2018-19 NHL Farm Systems

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Up next are the Colorado Avalanche: a team who recorded 48 points just two seasons ago yet stand as a legitimate Stanley Cup contender in 2018-19.

What's more is that the Avalanche boast a solid farm system, as Cale Makar, Conor Timmins, and Martin Kaut stand poised to infuse even greater skill and flash into the team's roster.

 

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The latest edition of our 'NHL Farm System Report' peers into the prospect pool of the Pittsburgh Penguins -- a perennial NHL powerhouse whose future success could be threatened by a lack of quality young assets.


Don't think Pens have the rights to Bengtsson, he went back to the SHL. Also you left off Jordy Bellerive who is arguably the Pens best forward prospect along with Hallander.
 

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It's been a minute, but we're re-igniting our NHL Farm System Report Series today with an in-depth look into the Chicago Blackhawks' prospect pool. Boasting two stud defenders alongside an arsenal of quality depth prospects, don't expect the Blackhawks' playoff drought to persist.


Barely mention Mitchell? Seems like the prospect knowledge is pretty lacking in these reports.
 
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In today's edition of our NHL Farm System Report, we delve into the prospect pool of the Dallas Stars. With impressive prospect depth at each position on the ice, the Stars could finally achieve significant and sustainable success in the years ahead.

 

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Montreal gets a 'C+' because, while they have Kotkaniemi and Suzuki, that's about it. We've always been a big fan of McShane, and Ylonen and Primeau are certainly promising, yet as it stands now all of which are long-term projects who will need a ton of further development. If these three impress this season, odds are the Canadiens are awarded a higher grade next campaign. But, as of now, the 'C+' ranking reflects the Habs' lack of depth both positionally and skill-wise within their prospect pool outside of their top-two.

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Today's edition of our NHL Farm System Series examines the prospect pool of the Minnesota Wild.

Although boasting a number of incredibly talented and promising forwards, the Wild lack prospect depth on the blue line as well as in goal. If they wish to become a sustained force in the NHL, Minnesota will need to bolster the overall strength of its farm system.

 

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The Nashville Predators are one of the NHL's strongest and deepest teams. Boasting lethal attackers and unparalleled depth defensively, the Predators are built to win now. However, the long-term success of the Predators could come into question if the franchise fails to strengthen its dismal farm system.

Sure, the team features both Eeli Tolvanen and Dante Fabbro within their prospect pool. However, outside of these two budding stars, Nashville's prospect pipeline stands woefully thin and in need of bolstering.

 

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In today's edition of our NHL Farm System Report, we delve into the prospect pool of the Dallas Stars. With impressive prospect depth at each position on the ice, the Stars could finally achieve significant and sustainable success in the years ahead.

Hintz is a center not a defenseman
Also way to high on Guryanov/Hintz and way to low on Robertson
 

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The St. Louis Blues are a perennial powerhouse within the Central Division, and a team which will only become stronger once its young prospects reach the NHL stage.

The name of the game for the Blues? Their impressive depth and positional versatility.

 

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Alright.
For the sake of the argument I will use the three teams mentioned, though I couldve done much more.

To remain objective, Ill use boards lists of prospect (Most are top 25.)
You give the Habs a C+ rankings because "They lack depth" and they "only" have Kotkaniemi and Suzuki.
Bruins https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/final-hf-bruins-top-25-prospect-list-for-discussion.2537497/\
Detroit Who's our 22nd best prospect?
Montreal Habs top prospect? #36, 37 & 38

I will also keep the comparison as close as possible, positionally and age wise.

Can we assume that:
Kotkaniemi = Zadina > Donato
Suzuki = Rasmussen > Vakanainen

I dont think its an unreasonable thing to say, minor differences aside.

This would mostly mean that:
Montreal=Detroit > Boston

Can we assume that
Poehling = Frederic = Veleno
Statistically, upside wise, positionally, etc, they're all similar players.

I dont think its an unreasonable thing to say, minor differences aside.

This would mean that
Montreal=Detroit > Boston

Can we assume that
Svechnikov=Forsbacka-Karlsson>=Ylonen

Statistically, they are all very similar, stylistically, positionaly, and stastically. I can understand that Ylonen might be further back in developement, which explains his slightly worst ranking here.

Still, I dont think it is unreasonable to say that the impact of Ylonen compared to FK and Svechnikov does not constitute a large enough gap to make a difference between the Boston and Montreal, and thus, the rankings should stay the same.

This would mean that
Detroit => Montreal > Boston.

Can we assume that
Juulsen = Cholowski > Zboril
Both Cholowski and Juulsen seem NHL ready here, and both should be top four Dmen in the future, with Juulsen being better defensively and Cholowski being better offensively. Zboril seems to be lacking behind, while being the oldest of the trio, and was most likely never as talented as the other two. You might think that statistically, its closer between Zboril and Juulsen (If you dont account for injuries and strength of teams.), but using the same logic for Ylonen above, its fair to say Juulsen is ahead.

