Confirmed with Link: 2014 QOs

[Gilligans Island]

Probably why they haven't signed a contract yet. They wanted to see what their comparables get.

I'm just catching up on all the signings today. What are their comps?

Is Quincey a comp for Demers?

 

[SJeasy]

I'm just catching up on all the signings today. What are their comps?

Is Quincey a comp for Demers?

UFAs aren't comps for RFAs. Stralman and Niskanen are similar players as well. A guy like Franson is a low end comp. Maata is too young. The problem for Demers and DW is that there aren't a lot of similar age/experience comps out there for Demers. Relatively high scoring, low TOI player with relatively limited PP time. The scoring brings the compensation up, the TOI brings it down.

 

[Gilligans Island]

UFAs aren't comps for RFAs. Stralman and Niskanen are similar players as well. A guy like Franson is a low end comp. Maata is too young. The problem for Demers and DW is that there aren't a lot of similar age/experience comps out there for Demers. Relatively high scoring, low TOI player with relatively limited PP time. The scoring brings the compensation up, the TOI brings it down.

What do you think about using Faulk's 1st years as a comp for Demers? (I'd like to see him get a 2, 3 yr deal.)

 

[Gene Parmesan]

I think Wingels will be the hardest to sign. Not that his demands are outrageous but he's 26 and probably looking for a 4 or 5 year term. His play style doesn't lend to a long shelf life. Demers is also tricky because he produced well but played 3rd pairing minutes for part of the season. I'm assuming going into next year its

Vlasic-Burns
Braun-Demers

 

[SJeasy]

What do you think about using Faulk's 1st years as a comp for Demers? (I'd like to see him get a 2, 3 yr deal.)

Faulk had high draft pick and better minutes added to his salary. He is pretty close on the front end of that deal. I would include those first years as a loose comp, like Franson is a loose comp the other way.

High draft picks get a small premium for their projection rather than for their actual play. See Del Zotto.

 

[hohosaregood]

I think Wingels will be the hardest to sign. Not that his demands are outrageous but he's 26 and probably looking for a 4 or 5 year term. His play style doesn't lend to a long shelf life. Demers is also tricky because he produced well but played 3rd pairing minutes for part of the season. I'm assuming going into next year its

Vlasic-Burns
Braun-Demers

I just want Braun to be at maximum effectiveness. If he can play as well on the left as he can on the right then fine but I don't want to go in with that being the only option. If we go with Burns, Braun, and Demers on the right side, we could have three potentially decent pairings though even if it's weaker on the left side..

 

[freddypuck]

I would do 3 Yr 9 mill...for Demers and Wingels

 

[Gigante]

I would do 3 Yr 9 mill...for Demers and Wingels

Higher than I'd like, but I won't cry.

 

[210]

Sena Acolatse signs with the Calgary Flames.

Now I generally pay no attention to how quickly players who weren't qualified find NHL jobs, but under 72 hours seems pretty quick to me.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Sena Acolatse signs with the Calgary Flames.

Now I generally pay no attention to how quickly players who weren't qualified find NHL jobs, but under 72 hours seems pretty quick to me.

Not really surprised, played in the WHL and Adirondack's head coach Ryan Huska was Kelowna's coach when Sena was in junior, so there is a connection.

 

[slocal]

Not really surprised, played in the WHL and Adirondack's head coach Ryan Huska was Kelowna's coach when Sena was in junior, so there is a connection.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Hey I didn't say "Sena grew up watching Gary Suter and Mike Rathje and spent his days playing roller hockey on the streets of Hayward, California! He's a good player but an even better person!"

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Hey I didn't say "Sena grew up watching Gary Suter and Mike Rathje and spent his days playing roller hockey on the streets of Hayward, California! He's a good player but an even better person!"

Or use the word legendary

 

[KirbyDots]

"Toews, Toews, Toews."

 

[sr228]

Sena Acolatse signs with the Calgary Flames.

Now I generally pay no attention to how quickly players who weren't qualified find NHL jobs, but under 72 hours seems pretty quick to me.

He wasn't an RFA but it didn't take long for McCarthy to find a job either:

Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva
Blues signed John McCarthy to a one year deal. Its a 2 way contract worth $600 000. #tvasports

 

[210]

He wasn't an RFA but it didn't take long for McCarthy to find a job either:

Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva
Blues signed John McCarthy to a one year deal. Its a 2 way contract worth $600 000. #tvasports

That really surprised me. JMac is a nice kid, but he's not an NHL player at all...

 

[dwood16]

Sena Acolatse signs with the Calgary Flames.

Now I generally pay no attention to how quickly players who weren't qualified find NHL jobs, but under 72 hours seems pretty quick to me.

I'm so irritated by the sharks not resigning him. I still think he can become an nhl player. Plus he's tough as nails.

 

[210]

I'm so irritated by the sharks not resigning him. I still think he can become an nhl player. Plus he's tough as nails.

I really don't understand not qualifying a young defenseman that can play both sides and obviously hasn't hit his developmental peak yet...there isn't a single logical reason to not have qualified him.

 

[dwood16]

I really don't understand not qualifying a young defenseman that can play both sides and obviously hasn't hit his developmental peak yet...there isn't a single logical reason to not have qualified him.

Even trying to think like DW/the org ...I can't explain it. Perhaps they want only nifty skating defencemen? I'd have a hard time believing there are off-ice issues or anything of that nature. Sena really seemed like a good kid. Could his injuries be worse than we know? I know he had the broken jaw and probably was concussed pretty badly ...but he's young.

I'd like to see Doug answer the question of why they felt Sena didn't deserve more of a look, directly.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I really don't understand not qualifying a young defenseman that can play both sides and obviously hasn't hit his developmental peak yet...there isn't a single logical reason to not have qualified him.

Probably needed the contract slot for John Scott.

 

[210]

Even trying to think like DW/the org ...I can't explain it. Perhaps they want only nifty skating defencemen? I'd have a hard time believing there are off-ice issues or anything of that nature. Sena really seemed like a good kid. Could his injuries be worse than we know? I know he had the broken jaw and probably was concussed pretty badly ...but he's young.

I'd like to see Doug answer the question of why they felt Sena didn't deserve more of a look, directly.

He got "minor" concussions with both facial injuries but recovered from both of them very quickly, and his last injury was a broken lower leg...I don't recall him ever missing any time from a "soft tissue" injury, just the three broken bones from blocking shots. And other than being late a couple times early in his rookie season for team meetings I'm unaware of any off the ice issues that would make SJ hesitant about qualifying him.

I really don't get why they didn't qualify him.

 

[210]

Probably needed the contract slot for John Scott.

He could have had Petrecki's

 

[Juxtaposer]

He could have had Petrecki's

That one's being saved for Douglas Murray.

 

[210]

The joke made me look. Just glancing at the list San Jose has a ton of open NHL contract spots right now, even counting guys like Wingels, Demers, and Sheppard as signed (I know they aren't yet)...like 10, give or take, and not accounting for the ones that could potentially slide.

 

[Juxtaposer]

The joke made me look. Just glancing at the list San Jose has a ton of open NHL contract spots right now, even counting guys like Wingels, Demers, and Sheppard as signed (I know they aren't yet)...like 10, give or take, and not accounting for the ones that could potentially slide.

Isn't that... unusual? I mean aren't we usually at like one below the limit?