Salary Cap: 2015 offseason roster-building III | FA charts in Post #1

[Riptide]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Projected 2015-16 salary ceiling: ....71,500,000
Projected 2015-16 cap spending: ....58,595,000
Projected offseason cap space: .......12,905,000



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

28​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

27​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

28​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

35​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

David Perron|

LW​

|

26​

|

3,812,500​

|

UFA​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

35​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Brandon Sutter|

C​

|

26​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Spaling|

LW​

|

26​

|

2,200,000​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

27​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

36​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

|

UFA​

Ben Lovejoy|

D​

|

31​

|

1,100,000​

|

UFA​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

20​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

21​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

30​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Kasperi Kapanen|

RW​

|

18​

|

925,000​

|

925,000​

|

925,000​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

22​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

22​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

22​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

22​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

21​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

21​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

21​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Scott Harrington|

D​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

19​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

20​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

|

RFA​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

27​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

News and notes​

Paul Martin|

D​

|

33​

|

5,000,000​

|The rare fairly paid UFA last time around. Too pricey now

Christian Ehrhoff|

D​

|

32​

|

4,000,000​

|Will be happy to escape the voodoo curse on Pens' blueline

Daniel Winnik|

LW​

|

29​

|

1,300,000​

|Expected contract makes more sense for another team

Maxim Lapierre|

C​

|

29​

|

1,100,000​

|Reasonable fourth-line playoff center if priced right

Steve Downie|

RW​

|

27​

|

1,000,000​

|Sparkplug or outright liability with the refs?

Thomas Greiss|

G​

|

29​

|

1,000,000​

|Sure to be moving on with rest of Pens' goalies thriving

Jayson Megna|

RW​

|

25​

|

874,125​

|Group 6 UFA who doesn't have much incentive to return

Blake Comeau|

LW​

|

29​

|

700,000​

|Wrist injury kept his stats -- and his pricetag -- down

Craig Adams|

RW​

|

37​

|

700,000​

|I believe the term is "seppuku" -- Look it up, Harvard Boy

Taylor Chorney|

D​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|Apparently under consideration to bring back to the big club

Andrew Ebbett|

C​

|

32​

|

550,000​

|Token 14th/15th forward likely to look for a better shot

Bobby Farnham|

LW​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|Group 6 UFA beloved for running into people and falling down

Nick Drazenovic|

C​

|

28​

|

550,000​

|Injuries may cost him some money on his next 2-way deal

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|

RW​

|

29​

|

550,000​

|One of many casually discarded AHL goons

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

News and notes​

Beau Bennett|

RW​

|

23​

|

900,000​

|As likely to be traded as he is to be re-signed, it seems

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

23​

|

831,667​

|Pressure is on the front office to decide on his future

Ian Cole|

D​

|

26​

|

825,000​

|Imagine a trade deadline pickup that didn't embarrass

Adam Payerl|

RW​

|

24​

|

626,667​

|Doesn't bring much other than decent size

Nick D'Agostino|

D​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|Buried very, very deep on the depth chart at this point

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

22​

|

601,667​

|Has the makings of a serviceable fourth-liner

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

23​

|

598,333​

|Finally over the injury bug?

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

22​

|

575,000​

|Provides grit on an AHL blueline and not much more

Eric Hartzell|

G​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|Nice knowing you, kid

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

20​

|

SkellefteÃ¥ (SHL)​

|

3 years/708,333 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

18​

|Omaha (USHL)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

19​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

20​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

20​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

20​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

19​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

19​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

22​

|Boston University (HEA)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

24​

|Magnitogorsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

20​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

20​

|Union (ECAC)

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[Riptide]

Last few posts from old thread.

I fully expect Scuderi to be moved for the reason you mentioned. With the youth we have on defense, Dumoulin, Harrington and even Chorney are ready to replace him and are paid a lot less.

