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All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

2016-17 salary ceiling​
|
73,000,000​
Pens' projected spending |
76,299,999​
Approx. LTIR cushion |
3,750,000​
Approx. cap space |
450,001​



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
2017-18
|
2018-19

Evgeni Malkin|
C​
|
30​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|
C​
|
28​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|
RW​
|
28​
|
6,800,000​
|
6,800,000​
|
6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|
RW​
|
29​
|
4,250,000​
|
4,250,000​
|
UFA

Carl Hagelin|
LW​
|
27​
|
4,000,000​
|
4,000,000​
|
4,000,000​

Chris Kunitz|
LW​
|
36​
|
3,850,000​
|
UFA

Eric Fehr|
RW​
|
30​
|
2,000,000​
|
2,000,000​
|
UFA

Nick Bonino|
C​
|
28​
|
1,900,000​
|
UFA

Matt Cullen|
C​
|
39​
|
1,000,000​
|
UFA

Oskar Sundqvist|
C​
|
22​
|
700,833​
|
RFA

Conor Sheary|
LW​
|
24​
|
667,500​
|
RFA

Bryan Rust|
RW​
|
24​
|
640,000​
|
640,000​
|
RFA

Scott Wilson|
LW​
|
24​
|
625,000​
|
625,000​
|
RFA

Tom Kuhnhackl|
LW​
|
24​
|
625,000​
|
625,000​
|
RFA
Defense.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
2017-18
|
.2018-19

Kris Letang|
D​
|
29​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​

Olli Maatta|
D​
|
21​
|
4,083,333​
|
4,083,333​
|
4,083,333​

Trevor Daley|
D​
|
32​
|
3,300,000​
|
UFA

Ian Cole|
D​
|
27​
|
2,100,000​
|
2,100,000​
|
UFA

Justin Schultz|
D​
|
26​
|
1,400,000​
|
RFA

Derrick Pouliot|
D​
|
22​
|
863,333​
|
RFA

Brian Dumoulin|
D​
|
24​
|
800,000​
|
RFA
Goalie............,.......
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
2017-18
|
.2018-19

Marc-Andre Fleury|
G​
|
31​
|
5,750,000​
|
5,750,000​
|
5,750,000​

Matt Murray|
G​
|
22​
|
620,000​
|
RFA
Injured reserve.....
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
2017-18
|
.2018-19

Pascal Dupuis|
RW​
|
37​
|
3,750,000​
|
UFA
Retained salary.....
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
2017-18
|
.2018-19

Rob Scuderi|
D​
|
37​
|
1,125,000​



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
2017-18
|
2018-19

Thomas Di Pauli|
C​
|
22​
|
742,500​
|
742,500​
|
RFA

Jake Guentzel|
LW​
|
21​
|
734,167​
|
734,167​
|
734,167​

Teddy Blueger|
C​
|
21​
|
705,000​
|
705,000​
|
RFA

Dominik Simon|
C​
|
21​
|
692,500​
|
692,500​
|
RFA

Josh Archibald|
RW​
|
23​
|
659,167​
|
RFA

Carter Rowney|
RW​
|
26​
|
612,500​
|
612,500​
|
UFA

Jean-Sebastien Dea|
C​
|
22​
|
585,000​
|
RFA

Kevin Porter|
C​
|
30​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Garrett Wilson|
LW​
|
25​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Tom Sestito|
LW​
|
28​
|
575,000​
|
UFA
Defense...............
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
2017-18
|
2018-19

Ethan Prow|
D​
|
23​
|
730,000​
|
730,000​
|
RFA

Lukas Bengtsson|
D​
|
22​
|
705,000​
|
705,000​
|
RFA

David Warsofsky|
D​
|
26​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Steve Oleksy|
D​
|
30​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Chad Ruhwedel|
D​
|
26​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Cameron Gaunce|
D​
|
26​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Stuart Percy|
D​
|
23​
|
575,000​
|
RFA

Tim Erixon|
D​
|
25​
|
575,000​
|
RFA

Reid McNeill|
D​
|
24​
|
575,000​
|
RFA
Goalie..................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
2017-18
|
2018-19

