during the game itself.
- Must leave arena immediately upon conclusion of the game & remain outside for 1 hour after the completion of the game.
- Must have zero contact with game officials during prior to, during and following game.

 

[Eastern Scout]

Can he still coach while they are appealing? If so, depending how long the appeal takes, that could be a sneaky way for him to coach during the playoffs and then serve the some of the suspension next year (depending on how far X advances).

Used to be that suspensions were "stayed" during an appeal process. However, that was changed some time ago. Players / Coaches who are suspended and appeal... remain suspended until such time as the appeal is concluded and suspension lifted/minimized and/or the full duration has been served. Teams pay a hefty fee to appeal. There are defined timelines in place for the appeal process as well.

Gone are the days where a team waits until the last minute... files an appeal... and then stall the proceedings as much as possible to keep the player/coach in the game at critical times ie: Playoffs.

If Peddle were to participate in a game prior to the appeal verdict being announced (even if the suspension was completely overturned)… he would be subject to further discipline... which by definition must be greater than the initial suspension. This is automatic.

So... if Peddle or Burns officially submitted their appeal prior to game 1 tonight... and believed they were eligible until the appeal is concluded... Regardless of the appeal outcome, they would receive:
- Automatic Additional suspension of 9+ games at a minimum. This would be in addition to and on top of whatever the existing suspension is/remained.
- Automatic # can and would likely be closer to the "double" ball park... so, closer to 16 games added.

If the initial suspension is totally cancelled... the new automatic suspension is applied. This would be an un-appealable suspension as well. One can't Claim ignorance or misunderstanding... it is the team's responsibility to know.

 

[RED ARMY EAST]

Used to be that suspensions were "stayed" during an appeal process. However, that was changed some time ago. Players / Coaches who are suspended and appeal... remain suspended until such time as the appeal is concluded and suspension lifted/minimized and/or the full duration has been served. Teams pay a hefty fee to appeal. There are defined timelines in place for the appeal process as well.

Gone are the days where a team waits until the last minute... files an appeal... and then stall the proceedings as much as possible to keep the player/coach in the game at critical times ie: Playoffs.

If Peddle were to participate in a game prior to the appeal verdict being announced (even if the suspension was completely overturned)… he would be subject to further discipline... which by definition must be greater than the initial suspension. This is automatic.

So... if Peddle or Burns officially submitted their appeal prior to game 1 tonight... and believed they were eligible until the appeal is concluded... Regardless of the appeal outcome, they would receive:
- Automatic Additional suspension of 9+ games at a minimum. This would be in addition to and on top of whatever the existing suspension is/remained.
- Automatic # can and would likely be closer to the "double" ball park... so, closer to 16 games added.



If the initial suspension is totally cancelled... the new automatic suspension is applied. This would be an un-appealable suspension as well. One can't Claim ignorance or misunderstanding... it is the team's responsibility to know.

St FX has appealed the suspension handed down to Brad Peddle. This was just announced on National news this morning.
This also comes after another fight in game 1 last night.

 

[timbitca]

Kevin Dickie also announced on AVR last night that Acadia was also appealing for Burnsie. StFX had actually announced their appeal for Peddle yesterday morning in a press release posted on thei Facebook page.

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

As Victor Findlay said, if both teams are sticking to their story and feel like they have been wronged with these suspensions, what did this investigation solve?

 

[MiamiHockey]

As Victor Findlay said, if both teams are sticking to their story and feel like they have been wronged with these suspensions, what did this investigation solve?

Nothing. In fact, the fight between fringe players Cuomo & McClelland served to make the AUS look worse than it did before the suspensions. It showed that the AUS has, essentially, no control over its programs.

I'm curious to see what happens here. If I were in charge of the AUS, I'd quash both appeals and add further suspensions for the Cuomo-McClelland fight. Of course, that's not likely to happen.

 

[Prov1X]

Any news on the appeals filed by Peddle and Burns? You would think that it would have been heard by now.