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I haven't noticed a thread about this and I apologize if this is a dupe.
What do you guys see us doing during the draft and over the summer. I see at least one more move and possibly 2-3 before it's all said and done. It would seem that Snow is building a winner and not going for the Pandolfo and Reasoners of the world anymore. Thank god.
My question is...why is this 2014 UFA season supposed to be one of the worst ones? There's still a lot of decent players available. Some will be snapped up almost immediately ie, Gaborik, Miller and most probably Vanek and Iginla.
We don't necessarily have to go for a UFA. We could make a trade for a player already under contract.
IF we sign Boyle, I don't think we would be looking for another blueliner. We are most certainly going to go for forwards. Who's available that we want?
UFA's
Stasny is at the top of my list! Do you think Snow would sign him to probably a 7mill x 5 year contract. This is assuming Colorado doesn't resign him.
Then I'd go for Ray Whitney, Radim Vrbata, Steve Ott. Combined total 10 mill salary for 3 players.
IF we are lucky enough and sign these players, the lines could look like this:
X - JT - OK
Vrbata - Stasny - Whitney
Lee - Strome - Nelson
Bailey - Ott - Grabner
Explanation:
In order to sign more vets and still be somewhat financially responsible....instead of signing a top 3 which would most certainly cost us 6-7.5 mill, lets choose someone from within that has 1. chemistry and 2. is playing like he is worth something. Great two way playing abilities too, which opens up space for others to score, especially with the stronger blue line presence. This is why I like Nielsen in there. He's earned it. He's like a young St Louis..ok..maybe I am dreaming, but he isn't far off.
Trade possibilities?
I like Wheeler and Helm to be part of the supporting scoring lines.
Helm is on a super friendly contract and he's on par with Nielsen calibre talent (my opinion)
Trade proposal
To Wings - Bailey, Matt Martin, Kabanov (I think he could learn a lot from Datsyuk) +3rd for
To NYI - Helm + 2nd (contract 2.2 mill until 2016/17 season) Mainly because he does have a friendly contract and those three together I don't think would have a career anywhere near what Helm would have...unless Kabby pulls his thumb out of his butt. This trade does seem like an overpayment, but again, we get a player on par with Nielsen (IMO)...I know he doesn't score like Nielsen has, but I think he just doesn't get enough icetime and the guy SHOWS UP for playoffs.
Between Vrbata, Helm, Whitney and Ott...you have 12-13 mill in salary. That's pretty good.
All in all, this would add 20 mill in salary, should Stasny sign with us.
What would the lines look like after all is said and done?:
Nielsen - JT - OK
Vrbata - Stasny - Whitney
Lee - Strome - Nelson
Helm - Ott - Grabner
Pretty much every winger is interchangeable with each other. Vrbata, Whitney, Nielsen, Nelson, Grabner and Helm can all fill the wing off of JT IF need be. Heck, even Lee and Ott can. THIS is what I consider a deep team, especially when I can at the very worst have Clutterbuck and Bolton as extras and McDonald, Donovan, Halmo, Sundstrom and Ness to call up. Soon to be a few more players. This is the depth we need to win. You never know when an injury can screw it up for everyone..ie..Montreal with no Price...forget it.
Can nelson or strome play more..sure, once they have learned all they can from real vets. I know many people here want Nelson, Lee or Strome to play on better lines, but on a good team, they'd never be higher than third. Look how long it took for Saad to get a chance and Chicago still has problems getting him enough ice time.
Thoughts? I like Wheeler too, but if I was presented with both, I'd take Helm in a heartbeat.
What do you guys see us doing during the draft and over the summer. I see at least one more move and possibly 2-3 before it's all said and done. It would seem that Snow is building a winner and not going for the Pandolfo and Reasoners of the world anymore. Thank god.
My question is...why is this 2014 UFA season supposed to be one of the worst ones? There's still a lot of decent players available. Some will be snapped up almost immediately ie, Gaborik, Miller and most probably Vanek and Iginla.
We don't necessarily have to go for a UFA. We could make a trade for a player already under contract.
IF we sign Boyle, I don't think we would be looking for another blueliner. We are most certainly going to go for forwards. Who's available that we want?
UFA's
Stasny is at the top of my list! Do you think Snow would sign him to probably a 7mill x 5 year contract. This is assuming Colorado doesn't resign him.
Then I'd go for Ray Whitney, Radim Vrbata, Steve Ott. Combined total 10 mill salary for 3 players.
IF we are lucky enough and sign these players, the lines could look like this:
X - JT - OK
Vrbata - Stasny - Whitney
Lee - Strome - Nelson
Bailey - Ott - Grabner
Explanation:
In order to sign more vets and still be somewhat financially responsible....instead of signing a top 3 which would most certainly cost us 6-7.5 mill, lets choose someone from within that has 1. chemistry and 2. is playing like he is worth something. Great two way playing abilities too, which opens up space for others to score, especially with the stronger blue line presence. This is why I like Nielsen in there. He's earned it. He's like a young St Louis..ok..maybe I am dreaming, but he isn't far off.
Trade possibilities?
I like Wheeler and Helm to be part of the supporting scoring lines.
Helm is on a super friendly contract and he's on par with Nielsen calibre talent (my opinion)
Trade proposal
To Wings - Bailey, Matt Martin, Kabanov (I think he could learn a lot from Datsyuk) +3rd for
To NYI - Helm + 2nd (contract 2.2 mill until 2016/17 season) Mainly because he does have a friendly contract and those three together I don't think would have a career anywhere near what Helm would have...unless Kabby pulls his thumb out of his butt. This trade does seem like an overpayment, but again, we get a player on par with Nielsen (IMO)...I know he doesn't score like Nielsen has, but I think he just doesn't get enough icetime and the guy SHOWS UP for playoffs.
Between Vrbata, Helm, Whitney and Ott...you have 12-13 mill in salary. That's pretty good.
All in all, this would add 20 mill in salary, should Stasny sign with us.
What would the lines look like after all is said and done?:
Nielsen - JT - OK
Vrbata - Stasny - Whitney
Lee - Strome - Nelson
Helm - Ott - Grabner
Pretty much every winger is interchangeable with each other. Vrbata, Whitney, Nielsen, Nelson, Grabner and Helm can all fill the wing off of JT IF need be. Heck, even Lee and Ott can. THIS is what I consider a deep team, especially when I can at the very worst have Clutterbuck and Bolton as extras and McDonald, Donovan, Halmo, Sundstrom and Ness to call up. Soon to be a few more players. This is the depth we need to win. You never know when an injury can screw it up for everyone..ie..Montreal with no Price...forget it.
Can nelson or strome play more..sure, once they have learned all they can from real vets. I know many people here want Nelson, Lee or Strome to play on better lines, but on a good team, they'd never be higher than third. Look how long it took for Saad to get a chance and Chicago still has problems getting him enough ice time.
Thoughts? I like Wheeler too, but if I was presented with both, I'd take Helm in a heartbeat.