This would mean that
Detroit => Montreal > Boston

Can we assume that Hronek => Brooks > Lauzon

Hronek is ahead of Brook because he is older, using the same logic weve used, Lauzon is the worst statistically, and in upside. Hronek and Brook both project as top four defenders, or more, while Lauzon looks to be a fringe NHL player, unless his development picks up.

I think its safe to say that this now means:
Detroit>Montreal>Boston

Can we assume that Berggren > Studnicka > Olofsson
All forwards with relatively different values and strengths, Olofsson lacks behind both in talent and development years, here.

Detroit > Montreal > Boston, but the gap between Detroit montreal, is getting bigger and Boston is catching up.

Can we assume that Senyshyn > Evans > Smith
All relatively low upside forwards, Senyshyn has a chance at being more, but less certainty attributed to him, Evans is further along in development and probably gets a few call-up after his injury has healed, Smith is the least ready and should look to match Senyshyns low, but not bad numbers in his AHL rookie season.

Detroit > Montreal >= Boston

Cehlarik > Turgeon > Ikonen
Three offensively gifted players, three higher upside players, with the prior two being closer to NHL ready than Ikonen, and safer shots at the NHL.

Id say Cehlarik moves the needle a lot more than the three others here
Detroit > Montreal = Boston

Primeau > Larsson > Swayman (Using the top 20 of goalies, and my opinion.)

Primeau is just, so far, a much better goalie, but Id say they are all pretty long shot at being NHL goaltenders, moves the needle a bit, but not much.

Detroit > Montreal > Boston

Hillis > Lauko > Kivenmaki

Id say Hillis and Lauko are significantly ahead of Kivenmaki here, one being a really low pick and the other two being top 80 players, all relatively young with Lauko and Hillis having legit top six upside here. Both MTL and BOS move closer to DET, but the distance stays the same.

Detroit > Montreal > Boston.

Fitzgerald > Holmstrom = Fonstad (In my opinion, Fonstad is far ahead, but lets play the game.)
Fitzgerald is ahead in age but also in readiness and has better stats, Fonstad has the highest upside but is also the youngest.

Detroit > Montreal > Boston

Romanov = McIsaac = Andersson
The defenders coming out of the 2nd round ! Too early to judge anyone here, theyre all similar value, with minor differences. Romanov has made the CSKA which adds some major, major props to his resume.

Lindstrom > Fleury > Johansson
Another round of defenders here, Lindstrom and Fleury both have better upside and more talent, but Johansson has more experience, wouldnt say the difference is huge between the three, but it is significant enough.

Detroit > Montreal > Boston

McShane > Steen > Pearson

Long term projects, McShane and Steen hold considerably more potential than Pearson, who doesnt seem to progress at the speed of a NHL player. The needle doesnt move much, slight difference.

Detroit > Montreal > Boston

Lindgren > Petruzzeli > Keyser

Lindgren is good enough to start in the AHL, and most likely will get starts in the NHL, hes much further along in his development, being five years older than the other two. His potential is that of a journeyman 1G, Petruzzeli has good potential. Moves the needle slightly again, but not much.

Id say that after that, were starting to reach. Theres a pretty clear disconnect between where Detroit/Montreal are and where you rank Boston.

The failure here, that I think you did, was to not recognize Juulsen and Brook's talent. Not even mentioning a guy like Brook, who was one the best player in all of the camp of the Habs, is weird.

You basically ranked the team with the 2nd most picks in the last two years as the worst of the Atlantic, while Suzuki would rank comfortably at #2 on any list of top prospects for the Atlantic, and while they'd rank #2 for top 3, and most likely number two for top five too. You underrate Brook and Juulsen, and thats the biggest problem.

You cite McIsaac as strength for Detroit, but fail to recognize Brook as a strength for Montreal, why ?

You also seem to be really, really (Read way too) high on NHL readiness. The Leafs and Lighting here. You've ranked Grundstrom and Jonsson as 1 and 2, while their upside is very limited, and you've given the Lighting a B rating while they have no one that projects as more than a third liner on offense and no one that projects as more than a 2nd pairing D.
6 weeks later with games a good hour of comments down the drain at least in the Bruins players

Let me guess a Detroit or Montreal fan wrote this
 

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6 weeks later with games a good hour of comments down the drain at least in the Bruins players

Let me guess a Detroit or Montreal fan wrote this
So.... which of these statements were wrong? For all I know, I underrated Kotkaniemi, Brook and Juulsen.
 

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Although the Toronto Maple Leafs' farm system isn't especially strong given their top prospects have ascended to the NHL-level, the franchise still features a handful of intriguing prospects eager to make an impact at the NHL-level. In this feature, we take a look at five of Toronto's most impressive youngsters, and question what they could become in the years ahead.

