Speculation: 2016 NHL Entry Draft Discussion (Part II)

[YWGinYYZ]

Continued from: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1941879

Some posts from the previous thread to get us started:

I'm not so sure we should spend a 1st rounder on him when there are still some more interesting prospects to likely be on the board including some high scoring but smallish forwards and a number of safer defencemen. He could very well be available in the early 2nd and we could snag him there. I agree he would be an interesting pickup but not in the late 1st.

Trading one or both of them would be favourable I think. Enstrom will likely regress a bit over the next few years, he may be a prime trade target.

Let's look at it like this. He's a linebacker playing left defence. He's an exceptional skater. His past is very rough for a young kid: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juni...yer-sean-day-opens-up-about-life-off-the-ice/

Expectations on him are low. He's a talent and those lowered expectations will help him make his way. Finally he'll have the right type of motivation! He will bloom once he gets to stable ground and if he's simply a defensive defensemen we win big. Really big. Late 1st rounders are a real gamble and IMHO he will be a great bet! Believe in the day we draft Day!

But he could very well still be there by the time our 2nd rounder rolls around. I'd prefer to take a chance on one of the small forwards or a big guy like Brown or Stanley if they are there.

Safter defencemen yes, but we may already have our quota of high scoring smallish forwards.

Nic Petan is probably the smallest we have. Can never hurt to have another. Tampa has been stocking up on guys like these and it's paying off. It depends on a lot of factors like whose available and who we have already taken.

Day is the kind of kid that was given exceptional status entirely for his size. He wasn't even the highest scoring young defencemen on his team or league that year. He really hasn't done anything to deserve his rankings and there are still a number of defencemen I would take over him in the first. He is incredibly high risk/high reward. We're not really in a place yet IMO that we can spend a 1st rounder gambling on him. A 2nd I'd be okay with. A first is to much of a gamble at this point considering we really need to stockpile our prospect pool for a contending run in a few years.

I wouldn't mind that once the left side is strong enough. If he would waive his NMC I would consider trading him but I see him signing for another couple of years at a salary apprpriate for a veteran 3rd pair D. He may have other ideas of course.

Our 2nd is liable to be within 5 or 6 picks of the Chi 1st. I don't want to throw it away on a high risk pick either. And we don't have a 3rd.

Sean Day is a top 5 pick at 2017 draft in NHL 16 IIRC. Ain't that something?

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[kylbaz]

I just hope we don't end up with something like 7+, that would be disappointing. I don't expect #1, 2-4 would be nice.

 

[leafster7]

Laine vs. Puljujarvi: who is better for us?

If the Jets finish 2nd or 3rd on the draft lottery order which of these two Finns is better for us?

Laine is more of a tougher player with an edge.

Puljuvarvi is more skilled and refined with better speed.

 

[Daximus]

I just hope we don't end up with something like 7+, that would be disappointing. I don't expect #1, 2-4 would be nice.

If we finish 2nd last we guarantee ourselves a top 5 pick.

 

[MardyBum]

I'd probably want Laine. More of a finisher. We don't lack play makers on the wing.

Dat shot.

 

[ellismate]

I'd be ecstatic with either, and during wjc pul looked like the better of the two, but the scouts all say laine is the one to go with so I'll just blindly follow. But yeah, they both seem like you can't go wrong with them.

 

[Daximus]

If the Jets finish 2nd or 3rd on the draft lottery order which of these two Finns is better for us?

Laine is more of a tougher player with an edge.

Puljuvarvi is more skilled and refined with better speed.

Laine. We lack a true goalscorer. Laine is just that. We hope Connor becomes one but it's nice to have at least two high end finishers in the system. If they both pan out then even better.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

l have a bad feeling that Vancouver and Arizona are both going to tank hard and blow past us to a better draft seeding.

I have a good feeling that the Jets scouting staff will pick well for us somewhere in the top 10 picks.

The only way that Conner does not remain our top rated prospect this summer, is if we win one of the 3 lottery draws for the draft.

Mathews

The two Finns

Tkachuk would be a good consolation pick if we do not get one of the lottery picks. With his Winnipeg/Jets/dad connection and all this Heritage stuff happening this October. (and this Tkachuk statement is not my endorsement as Tkachuk as the 4 th over all pick.)

 

[Channelcat]

Some of you guys have really been pushing for Dubois and I must admit I'm really liking this guy more and more. Maybe he even works his way into the conversation for top 3?

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Some of you guys have really been pushing for Dubois and I must admit I'm really liking this guy more and more. Maybe he even works his way into the conversation for top 3?

