Caeldan
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I honestly think Murray is after Eberle. It just makes more sense to speculate on hall because hes a LW and a lw fits better into our line up without any adjustments. Ryan has played quite a bit of LW in the past and even played a bit there last year. It would make sense to me to acquire Eberle for a price below hall's and move Ryan to LW.
I'm not that keen to seperate hoff and ryan myself. I think Ryan has been a great influence on Hoff and there skill sets work well together.
Hall-Zibby-Ryan
hoff/mac-Turris-Stone
Ryan-Zibby-eberle
Mac/hoff-Turris-Stone
I think targetting Eberle over Hall makes a lot of sense in that it wouldn't cost as much
I remember talking to a lot of reporters/scouts who were in town for the WJC in 2009 (I worked in a russian bar back then) and there was a lot of talk about how awful of an attitude he had, it just kept coming back because of the comeback against Russia
Obviously that was a long time ago now but I'd be lying if I didn't say it's something that I'd be having reservations over
Well its rumored Murray wants a young forward. We have a choice between Hall(cocky), eberle (cocky) or Yakupov (mentally fragile who has no confidence). Under ideal circumstance its RNH but i dont see edmonton moving him under any circumstances.
Under no circumstances should we trade that 2015 first round pick until after draft order and lotto has been set. The possibility of giving up McDavid ++ for a soft little winger like Eberle, or a guy like Hall would make us the laughing stock of the league for a decade.
Imagine if the Pens made a desperation trade and ended up watching Crosby go to someone else? Chances are the Pens would be playing in a different city right now if that happened.
If we're going to pick up anyone from Edmonton, it better be a buy low situation. All those guys have been in a terrible situation where the kids haven't developed past their junior game. There is a pretty big risk these guys will not duplicate their Edmonton stats with us.
It's just too risky. I'd rather hold on to our guys and let them grow and develop together as a team.
I'd rather make smaller trade(s). Move guys like Greening, Smith, maybe a mid-tier prospect for a player or pick.
Hate to say it but one guy we can't give away and the other is still not recovered from a major injury.
We don't have to break the bank for a superstar like Hall, but we aren't getting anything for these scrubs.
Oh, I'm not suggesting we'd get anything great with guys like Greening or Smith. I'd just rather leave the core and good complementary pieces intact. Let the team grow. If we have to move some bodies, let it be the Greenings and Smiths....getting a mid-round pick is good enough to open up some room.
We can save the Hall type trades for a few years, when we only need one more piece to hit contender status.
Under no circumstances should we trade that 2015 first round pick until after draft order and lotto has been set. ....
Lehner, Cowen, Guptill/Dziurzynski is a pretty solid package for one guy and a thrown in. If not, pass on Hall and keep building from within.
This should be written in stone - as long as its not Mark Stone.
I can see us needing a package that would include Lehner and another top prospect (Cowen, Zibanejad type) plus a Guptill type for a Hall/Fasth. I'm hoping the No1 this and next year are not required. I would not include Lazar, Hoffman or Stone. We are building, not status quo
Lehner, Cowen, Guptill/Dziurzynski is a pretty solid package for one guy and a thrown in. If not, pass on Hall and keep building from within.
I think targetting Eberle over Hall makes a lot of sense in that it wouldn't cost as much
I remember talking to a lot of reporters/scouts who were in town for the WJC in 2009 (I worked in a russian bar back then) and there was a lot of talk about how awful of an attitude he had, it just kept coming back because of the comeback against Russia
Obviously that was a long time ago now but I'd be lying if I didn't say it's something that I'd be having reservations over
Just curious: Why do you include Guptill/Dziurzynski? They have zero value.
Just curious: Why do the Stars include Guptill in the Spezza trade?