2015-2017 Pens vs 2007-2009 Wings vs 2007-2009 Pens

[illpucks]

The Penguins are the last team to make the SC final back-to-back since 2009 where both the Penguins, and Wings did. Which of these 3 teams is the best?

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[GordieHowsUrBreath]

last year

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

2016 Pens vs 2008 Wings

 

[Fugazy]

2008 Red Wings for me, followed by the 2016 Penguins.

 

[Internet Explorer]

2008 Red Wings for me, followed by the 2016 Penguins.

Agreed.

 

[SEALBound]

2016 Pens could have taken the 2008 Red Wings.

2016 Pens are the best of that bunch. 2008 wings are close behind.

I'd say:

2016 Pens
2008 Wings
2008 Pens
2009 Pens
2009 Wings

Too tough to say where the 2007 Wings fit in.

 

[deepelemblues]

2016 Pens vs 2008 Red Wings would be a hell of a series

 

[KJoe88]

2008 Wings.

 

[Michael Farkas]

The 2008 Wings by a pretty clear margin. They were nearly unstoppable.

 

[NoMessi]

Wings in 2008 and Penguins 2016 are by far the best teams in the lockout era Imo. Going with Red Wings because Malkin and Crosby weren't good at all in the only series versus a great team (Capitals). The rest of the team was amazing all the way, but thats not good enough to counter Dats, Z and Lidström in their primes and a really good supporting cast.

 

[FoxyClean]

What makes the 08 Wings better than the 09 Wings? The 09 Wings were the same team, plus Hossa. Obviously they lost game 7, but that's because the Penguins improved.

 

[TimbitsHockey877*]

The 2008 Wings by a pretty clear margin. They were nearly unstoppable.

4 out of their 5 series went 6 games. That's not really unstoppable.


2016 Pens team. They were only out played + beat in 3 games that whole post season. The game against the Caps where Letang was injured, the first game against the Bolts, and I think it was Game 2 or 3 against SJ. They completely dominated the rest of the playoffs. Only lost to goalies who stole games and horrible calls to extend series.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Despite Osgood, they were just better on the ice...I have no idea about paper or stats or whatever...but I watched every game of every playoffs for a while now and that '08 Detroit sticks out something special...if they had a better goalie, they had a shot at 16-0...Osgood was the only thing that kept the Pens alive in the Final.

In 09, Osgood was strangely better but the team just wasn't quite as good...not sure if it was fatigue or injury (Red Wings will jump all over this + conspiracy nonsense soon, so I'm reticent to light that match but...), but teams weren't as overwhelmed by them on the ice like they were in '08...difficult to quantify, but I think there was an obvious step down in '09 and still that was nearly good enough...it was a really good team in its own right, I'm not sure they weren't better than the '16 Pens as well...it's pretty close...

 

[KJoe88]

What makes the 08 Wings better than the 09 Wings? The 09 Wings were the same team, plus Hossa. Obviously they lost game 7, but that's because the Penguins improved.

Health. Imo anyways.

And the the 2016 Pens also had to go through three six game series. To the above poster - what's your point? The Wings swept the Avs and went 4-2 in the other series while the Pens didn't sweep anyone... I also didn't know the playoffs had five rounds now...

 

[quoipourquoi]

Despite Osgood, they were just better on the ice...I have no idea about paper or stats or whatever...but I watched every game of every playoffs for a while now and that '08 Detroit sticks out something special...if they had a better goalie, they had a shot at 16-0...Osgood was the only thing that kept the Pens alive in the Final.

It's Osgood's fault that they went 2-2 to start off the playoffs with a different goalie before rattling off 9-in-a-row with Osgood in net - a streak that was broken in back-to-back games in which they provided just one goal of support against Dallas?

No, they would not go 16-0 with a different goaltender. That's absurd.

 

[Huggy]

2008 Wings AINEC

I watched the 2009 SCF as my first real dip into hockey and that Red Wings team with a sieve goalie was just unreal good, beautiful hockey.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Despite Osgood, they were just better on the ice...I have no idea about paper or stats or whatever...but I watched every game of every playoffs for a while now and that '08 Detroit sticks out something special...if they had a better goalie, they had a shot at 16-0...Osgood was the only thing that kept the Pens alive in the Final.

In 09, Osgood was strangely better but the team just wasn't quite as good...not sure if it was fatigue or injury (Red Wings will jump all over this + conspiracy nonsense soon, so I'm reticent to light that match but...), but teams weren't as overwhelmed by them on the ice like they were in '08...difficult to quantify, but I think there was an obvious step down in '09 and still that was nearly good enough...it was a really good team in its own right, I'm not sure they weren't better than the '16 Pens as well...it's pretty close...

What? Osgood had a Smythe caliber run in 2008.

 

[Sentinel]

What? Osgood had a Smythe caliber run in 2008.

That would be 2009. In 2008 Osgood was good but not great.

I prefer 2002 Wings really.

 

[GordieHowsUrBreath]

The 2008 Wings by a pretty clear margin. They were nearly unstoppable.

LOL the 2008 pens team were far inferior to the pens last year, yet that team took the "unstoppable" wings to 6 and came close to tying it up and maybe sending it to 7

it's amazing how the older a team is the "better" they get as time goes by, nostalgia is hilarious

 

[Michael Farkas]

I've never heard the term "nostalgia" used in reference to 2008 before..."lol" indeed...

 

[Pick87your71Poison]

4 out of their 5 series went 6 games. That's not really unstoppable.


2016 Pens team. They were only out played + beat in 3 games that whole post season. The game against the Caps where Letang was injured, the first game against the Bolts, and I think it was Game 2 or 3 against SJ. They completely dominated the rest of the playoffs. Only lost to goalies who stole games and horrible calls to extend series.

To be fair, if they made them play 5 series that's a much tougher path than everyone else...

 

[CKJohn]

4 out of their 5 series went 6 games. That's not really unstoppable.

Stopped reading right there.

To be fair, Wings fans are going to vote for 08, Pens fans for 16. No way to compare them. They both are Stanley Cup winning teams so in my book, they are both damn good hockey teams as are every other cup winner.

 

[Michael Farkas]

As a Pens fan, I have an emphatic vote in for 2008 Detroit haha...which really says nothing about your point in general, just sayin'...

 

[RapidFire]

lol at the people who think the 2016 pens would beat the '08 wings

 

[LarKing]

Could be wrong but iirc that 08 team had possession numbers that still haven't been touched today. Assuming health I really don't think anyone stood/stands a chance against a prime Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and beast mode Franzen.