I would give them the benefit of the doubt on Kunitz, if they are right about iron deficiency, there are ways to train differently and fix that issue. He had an off year, but I don't think anyone can say he didn't produce, 17 goals and 40 points for $3.85M is pretty fair value. We lack winger depth, what do we have to lose by giving him a chance to have a better season? We can still add another top 6 guy. Kunitz had a down year, but he's still fast, I know some people want him gone, I've been indecisive about it. If he can return to what he was in the previous 3 or 4 seasons, it would end up being a great move to keep him.



They really shouldn't be bought out. While both are older players, they only have 2 years left and both make under $4M. To me, buyouts are used on players who make $6M with 4 or 5 years left. 2 years at $3.35M and $3.85M per year respectively isn't impossible to move in trades.

They can move Scuderi, I believe in giving Kunitz another year, if he fails again, he will have 1 year left, easily movable IMO, if we decide to move him this summer, it still shouldn't be difficult.

Nice to have Bombulie finally report on the big team.
And I doubt too that they will be bought-out.
Kunitz still has some value (and no NTC) and can be traded for a mid-late pick if necessary, but I don't see him going anywhere soon.
Scuderi as usual nobody wants him (at least on HFboards), but a retained salary may help some GM to take a look at him.

Actually consider the circumstances of the situation.

Sobotka requests a trade. Armstrong tells him that he won't even consider trading him. He threatens to go to the KHL. Armstrong wishes him luck and says the Blues will welcome him back when he returns, but we aren't bidding against the KHL.

Armstrong made his stance last summer, and his position has only got stronger since. Moving Sobotka, particularly for cheap, legitimises using the KHL as a bargaining chip in negotiations. With players like Jaškin and Barbashev in the system, that won't be happening.

 

[Asuna]

Pouliot for Mantha. Who says no?

 

[Sideline]

Pouliot for Mantha. Who says no?

I like Mantha, but when a senior member of an organization is **** talking a prospect publicly I get worried.

 

[Bennett Brauer]

Pouliot for Mantha. Who says no?

Lovejoy for Mantha

 

[Asuna]

Lovejoy for Mantha

Excellent.

 

[Bennett Brauer]

Excellent.

Hey, they need a RHD, if they strike out on Mike Green and Jeff Petry, then...

Can't expect a lot for a guy who's organization is disappointed in him, right?

 

[Beauner]

As much as we want Scuds and Kunitz gone I just don't see it happening. Nothing management has done or said gives me confidence that they'll be gone

 

[Asuna]

Hey, they need a RHD, if they strike out on Mike Green and Jeff Petry, then...

Can't expect a lot for a guy who's organization is disappointed in him, right?

If Despres > Mantha

And Lovejoy > Despres

Then Lovejoy > Mantha

Do it JR.

 

[mpp9]

After watching that Wild series and seeing Niederreiter be one of their most effective forwards, maybe Yakupov could be that type of player here? He's not as big, but he's just as fast and an even better finisher. Give him protected minutes with Geno.

He's not worth what it would have costed to get the 1st overall back when he was drafted, but if EDM would do a deal that's based around improving how their team is built instead of value, maybe it's worth the risk.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

I like Mantha, but when a senior member of an organization is **** talking a prospect publicly I get worried.

Kind of like how our organization ran a smear campaign about Despres--and now he's getting huge minutes on a juggernaut out west?

 

[Bennett Brauer]

As much as we want Scuds and Kunitz gone I just don't see it happening. Nothing management has done or said gives me confidence that they'll be gone

Trust me on this one, Rob Scuderi will not be in a Pittsburgh Penguins uniform next season.

Letang
Maatta
Cole (RFA)
Pouliot
Dumoulin (RFA - waiver eligible)
Lovejoy
Chorney (AHL/NHL UFA - waiver eligible)
Harrington (AHL)

All defensemen above can contribute just as much as Scuderi does, if not more, but do not and most will not carry cap hits of $3.35M. Especially if the Penguins are looking to sign a veteran UFA defenseman whether they try to re-sign Martin or Ehrhoff, or target guys like Sekera or Petry, there is absolutely no way they keep Rob Scuderi. As much as people don't trust management, they can't keep Scuderi, they just can't do it. Not with the depth we already have, not with the free agents on the market.