Sean Maguire|
G​
|
23​
|
705,000​
|
705,000​
|
RFA

Tristan Jarry|
G​
|
21​
|
589,167​
|
589,167​
|
RFA



UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player........................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
News and notes

Justin Schultz|
D​
|
25​
|
3,900,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $1.4M)

Ben Lovejoy|
D​
|
32​
|
1,100,000​
| Signed with New Jersey (3 years, $2.67M per)

Tyler Biggs|
RW​
|
23​
|
894,167​
|Hard to imagine why Brian Burke isn't a GM any more

Matt Cullen|
C​
|
39​
|
800,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $1M)

Matthias Plachta|
RW​
|
25​
|
743,000​
| Signed with Adler Mannheim (DEL)

Harrison Ruopp|
D​
|
23​
|
650,833​
|Scratched for majority of the season in WBS

James Melindy|
D​
|
22​
|
641,667​
| Signed with Wichita (ECHL)

Dan O'Donoghue|
LW​
|
25​
|
635,000​
|Empty jersey obtained for Marcantuoni

Niclas Andersen|
D​
|
28​
|
625,000​
| Signed with Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg (KHL)

Anton Zlobin|
LW​
|
23​
|
608,333​
| Signed with Dynamo Moskva (KHL)

Jeff Zatkoff|
G​
|
28​
|
600,000​
| Signed with Los Angeles (2 years, $900k per)

Kevin Porter|
C​
|
30​
|
575,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k, 2-way)

Dustin Jeffrey|
C​
|
28​
|
575,000​
| Signed with Lausanne HC (NLA)

Will O'Neill|
D​
|
28​
|
575,000​
| Signed with Philadelphia (2 years, $612k, 2-way)

Steve Oleksy|
D​
|
30​
|
575,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k, 2-way)

Kael Mouillierat|
LW​
|
28​
|
575,000​
| Signed with Luleå HF (SHL)

Tom Sestito|
LW​
|
28​
|
575,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k, 2-way)



RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player........................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
News and notes

Beau Bennett|
RW​
|
24​
|
800,000​
| Traded to New Jersey for 3rd-round pick

Tim Erixon|
D​
|
25​
|
600,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k, 2-way)

Dominik Uher|
C​
|
23​
|
575,000​
| Signed with HC Sparta Praha (ELH), Pens retain rights



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team
|
Contract

Daniel Sprong|
F​
|
19​
|
Charlottetown (QMJHL)​
|
2 years, $692,500 per​



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player​
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team (League)

Niclas Almari|
D​
|
18​
|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|
F​
|
20​
|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|
D​
|
20​
|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|
F​
|
18​
|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|
F​
|
21​
|Maine (HEA)

Filip Gustavsson|
G​
|
18​
|Luleå HF (SHL)

Connor Hall|
D​
|
18​
|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|
D​
|
20​
|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|
F​
|
22​
|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|
F​
|
21​
|Brown (ECAC)

Joe Masonius|
D​
|
19​
|Connecticut (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|
F​
|
19​
|Penn State (B1G)

Alexander Pechurskiy|
G​
|
26​
|Amur Khabarovsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|
D​
|
21​
|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|
D​
|
22​
|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|
F​
|
21​
|Western Michigan (NCHC)

Dominik Uher|
C​
|
23​
|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

**Note: Recently signed Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins RW Ryan Haggerty is not included as I couldn't find his actual cap hit. Once this is available, the chart will be updated**
 

Dipsy Doodle

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May 28, 2006
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I'm just gonna re-post Rip's Bergeron quote because I think it encapsulates perfectly why a lot of skill players don't work as well with Sid as some project. I thought it was too good to get buried in the last thread:

Originally Posted by PB
True, and yet, Crosby doesn’t always mesh with linemates.

Bergeron explained that it’s important to let Crosby be the alpha figure on the ice. In other words, don’t try to do too much when you’re out there with him.

“You really have to let Sid do this thing out there,” Bergeron said. “That’s the thing. Don’t change what he’s trying to do. Don’t get in his way. He’s incredibly fast, so don’t get in his way. He’s great on the boards, so it’s important to go to work with him, because you know he’s going to win most of the puck battles down there. You go to work with him, good things will happen.”

Letting Crosby carry the puck is always wise, Bergeron continued.

