Prospect Info: 2015 Annual Prospect Poll #7

[The Midnight Burrito]

Last Poll: Noesen wins a close one over the surprising (to me) Kerdiles.

NOTE THAT GATES IS OUT OF ORDER.


Each poll will be open for 48 hours. If it's not close after 24 hours, I'll call it. If it is, it'll go the full 48. In the event of a tie after 48 hours, a 24-hour runoff will be held. The winner will get the open spot; the loser will go back into the pool, not get the next-lowest rank. The poll will go up to #25. Players are in the poll on the basis of HF's prospect criteria. Essentially, skaters with less than 65 games before the season of their 24th birthday, or goalies with less than 45 games before the season of their 24th birthday, are considered prospects. There are some nuances with respect to older-signed players, which I believe only applies to Matt Bailey this year.

Vote on players using whatever criteria you like. This isn't the readiness poll or the talent poll or the most-likely-to-be-best poll, it's just a survey of who we as Duck fans like.


Prior years results:
2004-05 Lockout II Edition
2010 Edition
2011 Edition
2012 Edition
2013 Lockout III Edition
2014 Edition
(if anyone can find other years, let me know and I'll add them)

year | rank | Prospect | year | rank | Prospect | year | rank | Prospect | change | year | rank | Prospect | change | year | rank | Prospect | change | year | rank | prospect | change 2005 | 1 | Getzlaf | 2010 | 1 | Sbisa | 2011 | 1 | Etem | +5 | 2012 | 1 | Palmieri | +2 | 2013 | 1 | Gibson | +6 | 2014 | 1 | Gibson |0
| 2 | Bryzgalov || 2 | Fowler || 2 | Holland | +2 || 2 | Vatanen | +2 || 2 | Lindholm | +3 || 2 | Vatanen | +5
| 3 | Perry || 3 | Gardiner || 3 | Palmieri | +2 || 3 | Etem | -2 || 3 | Silfverberg |n/a|| 3 | Karlsson | +7
| 4 | Smid || 4 | Holland || 4 | Vatanen | +3 || 4 | Holland | -2 || 4 | Etem | -1 || 4 | Ritchie |n/a
| 5 | Holmqvist || 5 | Palmieri || 5 | REDACTED | +11 || 5 | Lindholm |n/a|| 5 | Rakell | +3 || 5 | Andersen | +7
| 6 | Brent || 6 | Etem || 6 | DSP | +7 || 6 | DSP |0|| 6 | Holland | -2 || 6 | Rakell | -1
| 7 | Kunitz || 7 | Vatanen || 7 | Gibson |n/a|| 7 | Gibson |0|| 7 | Vatanen | -5 || 7 | Kerdiles | +1
| 8 | Popovic || 8 | Clark || 8 | Rakell |n/a|| 8 | Rakell |0|| 8 | Kerdiles | +1 || 8 | Theodore | +3
| 9 | Smirnov || 9 | Mitera || 9 | Maroon |n/a|| 9 | Kerdiles |n/a|| 9 | Noesen |n/a|| 9 | Noesen |0
| 10 | S. O'Brien || 10 | Bonino || 10 | Bonino |0|| 10 | Karlsson | +4 || 10 | Karlsson |0|| 10 | Sorensen | +4
| 11 | Saunders || 11 | Deschamps || 11 | Clark | -3 || 11 | Andersen |n/a|| 11 | Theodore |n/a|| 11 | Pettersson |n/a
| 12 | Smith || 12 | McMillan || 12 | Friberg |n/a|| 12 | Wagner | +6 || 12 | Andersen | -1 || T12 | Manson | +13
| 13 | Glenncross || 13 | DSP || 13 | Deschamps | -2 || 13 | Friberg | -1 || 13 | Smith-Pelly | -7 || T12 | Montour |n/a
| 14 | Korsunov || 14 | Newton || 14 | Karlsson |n/a|| 14 | Clark | -3 || 14 | Sorensen |n/a|| 14 | Friberg | +5
| 15 | Konopka || 15 | Bobkov || 15 | Bobkov |0|| 15 | Welinski | +5 || 15 | Roy | +2 || 15 | Wagner | +2
| 16 | Martensson || 16 | REDACTED || 16 | Macenauer |n/a|| 16 | Maroon | -7 || 16 | Welinski | -1 || 16 | Roy | -1
| 17 | Foster || 17 | Pielmeier || 17 | Cramarossa |n/a|| 17 | Roy |n/a|| 17 | Wagner | -5 || 17 | Welinski | -1
| 18 | Penner || 18 | Sharp || 18 | Wagner |n/a|| 18 | Bobkov | -3 || 18 | Laganiere |n/a|| 18 | Laganiere |0
| 19 | Klubertanz || 19 | Heed || 19 | Schofield |n/a|| 19 | Lind | +2 || 19 | Friberg | -6 || 19 | Thompson | +1
| 20 | Parenteau || 20 | Manson || 20 | Welinski |n/a|| 20 | Cramarossa | -3 || 20 | Thompson |n/a|| 20 | Kase |n/a
| 21 | Perrault || 21 |N/A|| 21 | Lind |n/a|| 21 | A. O'Brien |n/a|| 21 | Sarault |n/a|| 21 | Bobkov | +2
| 22 |N/A|| 22 |N/A|| 22 | Newton | -8 || 22 | Heed | +3 || 22 | Cramarossa | -2 || 22 | Blacker |n/a
| 23 |N/A|| 23 |N/A|| 23 | Carle |n/a|| 23 | Caputi |n/a|| 23 | Bobkov | -5 || 23 | Megna |n/a
| 24 |N/A|| 24 |N/A|| 24 | Perlini |n/a|| 24 | Cooper |n/a|| 24 |N/A||| 24 | Besse |n/a
| 25 |N/A|| 25 |N/A|| 25 | Heed | -6 || 25 | Manson |NR|| 25 |N/A||| 25 | Aaltonen |n/a

