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Bob Stauffer

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Just to confirm Jason Fram and Cole Sanford saw action this week as Alberta played a couple of games vs. NAIT and Grant MacEwen, Edmonton-based College teams

Fram, a right shot D, is a first-pairing CIS defenceman IMO. He had 57 and 62 point seasons in the WHL with Spokane.
Sanford scored 41 and 50 goals in his last two WHL seasons.

Bears GM Stan Marple has had a stellar recruiting year!

Fram joins 6'3" 220 pound Ryan Rehill and 6'4" 215 pound Grame Craig as legit top four D that have been brought in.

Up front Sanford is the second 50 goal scorer out of the WHL that has come to program this year, joining Todd Fiddler, who was red-shirting and was activated in late November.

Sanford's center out of Medicine Hat, Trevor Cox had had 109 points during the 2014-15 season, Tyson Baille (43-52-95 with Kelowna last season), and Luke Philp (77 and 82 point seasons in the WHL)- all three project as top 6 CIS forwards.


Goaltender Brendan Burke (Sean's son) will inevitably become Alberta's #1 netminder. Frankly it was quite surprising to see Luke Siemens get both starts at Saskatchewan in late November when Burke has clearly out-played him so far.

Alberta has had an underwhelming season to date. The team does not play with near the same structure and process that Ian Herber's elite squad's did from 2012-13 to 2014-15 when Herbers went 119-19 at Alberta and won back-to-back CIS Titles.

Marple has given Bears Head Coach Serge Lajoie better higher end players to work with then Herbers had. Alberta has a home-friendly second half schedule; I fully expect a much better second half.

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3 questions!
1. How many GM's are there in the CIS?
2. Do see this as a trending thing?
3. Did Boob just call out the present U of A coach?
Happy New Year everyone.
 
FreddyFoyle

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The UNB Varsity Reds have had a GM for a long time - Roger Shannon.

Shannon's other time commitments (he's currently the GM of the Moncton Wildcats of the QMJHL) factor into how much time he can spend on the V-Reds, but he has been around the team almost as long as coach Gardiner MacDougall. He and MacDougall started the V-Reds Prospects spring hockey program, which is now yielding current players for UNB.

UNB also has a volunteer "Director of Player Personnel", Dylan Taylor. Taylor is a former captain and one-time head coach of the UPEI Panthers. He is now a teacher in PEI and is in charge of UNB's scouting. He is one reason why UNB is able to steal Islanders, such as Stephen Anderson, away from UPEI.
 
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Bob Stauffer said:
Just to confirm Jason Fram and Cole Sanford saw action this week as Alberta played a couple of games vs. NAIT and Grant MacEwen, Edmonton-based College teams

Fram, a right shot D, is a first-pairing CIS defenceman IMO. He had 57 and 62 point seasons in the WHL with Spokane.
Sanford scored 41 and 50 goals in his last two WHL seasons.

Bears GM Stan Marple has had a stellar recruiting year!

Fram joins 6'3" 220 pound Ryan Rehill and 6'4" 215 pound Grame Craig as legit top four D that have been brought in.

Up front Sanford is the second 50 goal scorer out of the WHL that has come to program this year, joining Todd Fiddler, who was red-shirting and was activated in late November.

Sanford's center out of Medicine Hat, Trevor Cox had had 109 points during the 2014-15 season, Tyson Baille (43-52-95 with Kelowna last season), and Luke Philp (77 and 82 point seasons in the WHL)- all three project as top 6 CIS forwards.


Goaltender Brendan Burke (Sean's son) will inevitably become Alberta's #1 netminder. Frankly it was quite surprising to see Luke Siemens get both starts at Saskatchewan in late November when Burke has clearly out-played him so far.

Alberta has had an underwhelming season to date. The team does not play with near the same structure and process that Ian Herber's elite squad's did from 2012-13 to 2014-15 when Herbers went 119-19 at Alberta and won back-to-back CIS Titles.

Marple has given Bears Head Coach Serge Lajoie better higher end players to work with then Herbers had. Alberta has a home-friendly second half schedule; I fully expect a much better second half.

Stauffer[/QUOTE
So, Alberta adds basically 3 top end recruits for the second half.
Outside of Sask and Alberta, It will be a challenge for anyone in that conference to make it to Nationals.
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FreddtFoyle said:
The UNB Varsity Reds have had a GM for a long time - Roger Shannon.

Shannon's other time commitments (he's currently the GM of the Moncton Wildcats of the QMJHL) factor into how much time he can spend on the V-Reds, but he has been around the team almost as long as coach Gardiner MacDougall. He and MacDougall started the V-Reds Prospects spring hockey program, which is now yielding current players for UNB.
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I have always kind of wondered about the dynamic between MacDougall and Shannon. I assume at the end of the day MacDougall ultimately decides what players to target and does the majority of the recruiting itself (talking to players/watching games/visits/etc)?
 

