GDT: 2015 NHL Entry Draft: Pt 2 | Sharks pick F Timo Meier 9th Overall

Gene Parmesan · Jun 28, 2015

Sharksrule04 said:
I am happy with the first 2 picks and I actually have pretty high hopes for the goalies. The rest of the picks are where I am concerned but we will see what happens. I don't have that feeling like I did last year where I thought a couple of later picks had NHL in their future. Hope I am wrong.

Taking a 6'6" dman that can actually move and is headed to a program that has churned out dmen has me intrigued.

Limekiller · Jun 28, 2015

KirbyDots said:
This is bunk, with a couple of the right moves they can be a damn good playoff team and maybe even a contender again. They need a stud goalie and a stud d, both can be had, the goalie through trade which will cost and the d through ufa which we should overpay. Then its just a matter of adding depth and hoping players like Hertl, Nieto, and Tierney take the next step.

Agreed. If we were somehow able to get Rask, and then add Sekera or Green in FA, I think we'd have a real shot, if our young guys take that next step. Even if we just get Sekera/Green and any sort of goalie upgrade, I think we have a chance.

hockeyball · Jun 28, 2015

Limekiller said:
Agreed. If we were somehow able to get Rask, and then add Sekera or Green in FA, I think we'd have a real shot, if our young guys take that next step. Even if we just get Sekera/Green and any sort of goalie upgrade, I think we have a chance.

If we get Rask, which is unlikely, we have a chance simply because he's a top-3 goalie and that makes up for a lot. If we get Sekera or Green we'd have a pretty good D group. I don't think we'd win a cup without some serious luck (all the young guys breaking out to some degree, at least one of the rookies really stepping up, good matchups), but it would be a solid stop-gap until Roy (who I am very high on) Mueller, Meier, etc are ready to step in. I think we'd still have an issue long term finding that #1 c we need to replace Thornton though, and if we make the playoffs next year getting one in the draft is highly unlikely.

Bowie22 · Jun 28, 2015

Gene Parmesan said:
Taking a 6'6" dman that can actually move and is headed to a program that has churned out dmen has me intrigued.

Yea, same here. I was worried at first when I noticed he was 6'6, given our track record with those type of dmen. From my limited reading's on him, he can actually skate well for his size...

hohosaregood · Jun 28, 2015

It's kind of interesting how many players the Sharks took from places that weren't Major Juniors and generally popular places to draft out of.

They got two non-Minnesota high school kids, a guy playing in Norway, a guy playing in the MHL, a guy from Junior A, and a guy from Tier 2 US hockey. Compared to last year where it was 6 guys from Major Junior.

Gene Parmesan · Jun 28, 2015

hohosaregood said:
It's kind of interesting how many players the Sharks took from places that weren't Major Juniors and generally popular places to draft out of.

They got two non-Minnesota high school kids, a guy playing in Norway, a guy playing in the MHL, a guy from Junior A, and a guy from Tier 2 US hockey. Compared to last year where it was 6 guys from Major Junior.

But on the flipside the 3 high schoolers and the BCHL dude are moving onto the NCAA.

OrrNumber4 · Jun 28, 2015

Bowie22 said:
Yea, same here. I was worried at first when I noticed he was 6'6, given our track record with those type of dmen. From my limited reading's on him, he can actually skate well for his size...

So could Nick Petrecki...but I digress!

Gene Parmesan · Jun 28, 2015

OrrNumber4 said:
So could Nick Petrecki...but I digress!

Petrecki also left school way too early and was a 1st round pick. This kid was taken in the 6th and is a beanpole.

hohosaregood · Jun 28, 2015

From my understanding, Petrecki was basically too strong for his own good and masked a lot of his problems at lower levels.

Gene Parmesan · Jun 28, 2015

hohosaregood said:
From my understanding, Petrecki was basically too strong for his own good and masked a lot of his problems at lower levels.

He was undisciplined at B.C. I think things would have been different if he had stayed all four years and grew up.

DonskoiDonscored · Jun 28, 2015

OrrNumber4 said:
So could Nick Petrecki...but I digress!

Petrecki was rushed because the org was panicked at how bad he looked in his freshman and sophomore years. If he stayed in BC for 4 years he would have been at least an NHL fringe player.

