GDT: 2016-17 Training Camp and Preseason Thread

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Yes lads and lassies, it is that time of the year again! This year in particular will be interesting with Bednar coming in and getting a very fresh and new look at the players. He will obviously have different opinion on players compared to Roy and even Sakic have. Additionally, because of the World Cup of Money is taking place at the same time, Avs will be shorthanded a handful of stars. This will only give other players a better chance to show what they can do from 7th round pick to a PTO. I will update this once I have more time to update.

ROOKIE & TRAINING CAMP
Rookie Camp: ACCOMPLISHED
Rookie Tournament: ACCOMPLISHED (Champions!)
Medicals & Physicals: ACCOMPLISHED
Main Training Camp: ACCOMPLISHED

LOCATION
Rookie Tournament: [Location]
Main Camp: [Location]
Burgundy & White Game: [Location]

BURGUNDY vs WHITE GAME
http://avalanche.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=890725

ROOKIE TOURNAMENT
http://avalanche.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=890973

CAMP
ROSTER
#01 Semyon Varlamov, G
#04 Tyson Barrie, D
#05 Mat Clark, D [Injured]
#06 Erik Johnson, D
#07 Johnny "Malkin" Mitchell, C
#08 Joe Colborne, C/W
#09 Matt Duchene, C
#12 Jarome Iginla, RW
#14 Blake Comeau, LW [Injured]
#16 Nikita Zadorov, D
#17 Mike Sislo, RW
#20 Ben Smith, RW
#24 Rene Bourque, RW [Professional Try-Out]
#25 Mikhail Grigorenko, C/W
#26 Trent Vogelhuber, RW
#27 Andreas Martinsen, LW
#28 Patrick Wiercioch, D
#29 Nathan MacKinnon, C/W
#31 Calvin Pickard, G
#32 Francois Beauchemin, D
#34 Carl Soderberg, C/W
#44 Eric Gelinas, D
#51 Fedor Tyutin, D
#55 Cody McLeod, LW
#57 Gabriel Bourque [Professional Try-Out]
#92 Gabriel Landeskog, LW
#96 Mikko Rantanen, RW [Injured]

CUT
#02 Mason Geertsen, D -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL [Injured]
#03 Chris Bigras, D -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#10 Joe Whitney, RW -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#11 Troy Bourke, LW -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#13 Turner Elson, C -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#15 Duncan Siemens, D -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#18 Ryan Stanton, D -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#22 Rocco Grimaldi, C -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#30 Spencer Martin, G -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#35 Nathan Lieuwan, G -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#36 Jim O'Brien, C -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#37 J.T. Compher, LW -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#38 Reid Petryk, C -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL [Injured]
#39 Julien Nantel, C -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL [Injured]
#40 Jeremy Smith, G -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#41 Cody Corbett, D -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#42 Samuel Henley, C -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#45 Sergei Boikov, D -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#46 A.J. Greer, LW -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#47 Jackson Houck, RW -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#54 Anton Lindholm, D -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#56 Cole Sanford, RW -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#59 Nicolas Meloche, D -> Olympiques de Gatineau, LHJMQ
#60 Kent Simpson, G -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#63 Jean-Christoph Beaudin, C -> Rouya-Noranda Huskies, LHJMQ
#67 Brogan O'Brien, LW -> Prince George Cougars, WHL
#68 Jeffery Truchon-Viel, LW -> Acadie-Bathurst Titan, LHJMQ
#70 Shawn St-Amant, LW -> San Antonio Rampage, AHL
#71 Gustav Olhaver, C -> Rögle BK, SuperElit
#73 Travis Barron, LW -> Ottawa 67's, OHL
#74 Filip Karlsson, C -> Rögle BK, SHL
#75 Chase Marchand, G -> St. Francis Xavier University, CIS
#76 Josh Anderson, D -> Prince George Cougars, WHL
#91 Jiri Tlusty, LW -> Free Agency [Injured]

ROOKIE TOURNAMENT
Saturday - Sep 17th [14:00 MT] San Jose Sharks 1 - 4 Colorado Avalanche
Sunday - Sep 18th [13:00 MT] Anaheim Ducks 2 - 3 Colorado Avalanche
Monday - Sep 19th [14:00 MT] San Jose Sharks 3 - 5 Anaheim Ducks