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Are foregin players (from europe) eligible to play at CIS ? :)

thnx in advance :)
 

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kulenova seka said:
Are foregin players (from europe) eligible to play at CIS ? :)

thnx in advance :)
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In short, yes they are. But it can be complicated depending on the school. If a player is a duel citizen or resident of Canada, it becomes a lot easier, but there are a few players currently in the league from European countries.

Acadia: Daniel Pettersson, Toronto CAN (SWE duel citizenship)

Brock: Milan Doczy, Zlin CZE

Laurentian: Nicolas Thommen, Wuerenlos, SUI
Laurentian: Vincent Llorca, Clermont-Ferrand, FRA (CAN duel citizenship)

Lethbridge: Artsiom Kalashnikov, Minsk BLR (CAN duel citizenship)

Western: Jed Rusk, Quebec (Hungarian duel citizenship)
 
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kulenova seka said:
Are foregin players (from europe) eligible to play at CIS ? :)

thnx in advance :)
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While obvious, first you have to be accepted into the Canadian university where you wish to play hockey. All international students have to meet each school's academic requirements to be a full-time student, including the necessary English scores.

Second, if you have played any professional hockey (including minor pro) after you turned 20 years old, you would be required to sit out a year ("red-shirt"), or 365 days from your last professional game, in order to regain your amateur status.

Within the last 15 years UNB has had two different Swedes, and a Finn, play for them. They were NOT duel citizens.
 
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kulenova seka said:
Are foregin players (from europe) eligible to play at CIS ? :)
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As you have seen from the responses above - it is possible to play Hockey in the CIS while not a Canadian citizen (note: even players from America are considered 'international' students from the viewpoint of the CIS).

A. Tuition costs are higher for 'international' students, so be sure you know how much it costs.

B. Acceptance is based on each school's own academic criteria.

C. Eligibility to play Varsity Hockey is determine as follows:

CIS Eligibility Policy - 40.10.6.2.1.7.3.1
Participation in a regular season or playoff game of a professional league, inclusive of all European Hockey Leagues in any division, is subject to the charging of eligibility and participation in CIS competition is prohibited within one year of participation (participation in a training camp or pre-season exhibition games is exempt from this policy), unless such participation takes place prior to December 31 of the year the athlete turns 21.

Four(4) things to note here:
1. Any league pretty much means any organized league.
2. The one year ban is what Dave refers to as the 365 rule. You can't play any sooner than 365 days after your last 'pro' game.
3. You loose 1-year for CIS Eligibility for each year you play pro after the age of 21.
4. There is no eligibility penalty for playing pro provided you're 21 on Dec of the year you enter the CIS. This is common for North American players who play ECHL or AHL after their junior career is done. They enter the CIS league at Christmas and play right away provided they are 21 at the time. If you're 22, you have to wait a year to play.

So, in short, you can play. Try and decide before you turn 22.

Finally - teams are allowed to provide financial assistance to a player up to the school's Tuition amount. The team is under no obligation to provide such assistance.

Good Luck
 

kulenova seka

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Thank You for promising answers. Don't be suprised if Croatia gets their first player in CIS history :)
 

kulenova seka

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First Croatian born maybe. :handclap:

Check out Michael Ouzas's Bio. He was born in Canada, but I believe his father is Croatian.

Look forward to seeing you. All the best.
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Ouzas played for my team (Medvescak) for two seasons, he was very good. :)

It won't be me, but one friend of mine, much younger. Good kid, captain material :)
 

MiamiHockey

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As you have seen from the responses above - it is possible to play Hockey in the CIS while not a Canadian citizen (note: even players from America are considered 'international' students from the viewpoint of the CIS).

A. Tuition costs are higher for 'international' students, so be sure you know how much it costs.

B. Acceptance is based on each school's own academic criteria.

C. Eligibility to play Varsity Hockey is determine as follows:

CIS Eligibility Policy - 40.10.6.2.1.7.3.1
Participation in a regular season or playoff game of a professional league, inclusive of all European Hockey Leagues in any division, is subject to the charging of eligibility and participation in CIS competition is prohibited within one year of participation (participation in a training camp or pre-season exhibition games is exempt from this policy), unless such participation takes place prior to December 31 of the year the athlete turns 21.

Four(4) things to note here:
1. Any league pretty much means any organized league.
2. The one year ban is what Dave refers to as the 365 rule. You can't play any sooner than 365 days after your last 'pro' game.
3. You loose 1-year for CIS Eligibility for each year you play pro after the age of 21.
4. There is no eligibility penalty for playing pro provided you're 21 on Dec of the year you enter the CIS. This is common for North American players who play ECHL or AHL after their junior career is done. They enter the CIS league at Christmas and play right away provided they are 21 at the time. If you're 22, you have to wait a year to play.

So, in short, you can play. Try and decide before you turn 22.

Finally - teams are allowed to provide financial assistance to a player up to the school's Tuition amount. The team is under no obligation to provide such assistance.

Good Luck
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If they played in the CHL, the international vs. domestic tuition delineation becomes a bit of a moot point, as the CHL scholarship covers tuition, book, and other compulsory fees.
 
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