Notable Graduates/Departures:
Aaltonen
Andersen
Blacker
Bobkov
Karlsson
Laganiere
Rakell
Vatanen

This year's results:

Rank | Prospect | yearly change | overall change
1| Gibson |n/a| +7 (since 2011)
2| Theodore | +6 | +9 (since 2013)
3| Ritchie | +1 | +1 (since 2014)
4| Montour | +8 | +8 (since 2014)
5| Manson | +7 | +15 (since forever)
6| Noesen | +3 | +3 (since 2013)

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[Static]

It's really hard to vote for this year's draftees since I know nothing about them. I guess I'll go friberg, he just seems to have shown more than kerdiles up to this point.

That said, if the scouts view larsson as a first round talent I'm probably underrating him.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Kerdiles then Larsson

 

[Ducksforcup]

Voted Larsson...first round talent and the Ducks have a nose for these types of players.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Kerdiles is a much better prospect than Noesen at this stage, can't believe Noesen won, to each their own though.

 

[Fighter]

Larsson

 

[Getzmonster]

After the top 5 things are getting pretty muddy. It seems like a tough call to weight the ranking more for raw talent/potential, or give the edge to NHL-readiness. The Manson and Noesen picks probably benefited from the latter, I'm guessing as we get deeper into our pool with guys that haven't seen much AHL, it'll be more about raw talent/potential, but I'm probably just stating the obvious here.

 

[Opak]

Kerdiles, again. Friberg and Roy are up next.

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

I think Larsson is probably being underrated here, much like Theo was after being drafted. I'll go with the Ducks scouts, they clearly know what they're doing with defenseman.

 

[Exit Dose]

Kerdiles, again. Then Pettersson.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I think Larsson is probably being underrated here, much like Theo was after being drafted. I'll go with the Ducks scouts, they clearly know what they're doing with defenseman.

We don't know how the Ducks scouts would rank him as among our current prospects.

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

We don't know how the Ducks scouts would rank him as among our current prospects.

This is 100% true. However, if they're willing to bet a first round pick on the guy, albeit a late one, then they must see quite a bit or potential in him. Though it could be said that they saw pettersson with more potential and he just slid too them. I'm still going with Larsson though.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

This is 100% true. However, if they're willing to bet a first round pick on the guy, albeit a late one, then they must see quite a bit or potential in him. Though it could be said that they saw pettersson with more potential and he just slid too them. I'm still going with Larsson though.

Yeah, it's hard to say at this point. Kerdiles, Pettersson (who I voted for), Larsson, and to a lesser extent Friberg and Wagner are all kinda right there for me. I had Noesen higher than most because I feel like he's hiding a lot of skill under a meat and potatoes blanket (they make blankets like that in England I think). I have Kerdiles a little lower because he had such a rough year, and by some reports, not a very good development camp.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

I know Larsson was a first round pick, I know the Ducks are usually good at picking defensemen, but there is literally 0 videos of him other than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTl4LSORqso and he doesn't impress me at all in this video. He didn't stand out in camp to me so I am assuming people are just voting for him because he was a 1st rounder? There is zero to little information, video, etc. on him so what are people voting for him basing their premise on other than draft position? We have seen Manson, Kerdiles, Roy, Friberg etc. at least. I know Hampus was similar but he seemed to be way more known by the hockey world at the time. Larsson could end up being our best defensemen who knows just don't know anything about him.