PRESEASON
Sep 27th: Colorado Avalanche 4 - 1 Minnesota Wild
Sep 30th: Los Angeles Kings 1 - 3 Colorado Avalanche
Oct 4th: Minnesota Wild 0 - 2 Colorado Avalanche
Oct 5th: Colorado Avalanche 1 - 0 Dallas Stars
Saturday - Oct 8th [20:00 MT] Colorado Avalanche @ Los Angeles Kings (In Las Vegas, NV)


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[tigervixxxen]

Soon!

 

[tigervixxxen]

Lots in town already

 

[Freudian]

While I don't mind drafting college players it means we are missing some of the players people are most curious about in rookie camp (Jost, Morrison, Clurman).

 

[Avsblitzkrieg]

Zadorov my favorite prospect ~~~~
All in all though should be fun...
Even better if they put the preseason on tv

 

[Avs_19]

That's Compher rocking the #37? He's going to become a two-way beast for us, change his number, and then get traded.

 

[ABasin]

While I don't mind drafting college players it means we are missing some of the players people are most curious about in rookie camp (Jost, Morrison, Clurman).

Meloche is the one I'd like to see. A lot of upside, according to a great many posts/posters in here.

 

[tigervixxxen]

That's Compher rocking the #37? He's going to become a two-way beast for us, change his number, and then get traded.

Yeah. I see Z, Grigo, Bigras and Iggy. Duchene and McLeod were also mentioned.

Meloche is the one I'd like to see too. A lot of upside, according to a great many posts/posters in here.

I hope he gets in a real game, like preseason but B/W or the Rookie thing should be good, is where he can really do his thing.

 

[S E P H]

While I don't mind drafting college players it means we are missing some of the players people are most curious about in rookie camp (Jost, Morrison, Clurman).

Maybe I am going into dumb mode, but Clurman isn't slated to head into college until the following year. Does that also make him ineligible to try out at main camp?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

That's Compher rocking the #37? He's going to become a two-way beast for us, change his number, and then get traded.

If he changes it to 18 we'll know for sure...Might as well look at defenders they'll be targeting. Trouba?

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Lots in town already

From those pictures, EJ and Dutchy are here, so at least they got to meet the coach before leaving town. Also, EJ and Z playing together in that picture. Want to see that at camp.

If anyone is interested, Altitude stated rookies report 9/15. The rookie tourny is 9/17 and 9/18. There will probably be a rookie camp from 9/19-9/21 (maybe a day off in there). Vets report 9/22, then hit the ice from 9/23-9/25. It's about to get busy. And fun.

 

[tigervixxxen]

You've got much better eyes than me TMV, good to know!

Here's one more and with Z, obviously you've seen it lol

 

[CobraAcesS]

I'm impressed, more people voted for Bigras than I expected. I feel like he has lost his luster after not being perfect for a couple of games late last year.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Voted Bigras because it's safe. There's no way a coach doesn't love what Bigras brings. Yes Rantanen and JTC bring a solid all round game but when compared to their peers they just may not look like enough of difference makers. Bigras plays a solid all around game and is probably going to look like our 4th best defenseman at camp. With Bigras it's going to come down to if Bednar is simply taking the best team he can or if he's going to send specific players back for more minutes.

If Bednar is icing the best team possible I think Bigras plays regular minutes for a full season next year.

 

[Ararana]

I voted Mikko. Just put him on the right side of either Duchene or MacKinnon and watch the magic happen

Hopefully Roy leaving means the end of Mikko at center

 

[henchman21]

Voted Bigras because it's safe. There's no way a coach doesn't love what Bigras brings. Yes Rantanen and JTC bring a solid all round game but when compared to their peers they just may not look like enough of difference makers. Bigras plays a solid all around game and is probably going to look like our 4th best defenseman at camp. With Bigras it's going to come down to if Bednar is simply taking the best team he can or if he's going to send specific players back for more minutes.

If Bednar is icing the best team possible I think Bigras plays regular minutes for a full season next year.

