2016 Trade Deadline Discussion

[R8Devs]

I'd trade for RNH and give up Severson without thinking twice.

yea him too but I think he probably would have higher value than Draisaitl because he's more proven, better defensively, and only two years older.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I don't think trading RHD for a one-dimensional winger is the way to go. The only guy I would want out the Oilers other than Hall/McDavid(who are both untouchable probably) is Draisaitl. Like Severson+1st for him but that's in my dreams to get a 1C.

Also those are fans saying they are okay with that deal but has there been even any reputable sources that focus on a Devils/Oilers deal other than scouting.

This. We are overpaying for Eberle by sending just Severson. Never mind Severson + but I would definitely consider sending Severson for RNH or doing something for Drastili (which I don't see happening)

 

[Emperoreddy]

Eberle has scored at a .79 PPG pace early in his career.

I think you are really underestimating him.

His 70 point season pre lockout? Because he has been a 60 point player since and right now doesn't play defense.

Severson + is to much. It was always to much everytime we debated trying to get Eberle.

 

[Ripshot 43]

I agree with who said we should flip the returns of some of our rentals and use them to get Yakupov. Give him this offseason to work with Devils management.

I'm very torn on if a Severson/Drouin trade could work and if I would pull the trigger. I think this is just a slumping season for Severson and that he will be a consistent top 3 guy but at the same time I believe in Drouins talent and that given a different opportunity he will become a consistent threat.

 

[Emperoreddy]

yea him too but I think he probably would have higher value than Draisaitl because he's more proven, better defensively, and only two years older.

Possibly. And there hasn't been anything solid that we could be partners. There is talk of them making moves as they are on track to potentially getting another center in Matthews but they are still weak on defense and in net.

So it's about time to trade their forward depth for depth elsewhere.

 

[Zippy316]

His 70 point season pre lockout? Because he has been a 60 point player since and right now doesn't play defense.

Severson + is to much. It was always to much everytime we debated trying to get Eberle.

.79 PPG puts him on pace for 65 points.

 

[RSeen]

yea him too but I think he probably would have higher value than Draisaitl because he's more proven, better defensively, and only two years older.

I'm not sure he has higher value. I would rather have him than Draisaitl but I think the Oilers like Leon better and his fit with Hall. I think it is more likely RNH is available.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

This. We are overpaying for Eberle by sending just Severson. Never mind Severson + but I would definitely consider sending Severson for RNH or doing something for Drastili (which I don't see happening)

What? That isn't even close to overpayment. We have no idea what Severson will be. He had one stretch of great offensive play (with a lot of luck) and largely mediocre play other than that. Eberle is an established point producer. He'd be by far our most offensively talented player. And he's 25. And who cares if he's "one dimensional"..most forwards on this team are zero dimensional lol.

 

[Oneiro]

This fanbase has forgotten what developing d-men look like.

After years of White, Mottau, Volchenkov, Tallinder, Zidlicky, etc. and a heap of trash, it's pretty funny actually.

 

[glenwo2]

What? That isn't even close to overpayment. We have no idea what Severson will be. He had one stretch of great offensive play (with a lot of luck) and largely mediocre play other than that. Eberle is an established point producer. He'd be by far our most offensively talented player. And he's 25. And who cares if he's "one dimensional"..most forwards on this team are zero dimensional lol.

Agree with everything here.


You gotta give to get.

Severson could develop into a very good D-Man.....but then again maybe he won't. We don't know.

But we DO KNOW that Eberle can do something that hardly any of the Devils(sans Palmieri and Cammy) can do : SCORE. And that's something this team needs.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

This fanbase has forgotten what developing d-men look like.

After years of White, Mottau, Volchenkov, Tallinder, Zidlicky, etc. and a heap of trash, it's pretty funny actually.

I've forgotten what scoring goals looks like too. And we made a Stanley Cup with a bunch of those guys and a dynamite forward core. Hmmm.