 

[Duck Off]

I know Larsson was a first round pick, I know the Ducks are usually good at picking defensemen, but there is literally 0 videos of him other than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTl4LSORqso and he doesn't impress me at all in this video. He didn't stand out in camp to me so I am assuming people are just voting for him because he was a 1st rounder? There is zero to little information, video, etc. on him so what are people voting for him basing their premise on other than draft position? We have seen Manson, Kerdiles, Roy, Friberg etc. at least. I know Hampus was similar but he seemed to be way more known by the hockey world at the time. Larsson could end up being our best defensemen who knows just don't know anything about him.

For me personally, I don't watch enough video to do thorough evaluations. I've seen plenty of "highlight" videos but IMO, that's a terrible way to analyze a prospect. I've picked Larsson since #4 (although I said it's a toss up between he, Montour, and Manson).

Reasons I went with Larsson:
Draft Position: Murray, McNabb, and co may disappoint with drafting forwards but they know their defenseman. When they take a defenseman in the first round, despite that clearly being our strength, they see something special in him. That alone is good enough for me. After the Lindholm pick panned out, I vowed to never doubt them again when it came to selecting defenseman.

I also liked that many of the scouts compared him to Lindholm.

From what I hear, his upside far outweighs most of our prospects. I think this is an underrated quality around here.

I personally would have done:
Larsson
Manson
Montour
Noesen
Kerdiles

 

[Vipers31]

I know Larsson was a first round pick, I know the Ducks are usually good at picking defensemen, but there is literally 0 videos of him other than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTl4LSORqso and he doesn't impress me at all in this video. He didn't stand out in camp to me so I am assuming people are just voting for him because he was a 1st rounder? There is zero to little information, video, etc. on him so what are people voting for him basing their premise on other than draft position? We have seen Manson, Kerdiles, Roy, Friberg etc. at least. I know Hampus was similar but he seemed to be way more known by the hockey world at the time. Larsson could end up being our best defensemen who knows just don't know anything about him.

There isn't "little information". There's plenty information, plenty of reports. Can't blame people for taking the wealth of second hand scouting over their own ability to scout based on a few viewings. I certainly respect you wanting to do your own thing and only go by what you see, but that isn't the broad standard in these polls, as much as I'd prefer us all to be in that position.

EDIT: Duck Off had a number more fair points. I would have had a similar order, just with Pettersson and Larsson going next to each other.

 

[snarktacular]

Larsson's scouting report just didn't excite me very much. I think I might have Pettersson over him.

Kerdiles had a rough year, but I had liked what I've seen from him and how he was performing up until turning pro. In the end stayed with Kerdiles.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

The only scouting reports I can find for Larsson for about 2-3 sentences each.

Can someone link me to something that is in depth?

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

Yeah, it's hard to say at this point. Kerdiles, Pettersson (who I voted for), Larsson, and to a lesser extent Friberg and Wagner are all kinda right there for me. I had Noesen higher than most because I feel like he's hiding a lot of skill under a meat and potatoes blanket (they make blankets like that in England I think). I have Kerdiles a little lower because he had such a rough year, and by some reports, not a very good development camp.

I was really disappointed in the season kerdiles put together, aside from his point totals, I just didn't see as much skill as I was hoping for, I could see noesen going here, as he clearly has some solid building blocks, but his injuries make it tough and Friberg just doesn't have enough high end potential for me, though I really like his style.

I guess I'm just a potential *****, but other than Ritchie, I just don't see a lot of top six potential in any of our forward prospects, excluding the recently drafted group, who i literally know nothing about.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Larsson's scouting report just didn't excite me very much. I think I might have Pettersson over him.

Kerdiles had a rough year, but I had liked what I've seen from him and how he was performing up until turning pro. In the end stayed with Kerdiles.

I hope his concussion hasn't affected his play heard it was a big one

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I want to call this one but it's still got three hours and it's so close.

 

[OCSportsfan]

Had to get one more vote in for Kerdiles. He had an average year, but he is closer to the NHL that a few of these, so that is how i am voting. Surprised he lost to Noesen.

 

[Arthuros]

I may have broken the tie again in Kerdiles's favour.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I may have broken the tie again in Kerdiles's favour.

Yes you did. Sorry guys I don't have time to set up #8 tonight, I'll do it tomorrow afternoon.

 

[Vipers31]

Noesen/Kerdiles ahead of Larsson/Pettersson seems highly questionable to me - wouldn't hate to be wrong (based on the former two exceeding my expectations rather than the latter two falling short), and it will be interesting to see how this shakes out in real life.