Sleepy · Jun 28, 2015

Gerbefied said:
Petrecki was rushed because the org was panicked at how bad he looked in his freshman and sophomore years. If he stayed in BC for 4 years he would have been at least an NHL fringe player.

And that's success for the Sharks in the 1st round!

But seriously. You can't really judge players after a draft, because you are only comparing projections vs projections. It seems like a reach as most had him a lot lower, but most also didn't have Ranalanadingdong falling as far as he did.

We'll see. I haven't followed any of these kids to have any real opinion on them. All I can say is likely no one knows, but based on the Sharks history of drafting non-centers or physical players I am nervous whenever they go away from consensus.

Gene Parmesan · Jun 28, 2015

Gerbefied said:
Petrecki was rushed because the org was panicked at how bad he looked in his freshman and sophomore years. If he stayed in BC for 4 years he would have been at least an NHL fringe player.

He didn't look bad. Just out of control. He made the choice to turn pro. The org can't advise him, pretty sure that's an NCAA violation.

DonskoiDonscored · Jun 28, 2015

Gene Parmesan said:
He didn't look bad. Just out of control. He made the choice to turn pro. The org can't advise him, pretty sure that's an NCAA violation.

And it was a poor, poor choice.

lsx · Jun 28, 2015

KirbyDots said:
This is bunk, with a couple of the right moves they can be a damn good playoff team and maybe even a contender again. They need a stud goalie and a stud d, both can be had, the goalie through trade which will cost and the d through ufa which we should overpay. Then its just a matter of adding depth and hoping players like Hertl, Nieto, and Tierney take the next step.

So if we look back on this after a couple more years of mediocrity, will your excuse be that they simply didn't make those "right moves?" :laugh:

Keep your heads in the sand guys. :laugh:

hohosaregood · Jun 28, 2015

lsx said:
So if we look back on this after a couple more years of mediocrity, will your excuse be that they simply didn't make those "right moves?"

Keep your heads in the sand guys.

Well if DW doesn't do **** then yea but it also depends on what mediocrity is to you. If not winnning the cup is mediocrity, then there's no helping you.

Fistfullofbeer · Jun 28, 2015

lsx said:
So if we look back on this after a couple more years of mediocrity, will your excuse be that they simply didn't make those "right moves?"

Keep your heads in the sand guys.

I am not sure what you are saying?

If we were to get a elite goalie and elite d-man, we would not be contenders?

DonskoiDonscored · Jun 28, 2015

lsx said:
So if we look back on this after a couple more years of mediocrity, will your excuse be that they simply didn't make those "right moves?"

Keep your heads in the sand guys.

If this rebuild is only a couple years of mediocrity I will be thanking the heavens.

T0uGh C0oki3 · Jun 28, 2015

Damn, Anaheim invited Nathan Noel to training camp.

magic school bus · Jun 29, 2015

Sharksrule04 said:
Definitely an up and coming hockey power, and it will make the Olympics interesting when we have the entire Swiss roster. They will be my top choice to win after USA.

I wouldn't say that much, but they're absolutely passing up Czech or Slovakia.

hohosaregood · Jun 29, 2015

magic school bus said:
I wouldn't say that much, but they're absolutely passing up Czech or Slovakia.

Might take a few more years to pass the Czech but agree on Slovakia. Lots of talent coming out of the Czech Republic right now.

DonskoiDonscored · Jun 29, 2015

Sharksrule04 said:
when we have the entire Swiss roster.

*Everyone but Sbisa

DonskoiDonscored · Jun 29, 2015

Does anyone know if the Sharks are doing a draft experience video like they've done for the last 2 years? I always thought they were very cool.

sjsharks92 · Jun 29, 2015

If we could add Sekera, I think the Sharks would be in real good shape. Only then would I want them to make a move for Rask. The number and quality of future assets the Sharks would have to give up to get him would be incredibly steep. No reason to commit those kinds of assets unless they add a top notch dman like Sekera.

OffSydes · Jun 29, 2015

T0uGh C0oki3 said:
By the way, I still can't believe Vehvilainen went undrafted. (May be the scouts saw some huge red flags on him.)

Was he the goalie that went undrafted but his backup was drafted ?

GDT: 2015 NHL Entry Draft: Pt 2 | Sharks pick F Timo Meier 9th Overall

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