And with the Schneid, you don't need an elite defensive core. See: 2015-2016 Devils

 

[mike30]

You guys are under valuing eberle by ALOT. Severson for him is a over payment? Eberle is def worth more than severson imo

 

[Sascha Goc]

Despite some warts to his game, I would LOVE to get Eberle here. Guy who perennially scores 20 G 60 P, in his mid 20s and is a RW.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Despite some warts to his game, I would LOVE to get Eberle here. Guy who perennially scores 20 G 60 P, in his mid 20s and is a RW.

I can be convinced otherwise, but Eberle strikes me as one of those players that if they're not scoring goals they're pretty useless, and that he doesn't score enough goals for it to be worth anyone else's while. Basically, he seems to be a better version of Michael Ryder in his prime. A player who you definitely would want, but I wouldn't give up a ton to get him.

I would much rather take the risk on Drouin's upside than what we know Eberle is. Eberle also isn't that far away from being a UFA if I'm not mistaken.

 

[MadDevil]

He's got 3 more years after this one on his current contract.

 

[Sascha Goc]

I can be convinced otherwise, but Eberle strikes me as one of those players that if they're not scoring goals they're pretty useless, and that he doesn't score enough goals for it to be worth anyone else's while. Basically, he seems to be a better version of Michael Ryder in his prime. A player who you definitely would want, but I wouldn't give up a ton to get him.

I would much rather take the risk on Drouin's upside than what we know Eberle is. Eberle also isn't that far away from being a UFA if I'm not mistaken.

You could say the same if not more about Drouin Eberle is signed through 2019 and would slot in nicely to that 1RW and hopefully the structure here would help vs Edmonton's disaster.

All that said I really do not want to give Severson up in any type of deal lol.

 

[R8Devs]

This. We are overpaying for Eberle by sending just Severson. Never mind Severson + but I would definitely consider sending Severson for RNH or doing something for Drastili (which I don't see happening)

I don't think it's overpaying. Eberle should rightly be worth a good amount I just don't know if we should use a prime asset on that type of player in the current state the devils are in.

 

[Unknown Caller]

I've forgotten what scoring goals looks like too. And we made a Stanley Cup with a bunch of those guys and a dynamite forward core. Hmmm.

And with the Schneid, you don't need an elite defensive core. See: 2015-2016 Devils

Agreed. Elite defensive units don't win cups anymore. Sorry for the old time fans that don't want to admit it. You need one elite defenseman and another very good guy to pair with him. The rest of your defenseman don't need to be anything special. An elite forward unit is essential.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Eberle is good but I don't thonk of him as elite.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

I'm prepared for basically nothing. We'll end up moving Stemp to Pitt for a 2nd and Plotnikov and that'll be it.

*jaw drops*

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Eberle is good but I don't thonk of him as elite.

He's probably good enough to the 2nd best or at least third best offensive player on most teams in the NHL. He's not gonna carry anyone to a cup, but he'd play a big role on any team in the league.

 

[Devils Trap]

Schlemko ??

 

[EnglishDevil]

I'm not expecting anything today regardless, pretty sure Shero is smart enough to know that teams are only going to get more desperate the closer the clock runs to 3pm tomorrow.

Schlemko and Stempniak are both good and affordable, i guarantee plenty of teams are interested in both. Might as well wait until the last minute and let teams bid against each other for their services.

 

[Devils Army]

Schlemko for Ritchie or maybe Hintz and a mid round or
Schlemko+2nd+the conditional 3rd that Toronto owes us for Guryanov

Those might be off in value, just a thought

 

[HischierSeDgewOrk]

I'm not expecting anything today regardless, pretty sure Shero is smart enough to know that teams are only going to get more desperate the closer the clock runs to 3pm tomorrow.

Schlemko and Stempniak are both good and affordable, i guarantee plenty of teams are interested in both. Might as well wait until the last minute and let teams bid against each other for their services.

You have to be careful with that as well. Sometimes most teams got what they wanted and you are left hanging. Happened with Garth Snow trading Vanek. Ended up with a 2nd rounder plus prospect when he probably could have had 1st if he dealt him earlier.
Very tricky.