“He’s so great at possessing the puck,” Bergeron said. “The great ones like him, they can always hold onto the puck for that extra second. So, with that extra second, it’s your job to find a lane and get open. If you do that, he’s so good at finding you. He’s going to find you every single time. It’s about getting open when you’re playing with him. And it’s also about playing the game you always play. You don’t want to change your style. Let him get comfortable with you and your style, and he’ll make you better. That’s how great he is.”

Unfortunately, that stubbornness in "not changing what he's trying to do" kind of limits options as far as talented wingers, and creating plays with other players as opposed to creating plays for them.
 

Ogrezilla

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Jul 5, 2009
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22,072
Pittsburgh
I'm just gonna re-post Rip's Bergeron quote because I think it encapsulates perfectly why a lot of skill players don't work as well with Sid as some project. I thought it was too good to get buried in the last thread:



Unfortunately, that stubbornness in "not changing what he's trying to do" kind of limits options as far as talented wingers, and creating plays with other players as opposed to creating plays for them.

I'm not saying what he's saying isn't fair to a point (mainly the part about Sid being the alpha carrying the puck and what that likely means with regards to Kessel), but I think you need to consider the context of this coming from another center being forced to play wing with Sid.

I think Sid can adapt what he's doing to his wings. Its certainly different playing with Dupuis and Hossa compared to playing with Kunitz and Guerin, but he looked great with both. But he can't stop being who he is. He is going to be the guy on the puck, not a guy looking to find space while someone else carries it. I think he could make that work with most wings.

Kessel is a rare kind of winger. His complete lack of a slapshot is the one thing that makes me think there's a real chance he and Sid could be less than the sum of their parts if given time together. Sid just sets up too many quick plays that Kessel would need to learn to put home. But I don't think Sid would have a problem adapting to getting Kessel the puck streaking up the wing, and then driving the net. I don't think Sid has to be the guy to carry the puck, but I do think he has to be a guy who is going for the loose puck. So is Bergeron most of the time.
 
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Empoleon8771

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I brought it up in another thread, but just for discussion's sake, let's talk about it here. Sprong's shoulder surgery means he's likely out until 2017, likely in February or so. However, I don't really think it's debatable that he's NHL ready right now and would give our top-9 a big boost down the stretch into the playoffs. Would keeping him up with the Pens while he's rehabbing and then sticking him in the top-9 be something they should look into? If they wouldn't have burned a year off his elc last year, I think I'd be all for it, but I'm not sure about burning his 2nd year to a half year at best.
 

Ogrezilla

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Jul 5, 2009
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Pittsburgh
Coming off the injury, I think sending him back to juniors to rehab it and see how it has affected him is the way to go.
 

Riptide

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I brought it up in another thread, but just for discussion's sake, let's talk about it here. Sprong's shoulder surgery means he's likely out until 2017, likely in February or so. However, I don't really think it's debatable that he's NHL ready right now and would give our top-9 a big boost down the stretch into the playoffs. Would keeping him up with the Pens while he's rehabbing and then sticking him in the top-9 be something they should look into? If they wouldn't have burned a year off his elc last year, I think I'd be all for it, but I'm not sure about burning his 2nd year to a half year at best.

NHL ready or ready to be effective/productive at the NHL level? Because while I think he can probably play here, I don't think he'd be all that productive - and certainly not after not having a full summer to train and missing half a season. Which raises the question of why burn another year of his ELC? I'd give him 9 games just because we can (especially if we have an injury or someone easy we could sit), but unless he was lighting it up and so good we couldn't send him down, I'd send him down. Let him play big minutes in all situations with his junior club and get AHL minutes once his CHL season is over. Then he can have a full summer of training and getting ready for training camp for the 17/18 season.
 

WayneSid9987

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I brought it up in another thread, but just for discussion's sake, let's talk about it here. Sprong's shoulder surgery means he's likely out until 2017, likely in February or so. However, I don't really think it's debatable that he's NHL ready right now and would give our top-9 a big boost down the stretch into the playoffs. Would keeping him up with the Pens while he's rehabbing and then sticking him in the top-9 be something they should look into? If they wouldn't have burned a year off his elc last year, I think I'd be all for it, but I'm not sure about burning his 2nd year to a half year at best.

