2015 NHL Re-Draft #7

[M2Beezy]

No, your posts are generally just uneducated, misinformed, or misguided. Probably because you're still in high school and are naive.

Statistically, I'd go Rantanen > Boeser > Aho. But Rantanen was playing alongside MacKinnon, so Boeser to me is on par with Rantanen at this stage as MacKinnon + Landeskog > Horvat + Baertschi.

Tho your first paragraph is uneducated, misinformed AND misguided, i quite agree with your second paragraph. Great minds think alike!

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Tho your first paragraph is uneducated, misinformed AND misguided, i quite agree with your second paragraph. Great minds think alike!

This post is the equivalent of the "I know you are, but what am I?" comeback.

 

[M2Beezy]

This post is the equivalent of the "I know you are, but what am I?" comeback.

Just vote one option and move along bub

 

[Spilot23]

Rantanen is easily the most overrated player on this site

Avs fans : Mackinnon and Rantanen make each other better.

Other fans : Rantanen is a product of Mackinnon.

If we talk about overrated player this could easily go to Point as well since you already rank him above Tavares.

 

[Puckstuff]

Marner vs Rantanen will be an interesting one this season. I may be bias; but I think Marner is better. His second half and playoffs were just to dominant; and including his draft position (which does matter when we're talking about a relativley low amount of data) If Rantanen has a higher PPG then Marner next year; I will crown him the 5th best player in the draft; and happily admit he's better.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Rantanen is easily the most overrated player on this site

lol wat. Not even close. I mean you overrate Point more than Avs fans overrate Rantanen. Especially considering most of HF craps on Rantanen as it is.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

lol wat. Not even close. I mean you overrate Point more than Avs fans overrate Rantanen. Especially considering most of HF craps on Rantanen as it is.

I don’t think I really overrate Point. He is a very good Es scorer and possession player and is one of the most well-rounded centers in the NHL. Rantanen is a guy who is not good defensively, shot high percentage, outproduced his ixGF by a ton, and produced a ton of secondary assists (pointing to a lucky season) in addition to having his underlying numbers tank when away from Nate.

 

[M2Beezy]

Avs fans : Mackinnon and Rantanen make each other better.

Other fans : Rantanen is a product of Mackinnon.

If we talk about overrated player this could easily go to Point as well since you already rank him above Tavares.

I disagree. Most fans dont say this. Im a Canucks fan who feels indifferent to the Aves but IMO Rantanen is 5th in a redraft of 2015. Hes crazy CRAZY good

 

[Icebreakers]

Id actually go Aho > Boeser > Rantanen at this point. Its extremely close though.

Rantanen is a 1996 birthday, so although he was drafted in the same year hes had an extra year of development. Aho and Boeser both lead their teams in scoring.

You would be dillusional if you think Rantanen puts up 84 points on Carolina or Vancouver.

 

[M2Beezy]

Id actually go Aho > Boeser > Rantanen at this point. Its extremely close though.

Rantanen is a 1996 birthday, so although he was drafted in the same year hes had an extra year of development. Aho and Boeser both lead their teams in scoring.

You would be dillusional if you think Rantanen puts up 84 points on Carolina or Vancouver.

But is better ATP

Id go:

1 Mcdavid

2 Jeichel

3 Barzal
4 Provorov

5 Rantanen
6 Boeser
7 Werenski
8 Aho
9 Marner

10 Debrusk
11 Connor
12 Konecny

 

[elitepete]

Don't be upset that Magic Mitch is better than your franchise player

Canucks don’t have a franchise player yet.

And Boeser is better than Marner.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I don’t think I really overrate Point. He is a very good Es scorer and possession player and is one of the most well-rounded centers in the NHL. Rantanen is a guy who is not good defensively, shot high percentage, outproduced his ixGF by a ton, and produced a ton of secondary assists (pointing to a lucky season) in addition to having his underlying numbers tank when away from Nate.

I think on HFAvs there's a lot of us who criticized him this year for starting off the year kinda floaty and not very engaged and letting Mack do all the work. But around the 1/3 mark of the season Rants really took over and learned his role on his line. Also, I'm pretty sure everyones numbers would drop a lot when not playing with Mack, the chemistry they have is incredible and that was evident even during his rookie season where he scored 20 goals on a garbage team. This year he also only shot 1% higher than he did last season. So not exactly an anomaly.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I think on HFAvs there's a lot of us who criticized him this year for starting off the year kinda floaty and not very engaged and letting Mack do all the work. But around the 1/3 mark of the season Rants really took over and learned his role on his line. Also, I'm pretty sure everyones numbers would drop a lot when not playing with Mack, the chemistry they have is incredible and that was evident even during his rookie season where he scored 20 goals on a garbage team. This year he also only shot 1% higher than he did last season. So not exactly an anomaly.

Nah you aren’t getting it. He drops from a 50-53% possession guy to a 40-43% guy when away from Nate.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Nah you aren’t getting it. He drops from a 50-53% possession guy to a 40-43% guy when away from Nate.

That’s not a huge surprise. The Avs offensive depth is pretty bad, so I mean it’s not like he has someone to help him out on a consistent basis. And he won’t/shouldn’t ever play away from Mack because they’re that good together. I mean clearly two players can’t have incredibly good chemistry and play well. It’s always one player getting carried by the other.

 

[avsfan09]

Nah you aren’t getting it. He drops from a 50-53% possession guy to a 40-43% guy when away from Nate.

Without Nate the Avs are without a top 6 center. Of course his posession drops.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

That’s not a huge surprise. The Avs offensive depth is pretty bad, so I mean it’s not like he has someone to help him out on a consistent basis. And he won’t/shouldn’t ever play away from Mack because they’re that good together. I mean clearly two players can’t have incredibly good chemistry and play well. It’s always one player getting carried by the other.

MacKinnon's SCF% drops by 5% without Rantanen. Thats somewhat reasonable. Rantanen's drops by 11% without MacKinnon. That is awful.

 

[The Abusement Park]

MacKinnon's SCF% drops by 5% without Rantanen. Thats somewhat reasonable. Rantanen's drops by 11% without MacKinnon. That is awful.

Until we get another top 6 player outside of our 1st line I'm not gonna take you're fancy stats at full value. They don't always paint the right picture.