I'd love for this to happen, but I don't think Bigras will show significantly better than Wiercioch or Gelinas in camp. He might be slightly better, but given the contracts and the fact that the other two are reclamation projects... I think the other two get a shot first.

The way I see it, Bigras would have to be a few levels above Wier and Gelinas to get the final playing spot. I'd say the odds of that are low.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I'd love for this to happen, but I don't think Bigras will show significantly better than Wiercioch or Gelinas in camp. He might be slightly better, but given the contracts and the fact that the other two are reclamation projects... I think the other two get a shot first.

The way I see it, Bigras would have to be a few levels above Wier and Gelinas to get the final playing spot. I'd say the odds of that are low.

That's exactly what I mean. If Bednar refuses to look at situations and simply looks at who's best, Bigras makes the team. When he starts taking other things into consideration it makes that narrow gap that Bigras may hold over those guys start to go the other way.

 

[henchman21]

That's exactly what I mean. If Bednar refuses to look at situations and simply looks at who's best, Bigras makes the team. When he starts taking other things into consideration it makes that narrow gap that Bigras may hold over those guys start to go the other way.

Well, those decisions are never made in a vacuum. Not only are contracts a consideration, but Bigras' development is too. Is it better for him to start the season with the Avs, play as the #6 on this team, getting rotated out sometimes (especially early), and getting ~50-60 games... or go down to the Rampage for ~20-30 games, play as the #1 there, and then come up to the Avs as the #6 (or maybe #4/5 if injuries hit) and play ~40-50 games?

I don't honestly think that Bigras is a better player right now than either Gelinas or Wiercioch. Each has their positives and negatives... Bigras is better defensively and maybe a slightly better puck mover (Wier is pretty close there), but he isn't an asset on the PP and doesn't have the frame to play a physical game if needed. Now if we are talking about next season (or even by the middle of this season), I think Bigras will be a significantly better player than either.

 

[StayAtHomeAv]

I'd love for this to happen, but I don't think Bigras will show significantly better than Wiercioch or Gelinas in camp. He might be slightly better, but given the contracts and the fact that the other two are reclamation projects... I think the other two get a shot first.

The way I see it, Bigras would have to be a few levels above Wier and Gelinas to get the final playing spot. I'd say the odds of that are low.

If everything we have heard about the new system is true I feel Bigras has great odds at sticking around. Quick decisions and accurate passing. That's Bigras' game. He is probably the best passer we've got back there.

 

[henchman21]

The decisions with the puck are pretty scripted and the passes are short, easy passes. I'd say that actually hurts Bigras' chances as it narrows the gap between him and Gelinas... maybe negates the difference between him and Wiercioch.

 

[AvalancheFan19]

I know we didn't see much Gelinas last year but what I did see I disliked very much. He handled the puck in his own end like a frag grenade. Maybe with a better system he'll improve but I'd much rather have Bigras up than him. I won't hold my breath for Wiercioch either. Nonethless, I agree with Henchman's stance on contracts and what potentially could be better for Bigras' development, which is huge for us. In Bednar I trust.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

PW moves the puck well guys. Like really well.

 

[henchman21]

I'm fully expecting Wiercioch to play next to Barrie and that pairing will be used to push the puck and in a lot of offensive situations. I believe it will be quite effective too. It won't be ideal, but I see Wiercioch doing decently in a role that will be over his head.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Bigras should be in consideration for the pp, that's one of the things he does best.

I think they'll try to find room for Bigras on the roster, especially if they keep 8D. With 7 it might be tougher. I know everyone assumes the easy thing is to send him down but that would have been the easy thing last year too.

 

[Freudian]

Voted Bigras because it's safe. There's no way a coach doesn't love what Bigras brings. Yes Rantanen and JTC bring a solid all round game but when compared to their peers they just may not look like enough of difference makers. Bigras plays a solid all around game and is probably going to look like our 4th best defenseman at camp. With Bigras it's going to come down to if Bednar is simply taking the best team he can or if he's going to send specific players back for more minutes.

If Bednar is icing the best team possible I think Bigras plays regular minutes for a full season next year.

Also, if Bednar wants the defense to be quick on pucks a good skater with high hockey IQ is suited for effective puck retrieval.