Using Maatta as a case study, i don't think it's wise to continually throw post-surgery young kids to the NHL wolves.

He'll get his pro action when his Jr season is done again.
 

Dipsy Doodle

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I'm not saying what he's saying isn't fair to a point (mainly the part about Sid being the alpha carrying the puck and what that likely means with regards to Kessel), but I think you need to consider the context of this coming from another center being forced to play wing with Sid.

I think Sid can adapt what he's doing to his wings. Its certainly different playing with Dupuis and Hossa compared to playing with Kunitz and Guerin, but he looked great with both. But he can't stop being who he is. He is going to be the guy on the puck, not a guy looking to find space while someone else carries it. I think he could make that work with most wings.

Kessel is a rare kind of winger. His complete lack of a slapshot is the one thing that makes me think there's a real chance he and Sid could be less than the sum of their parts if given time together. Sid just sets up too many quick plays that Kessel would need to learn to put home. But I don't think Sid would have a problem adapting to getting Kessel the puck streaking up the wing, and then driving the net. I don't think Sid has to be the guy to carry the puck, but I do think he has to be a guy who is going for the loose puck. So is Bergeron most of the time.

For me, the key is that they're all meat-and-potatoes players - even a skilled possession beast like Hossa plays a fairly predictable, efficient North/South game that can be deferential to Crosby. Besides Kessel's aforementioned inability to convert on quick passes, I really do think Sid would have trouble with someone else regularly carrying the play while he searched for openings to exploit.

I'm gonna be leery of any winger with a creative element working for Crosby (and I say this knowing full well that I advocated Perron and Bennett for his line - that was because of the alternative). I'll believe it when I see it.
 

mpp9

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Dec 5, 2010
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I'm just gonna re-post Rip's Bergeron quote because I think it encapsulates perfectly why a lot of skill players don't work as well with Sid as some project. I thought it was too good to get buried in the last thread:



Unfortunately, that stubbornness in "not changing what he's trying to do" kind of limits options as far as talented wingers, and creating plays with other players as opposed to creating plays for them.

I think two qualities you need in a winger for Sid are support away from the puck (helping him get it back) and making quick reads.

I don't Kessel is very good without the puck, and while he's fast, he doesn't play as fast as Sid.

Hornqvist fits the bill more. It's just a matter of finding the right fit on LW. Sheary gives that line a bit more support carrying the puck, but if Wilson can develop into a younger Kunitz, I would think that's the type of player Sid wants more than anything.
 

Ogrezilla

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Jul 5, 2009
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For me, the key is that they're all meat-and-potatoes players - even a skilled possession beast like Hossa plays a fairly predictable, efficient North/South game that can be deferential to Crosby. Besides Kessel's aforementioned inability to convert on quick passes, I really do think Sid would have trouble with someone else regularly carrying the play while he searched for openings to exploit.

But Kessel will be looking to shoot. Sid would crash the net, not search for openings to exploit.

I'm gonna be leery of any winger with a creative element working for Crosby (and I say this knowing full well that I advocated Perron and Bennett for his line - that was because of the alternative). I'll believe it when I see it.

I wouldn't want guys who slow the play down and look for passes or trailers or whatnot. But I think shooters who carry the puck would be fine. But all things equal, I would still go with the meat and potatoes guy.

note: I'm not advocating putting Kessel with Sid actually. Hornqvist is just so much better with Sid than without him that putting him anywhere else doesn't make sense.
 

Dipsy Doodle

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But Kessel will be looking to shoot. Sid would crash the net, not search for openings to exploit.

I think we may be watching different Kessels. ;)

PK will shoot coming down the wing, but I wouldn't generally describe him as shoot-first. For a goal scorer, he goes looking for the pass an awful lot. And even if he were shoot-first, I have a hard time believing Sid would abide a "just give Phil the puck then crash the net" role for long.

I wouldn't want guys who slow the play down and look for passes or trailers or whatnot. But I think shooters who carry the puck would be fine. But all things equal, I would still go with the meat and potatoes guy.

note: I'm not advocating putting Kessel with Sid actually. Hornqvist is just so much better with Sid than without him that putting him anywhere else doesn't make sense.

I dunno. I think Sid's in his element as the field general out there, and any time someone else takes over those duties, he's uncomfortable.
 