Possibly, but I personally was thinking that if we're picking 5-8th or so and Dubois is on the board, I'd probably be very tempted to choose him. Not sure he's going to surge that far up the rankings that he ends up being a "consensus" top 3.

 

[Daximus]

Some of you guys have really been pushing for Dubois and I must admit I'm really liking this guy more and more. Maybe he even works his way into the conversation for top 3?

He already has in a number of scouts lists.

 

[Daximus]

Possibly, but I personally was thinking that if we're picking 5-8th or so and Dubois is on the board, I'd probably be very tempted to choose him. Not sure he's going to surge that far up the rankings that he ends up being a "consensus" top 3.

I think he'll go top 5 on draft day.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I can see Dubois going 3 but not 2nd. I think Matthews/Laine have 1/2 wrapped up. After it is just want you value more in a prospect

 

[Grind]

I can see Dubois going 3 but not 2nd. I think Matthews/Laine have 1/2 wrapped up. After it is just want you value more in a prospect

agreed.

Mathews and Laine are both clearly a cut above.

Pulji is likely a step up, but it's not as drastic as the other two, and PLD is more likely to pan out as a center the Pulji.

I doubt it happens, but if PLD has a huge playoff or a mem cup run i could see him causing a ruckus in that area.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

agreed.

Mathews and Laine are both clearly a cut above.

Pulji is likely a step up, but it's not as drastic as the other two, and PLD is more likely to pan out as a center the Pulji.

I doubt it happens, but if PLD has a huge playoff or a mem cup run i could see him causing a ruckus in that area.

At best we have the chance to draft him. At worst he pushes someone else down. Maybe we get Pulju or Chych as a result of him rising.

 

[Channelcat]

Just a little speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets take a hard look at Logan Brown later in the first. We know they have a big bias towards the 2nd generation names and at 6.5 215, he's one of the biggest kids in the draft. Imagine Adam Lowry with a high playmaking ability, thats sort of how he's been billed anyway.

 

[Daximus]

Just a little speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets take a hard look at Logan Brown later in the first. We know they have a big bias towards the 2nd generation names and at 6.5 215, he's one of the biggest kids in the draft. Imagine Adam Lowry with a high playmaking ability, thats sort of how he's been billed anyway.

Him and Stanley are both pretty intriguing as big men that could be solid players or pure busts.

 

[Aavco Cup]

How badly will Montreal want PLD? Would they look to trade up to get him?

 

[Daximus]

How badly will Montreal want PLD? Would they look to trade up to get him?

Do they still heavily value Quebec born players like they used too?
Doubt they'd be willing to offer any value if so.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Do they still heavily value Quebec born players like they used too?
Doubt they'd be willing to offer any value if so.

They are in dire need of a center. The french factor is still huge in that city.

 

[Grind]

Just a little speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets take a hard look at Logan Brown later in the first. We know they have a big bias towards the 2nd generation names and at 6.5 215, he's one of the biggest kids in the draft. Imagine Adam Lowry with a high playmaking ability, thats sort of how he's been billed anyway.

Logan Brown would be a great pick up in the 25 range...I actually doubt he falls that far.

He's a great big kid and his scoring is pretty damn good.

Compares very closely to Danny Heatley, Jeff Carter, Corey Perry, Anthony Mantha, and Mikhail Grigorenko in his draft year.

Would be very happy with a guy like that.

Logan Stanley on the other hand...no. Just another big dman who doesn't put up points. Don't waste a 1st-2nd round pick on a guy like that.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Would love Logan Brown with out 2nd 1st round pick. I doubt he is around though

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Where does a guy like Clayton Keller fall 2? Kid has some crazy skills, I dunno, If i'm the Jets and i'm picking 5th or later, he's a guy i'd strongly consider. Seems like a Jets type of player.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I think he goes probably anywhere from 7 to 15.

I don't see anyone taking him over Matthews/Laine/Puljujarvi/PLD/Chychrun/Tkachuk

 

[csk]

Logan Brown would be a great pick up in the 25 range...I actually doubt he falls that far.

He's a great big kid and his scoring is pretty damn good.

Compares very closely to Danny Heatley, Jeff Carter, Corey Perry, Anthony Mantha, and Mikhail Grigorenko in his draft year.

Would be very happy with a guy like that.

Logan Stanley on the other hand...no. Just another big dman who doesn't put up points. Don't waste a 1st-2nd round pick on a guy like that.

I'm calling now that Brown goes top 15