 

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Rounding out the Central Division for this season's NHL Farm System Series is the Winnipeg Jets. Already boasting a wealth of depth at each position within their lineup, the Jets could develop into an unstoppable dynasty once a number of the organization's most promising prospects ascend to the NHL-level.

 

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It's been a busy season thus far getting ready for the 2019 OHL and NHL Drafts, however, we're hoping to complete out NHL Farm System Series by the end of the month in order to establish a strong foundation for the 2018-19 season.

To kick things off in the Pacific Division, we've assessed the prospect pool of the Anaheim Ducks. Despite a less than stellar season so far, the Ducks hold an extremely promising crop of young players poised to make in impact at the NHL-level in the near future.

 

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these are terrible.

Leafs at a full letter grade above MTL despite not having one prospect as valuable as anyone in MTL's top 3, and not having any of the depth of MTL's system.

OP, you need to stop taking yourself so seriously. Your "analysis" is far worse than most users' on HF, yet they don't try to make a website out of it...
 
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these are terrible.

Leafs at a full letter grade above MTL despite not having one prospect as valuable as anyone in MTL's top 3, and not having any of the depth of MTL's system.

OP, you need to stop taking yourself so seriously. Your "analysis" is far worse than most users' on HF, yet they don't try to make a website out of it...
yeah this is quite horrible. Lock worthy horrible
 
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Today's edition of our NHL Farm System Report takes a closer look at the prospect pool of the Arizona Coyotes -- a team which holds a number of quality assets despite trading former third-overall selection Dylan Strome this season. If the Coyotes hope to reach the playoffs for the first time since 2011-12, they'll need these prospects to contribute in a major way.

 

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Umm how does a top 5 of Koktaniemi, Brook, Suzuki, Primeau and Poehling not have better than a C+?

Koktaniemi = 18 year old on pace for 40 points in NHL
Brook = Top 10 defensemen in CHL
Suzuki = On pace for another 100 pt season, one of top forwards in OHL
Primeau = tearing it up in college (goalie MVP at WJs)
Poehling = doing well at St Cloud and WJs MVP

That doesn't even include Romanov (best defenseman at last WJs), and other potential long shots with upside (Ylonen, Ikonen, McShane and Hillis)

This guy is a joke. Habs arguably have a top 5 prospect pool in the league.
 

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I won't go into how bad your previous rankings were, as they are your opinion, right or wrong. However in the interest of integrity, I suggest you post the ranking you gave previously before the season started in each write up and explain why at midseason, with only minor changes in the prospects involved it is different now. There is no shame in erring in evaluating the prospects and you should take props for the things you did get right. It is hard to take your ranking seriously if you ignore completely what you wrote about prospect pools only 4 or so months ago and make it seem like you are doing this for the first time now. As well perhaps list all the teams and their previous grade in one post, from best to worst, and update it as you do the new ones with the current rankings, allowing an easy comparison.
 

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Hi everyone. In response to some of your recent concerns in this thread, we want to take a moment to clarify our approach to these rankings. Over the course of the season we haven't, and won't be, posting updated versions of specific team rankings. These team specific rankings are meant to cover the 2018-19 season as a whole. However, due to the size of our current writing team, we have only been able to write farm system reports for the Pacific Division this month. So, in short, the recent reports posted in this thread aren't updates but, rather, comprehensive 2018-19 team reports. Our plan is to write one report per team per season, and use time in order to compare and evaluate changes and progression. Keep in mind, these letter grades are assigned from the start of the season and don't reflect the play of a team's prospects thus far in 2018-19.

In the meantime, hopefully this grading-system breakdown will help to clarify further.

A+ to A-: Multiple high-end prospects, quality to little depth present.
B+ to B-: Few high-end prospects, little depth or lack of present.
C+ to C-: One or less high-end prospects, little to no depth present.
D+ to D-: No high-end prospects, little to no depth present.
 

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Hi everyone. In response to some of your recent concerns in this thread, we want to take a moment to clarify our approach to these rankings. Over the course of the season we haven't, and won't be, posting updated versions of specific team rankings. These team specific rankings are meant to cover the 2018-19 season as a whole. However, due to the size of our current writing team, we have only been able to write farm system reports for the Pacific Division this month. So, in short, the recent reports posted in this thread aren't updates but, rather, comprehensive 2018-19 team reports. Our plan is to write one report per team per season, and use time in order to compare and evaluate changes and progression. Keep in mind, these letter grades are assigned from the start of the season and don't reflect the play of a team's prospects thus far in 2018-19.

In the meantime, hopefully this grading-system breakdown will help to clarify further.

A+ to A-: Multiple high-end prospects, quality to little depth present.
B+ to B-: Few high-end prospects, little depth or lack of present.
C+ to C-: One or less high-end prospects, little to no depth present.
D+ to D-: No high-end prospects, little to no depth present.

I stopped reading after you said 'we'

I thought this was just your brutal list, but the fact that you and at least one other person collectively came up with this list just makes it worse. Not a single one of you has the slightest clue about NHL prospects??
 

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