Chris Kunitz is a different story, it can go either way. His production declined but he still has speed, apparently the agreed upon goal of the offseason is to get "younger and faster", so if the Penguins are trying to get "faster" keeping Kunitz helps us achieve that. However, if we're aiming to get "younger" we should move Kunitz. I mentioned this earlier, he had a down year, but 17 goals and 40 points for $3.85M isn't bad. You take a risk keeping him, he could decline even more, or he can return to form as a 30 goal, 60 point player. If he returns to that, then he has value next summer with 1 year left at $3.85M, if he declines more, he could still be moved but for a lot less. Either way, with the lack of depth we have, I'm not sure if we should just get rid of him. I would look to move Spaling's $2.25M first, then give Kunitz a chance to regain his position as a top 6 winger, if he fails, he is an upgrade over Spaling on the 3rd line.

If Despres > Mantha

And Lovejoy > Despres

Then Lovejoy > Mantha

Do it JR.

My thoughts exactly!

 

[Riptide]

After watching that Wild series and seeing Niederreiter be one of their most effective forwards, maybe Yakupov could be that type of player here? He's not as big, but he's just as fast and an even better finisher. Give him protected minutes with Geno.

He's not worth what it would have costed to get the 1st overall back when he was drafted, but if EDM would do a deal that's based around improving how their team is built instead of value, maybe it's worth the risk.

Short of us sending them Lovejoy, Sutter and then something they really want... I do not see there being any interest there - especially considering their new found center depth (RNH, CM, LD, Lander, Gordon) and the fact that both of those players are pending FAs. And that's with me thinking that a quasi 2/3C is a need for them.

I think you'll find that any deal for him is going to be based off of his supposed 40g potential vs his 20/25 goal reality (being generous).

But IF Edmonton was looking to improve their actual roster vs trying to "win" a trade, then I still think we'd be hard pressed to come up with a deal that made sense. I mean Lovejoy, Sutter and Kunitz sounds like a lot... until both Lovejoy and Sutter walk as FAs. And we would all give Kunitz away for a lot less than Yak.

Realistically, If Edmonton was going to trade Yak, I see him going for a goalie like Lehner or a D like Gardiner. Someone equally young who's still working out their issues, where a good chunk of their perceived "value" is their potential.

 

[Sideline]

Kind of like how our organization ran a smear campaign about Despres--and now he's getting huge minutes on a juggernaut out west?

I know the talking heads bad mouthed him, but did anyone actually in the organization go on record while he was still here?

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

I know the talking heads bad mouthed him, but did anyone actually in the organization go on record while he was still hear?

I'd rather the organization call a guy out for not living up to expectations than to run a smear campaign against a guy after he's been traded to try and justify their monumentally stupid decision in moving him.

It could be interpreted that Detroit's trying to light a fire under Mantha's ass. Nothing like that could be interpreted from this organization's (including the media; make no mistake, DK/Rossi/Yohe toe the company line) attacks on Despres' character and value after they dumped him for absolutely nothing.

 

[SprootsMasterFlex]

Short of us sending them Lovejoy, Sutter and then something they really want... I do not see there being any interest there - especially considering their new found center depth (RNH, CM, LD, Lander, Gordon) and the fact that both of those players are pending FAs. And that's with me thinking that a quasi 2/3C is a need for them.

I think you'll find that any deal for him is going to be based off of his supposed 40g potential vs his 20/25 goal reality (being generous).

But IF Edmonton was looking to improve their actual roster vs trying to "win" a trade, then I still think we'd be hard pressed to come up with a deal that made sense. I mean Lovejoy, Sutter and Kunitz sounds like a lot... until both Lovejoy and Sutter walk as FAs. And we would all give Kunitz away for a lot less than Yak.

