GDT: 2014 NHL Entry Draft II: You're Either Pro-Sang or You're No-Sang (We're No-Sang)

[Bluesoma]

Well consider that the only non-pro D prospects were all in Europe with the only/last junior being Vance. Dallas sort of needed to stock up on D for the future. Nearly every one of these guys we won't see in like 2-3 years even on the AHL level.

Add to that, that defensemen take a bit longer to develop over forwards I would be surprised if next year was another forward shotgun draft.

Or they go all goalies which would be HILARIOUS.

Also, like it's been said before, they probably had a lot of guys ranked the same and defaulted to defense in those cases.

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

Honka - 18 years, 6 months
Pollock - 18 years, 3 months
Peters - 17 years, 11 months
Prapavessis - 18 years, 5 months
Moran - 17 years, 11 months
Karjalainen - 18 years, 1 month
Haydon - 18 years, 5 months
Nyberg - 17 years, 11 months
Sanvido - 18 years old today

Feels like we picked a load more of 17 year olds than usual.

 

[Zrhutch]

They drafted 6 forwards, 2 defensemen, and 1 goalie last year.

Gotcha. Same idea. Looks like Nill zones in on one position per draft and gets the BPA when applicable

 

[LT]

It's so strange, being older than some of those guys.

 

[Bluesoma]

It's so strange, being older than some of those guys.

Wait til you hit that age when you're *****ing about 32-33 year old players being too old for the team and time to move on from them.


Then realizing your as old or older than the "old guys" of the team.

 

[Hull Fan]

No wait till you discover that yes I'm old enough to be one of these kids' parent.

 

[Starry Knight]

If you go off of The Hockey News' draft preview, we did quite well. 16, 33, 58, 66, and 68.

How Haydon fell so low is beyond me.

 

[glovesave_35]

Gotcha. Same idea. Looks like Nill zones in on one position per draft and gets the BPA when applicable

Why is that the assumption? Isn't it possible that last year there were better forwards available when we picked and this year it was reversed?

 

[glovesave_35]

Comin for ya Canada...

Really weird to see more Latvian players drafted than Slovakian. Their development system seems to have fallen completely by the wayside.

 

[TrillMike]

A lot of D. Nice!

 

[Zrhutch]

Why is that the assumption? Isn't it possible that last year there were better forwards available when we picked and this year it was reversed?

It's possible, but not as likely. We'll see next year if he does the same kind of thing

 

[glovesave_35]

It's possible, but not as likely. We'll see next year if he does the same kind of thing

So if there isn't an even split then that suggests intent to draft for position?

We already know he said that if they were drafting and they had two guys rated equally they were going D. A slight bias is fine and shows a good understanding of your prospect pool.

 

[SonicSpeedDash]

So much D. I like it.

 

[glovesave_35]

Came across an article about the Flyers having Ho-Sang on their no draft list and there was this little blurb:

Word is that Ho-Sang really hurt him during interviews with teams. He apparently ticked off the Dallas Stars management by telling execs that they’d live regret passing on him in the draft.

Not earth shattering, just passing it along.

 

[Caseman]

I don't see why that sort of comment would tick anyone off, but oh well.

 

[glovesave_35]

I don't see why that sort of comment would tick anyone off, but oh well.

Yeah, me neither.

 

[SolidusAKA]

I don't see why that sort of comment would tick anyone off, but oh well.

Maybe it was really throaty, a lot of unnecessary tone

 

[Bluesoma]

Media speak "regret if they skip him" probably translate to him telling Dallas they'd be f-ing idiots if they didn't draft him and that he'd make them pay every time they play.

Hell that could have been the first thing out of his mouth as soon as he sat down.

Nothing as simple as "you'll regret it" would tick off hockey management I would think.

 

[glovesave_35]

Media speak "regret if they skip him" probably translate to him telling Dallas they'd be f-ing idiots if they didn't draft him and that he'd make them pay every time they play.

Hell that could have been the first thing out of his mouth as soon as he sat down.

Nothing as simple as "you'll regret it" would tick off hockey management I would think.

If that is actually the case you'd think there are some simple ways of phrasing that better in the article in such a way that it's clear he didn't exactly say "you'll regret passing on me".

I'm not saying you're wrong. It's just weird that if that's the case the writer didn't do a better job of implying some sort of hostile or mocking tone.

 

[Satan]

Ho-Sang is dumb it's fine

 

[redbeardtx]

Ho-Sang is dumb it's fine

He sounded like SUCH an idiot in the post draft interview. "Like word dude ya know haha yeah like omg for seriously" is what it sounded like to me.

 

[Hull Fan]

He sounded like SUCH an idiot in the post draft interview. "Like word dude ya know haha yeah like omg for seriously" is what it sounded like to me.

Hang around a high school for 10 minutes. He sounds very typical. They're almost all dumb.

 

[Brand New Stars]

New generations are garbage. I'm ashamed of my own in fact. Hope that kid is a huge bust.

 

[Captain Awesome]

All the quotes I've read make me think he's a total idiot, but I've seen him described as highly intelligent more than once. I'll lean towards idiot until proven otherwise.

 

[redbeardtx]

Hang around a high school for 10 minutes. He sounds very typical. They're almost all dumb.

I guess I was unaware of that...makes me disappointed for the future