Dipsy Doodle

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I think two qualities you need in a winger for Sid are support away from the puck (helping him get it back) and making quick reads.

I don't Kessel is very good without the puck, and while he's fast, he doesn't play as fast as Sid.

Hornqvist fits the bill more. It's just a matter of finding the right fit on LW. Sheary gives that line a bit more support carrying the puck, but if Wilson can develop into a younger Kunitz, I would think that's the type of player Sid wants more than anything.

This all seems right to me.
 

Ogrezilla

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I don't think he'd become Bonino just immediately going to Phil. But I think they would make it work very well. But as we've seen so far, they can make it work very well on separate lines too. I think they'd make a single better line than either of their split lines, but likely not by enough to make it the best setup. I'm just talking theoretical basically; not what I actually want to see us do. At least as long as Hornqvist is here and playing well, that's his spot next to Sid.
 

ColePens

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I don't see that as whining. He's just making the valid point everyone else has. If you win the president's trophy, you should get something for it and not have to play the 2nd best team in the 2nd round.
 

plaidchuck

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Same thing happened to the pens. They had to go through the caps whereas the lightning got to sleepwalk through the first two rounds.
 

Chuck Norris Trophy

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Kessel is a rare kind of winger. His complete lack of a slapshot is the one thing that makes me think there's a real chance he and Sid could be less than the sum of their parts if given time together.


And the fact that he can't complete a one-timer to save his own life.
 

Shady Machine

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Aug 6, 2010
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I brought it up in another thread, but just for discussion's sake, let's talk about it here. Sprong's shoulder surgery means he's likely out until 2017, likely in February or so. However, I don't really think it's debatable that he's NHL ready right now and would give our top-9 a big boost down the stretch into the playoffs. Would keeping him up with the Pens while he's rehabbing and then sticking him in the top-9 be something they should look into? If they wouldn't have burned a year off his elc last year, I think I'd be all for it, but I'm not sure about burning his 2nd year to a half year at best.

How is it not debatable? When is the last time you watched him play? Did he look NHL ready to give a big boost to our top 9 when you last saw him?

The kid is really talented, but he's really young and inexperienced at this level. I don't think it's smart for his development or the team on their way to a playoff run to insert him into the regular lineup. As much as I want to see him on the Pens, the smart move is to let him go back to juniors to rehab and let him play a big role in baby Pens playoffs in the spring. Then he can start with the team in 17-18.
 

Riptide

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I don't see that as whining. He's just making the valid point everyone else has. If you win the president's trophy, you should get something for it and not have to play the 2nd best team in the 2nd round.

You do get something for it - you get home ice advantage throughout the playoffs. The rest is up to you. For Pittsburgh, they had home ice in 3 of their 4 series which translated to (iirc) 13 home games out of their 24 games. That's 13 home games where the team can earn 2-3 million in revenue, and 13 home games where they get last change, and 3 series where they start in Pittsburgh. When New Jersey went to the finals (2012) we know from the bankruptcy filings that they made 32 million from the playoffs alone. They had 11/24 home games, and only had home ice in the final. The Sharks had 12/24 home games and home ice in 1 of their series - NSH.

So yeah, winning the Presidents trophy is an advantage. Is it a great one? No, and nor should it be. It shouldn't get you passes. What it does do is allows you to start every single series you play in your own arena, where hopefully you can start off on the right foot. And if you're good enough to win that, then you should be good enough to play any team in the league. But in the end, you still need to win the games you play, and Washington failed to do so (again).
 
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Empoleon8771

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Something I saw on the main board that made me laugh was that the Devils are supposedly very interested in Despres from Anaheim. I just find it funny how Shero did all he could to keep Despres out of the lineup in 2013 and 2014, yet he's interested in him with his health risks and big contract right now.
 

Malkinstheman

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According to some guy on facebook, MAF is the number 1 goalie and should have been starting for the cup. MM is an average goalie and would have a losing season anywhere else :facepalm:
 

Riptide

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According to some guy on facebook, MAF is the number 1 goalie and should have been starting for the cup. MM is an average goalie and would have a losing season anywhere else :facepalm:

I'd bet money that MAF will end up playing more games than Murray this year.
 
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