Realistically, If Edmonton was going to trade Yak, I see him going for a goalie like Lehner or a D like Gardiner. Someone equally young who's still working out their issues, where a good chunk of their perceived "value" is their potential.

That's too much youth down the middle. 2 rookies are your centerman plus RNH is a recipe for disaster. Sutter would be someone I see them being interested in. Still young, affordable caphit, local kid, 2 way game with the ability to sometimes play on the 2nd line should they need him.

 

[Riptide]

That's too much youth down the middle. 2 rookies are your centerman plus RNH is a recipe for disaster. Sutter would be someone I see them being interested in. Still young, affordable caphit, local kid, 2 way game with the ability to sometimes play on the 2nd line should they need him.

I don't disagree. However I still don't see them moving Yak even with us adding a top 4 RHD (Lovejoy), due to the fact both are pending FAs. I mean if someone were to offer that on the trade board they'd be eaten alive by Oiler fans... and honestly I wouldn't blame them. IF one of those guys (mainly Sutter) was a RFA or they had some term left on their contracts, then it might make sense.

 

[drpepper]

That's too much youth down the middle. 2 rookies are your centerman plus RNH is a recipe for disaster. Sutter would be someone I see them being interested in. Still young, affordable caphit, local kid, 2 way game with the ability to sometimes play on the 2nd line should they need him.

Why would they be interested in Sutter for Yakupov when they can just re-sign Roy?

 

[Asuna]

Why would they be interested in Sutter for Yakupov when they can just re-sign Roy?

Maybe they value Sutter more.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Because Roy's 32, and scored 12 goals last season. Sutter's 26 and scored 21.

No real mystery as to why Sutter would garner more interest than Roy.

 

[drpepper]

Because Roy's 32, and scored 12 goals last season. Sutter's 26 and scored 21.

No real mystery as to why Sutter would garner more interest than Roy.

Sutter's a UFA after next season.

If they want experience for a year or so while McDavid gets settled, re-signing Roy makes tons more sense then trading for Sutter, losing Yakupov (or whatever other assets were used in the trade), and hoping that Sutter re-signs.

It isn't a good bet for EDM. It's stupid.

If the Penguins management did something so monumentally stupid like that, they'd rightly be crucified on this board.

Posters keep trying to force a Sutter trade to EDM when it makes no ****ing sense for EDM.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Sutter to Edmonton is pretty much a pipedream. If we're interested in Yak, it'd likely have to be a 3 way deal.

Edmonton has Leon and Lander that are capable up and coming 3C's. Yes, Sutter is better now but by the time he's a UFA, someone is going to pay $5m+ for him per season (watch if you don't believe it) and it still doesn't address Edmonton needing an impact defenseman/goaltender.

Something along these lines... (and not just saying Sutter alone will be the cost of this)

Pens: Yakupov

Edmonton: Defenseman/Goaltender

3rd Team: Sutter

 

[billybudd]

Nurse has the look of an impact defenseman. Sooner, too, not later.

At least four teams are going to be kicking themselves for passing on him. Maybe three. With Ekblad, it's not clear the Panthers would have any need for him.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Sutter's a UFA after next season.

If they want experience for a year or so while McDavid gets settled, re-signing Roy makes tons more sense then trading for Sutter, losing Yakupov (or whatever other assets were used in the trade), and hoping that Sutter re-signs.

It isn't a good bet for EDM. It's stupid.

If the Penguins management did something so monumentally stupid like that, they'd rightly be crucified on this board.

Posters keep trying to force a Sutter trade to EDM when it makes no ****ing sense for EDM.

Experience is the most over-hyped, ******** attribute in hockey.

 

[deakka]

Trust me on this one, Rob Scuderi will not be in a Pittsburgh Penguins uniform next season.

Oh, how i wish i could!