Speculation: 2014 - 2015 New York Rangers :: Roster Building Part XVIV: Everything is Happening!

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I wouldn't. Would be an absolute last resort for me. Hagelin is more important to this team than a lot of people give him credit for.

Yes but we have no cap space to re-sign him, with Kreider, Stepan, Yandle, Miller, Fast and Talbot (or backup goalie) up for extensions. We severely lack cap space with the massive amount of money tied up in our defense.

 

[haveandare]

Yes but we have no cap space to re-sign him, with Kreider, Stepan, Yandle, Miller, Fast and Talbot (or backup goalie) up for extensions. We severely lack cap space with the massive amount of money tied up in our defense.

Could let MSL go. Or, and I suspect people aren't going to like this, we have 3 highly paid shutdown d-men. Staal is the best by an awful lot IMO. G is probably the worst, but he's also the hardest to move. Klein? He's been solid, very good at times, but what's his hit? Can we not replace him with someone cheaper without taking a huge drop in play? His skill set isn't exactly rare.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Could let MSL go. Or, and I suspect people aren't going to like this, we have 3 highly paid shutdown d-men. Staal is the best by an awful lot IMO. G is probably the worst, but he's also the hardest to move. Klein? He's been solid, very good at times, but what's his hit? Can we not replace him with someone cheaper without taking a huge drop in play? His skill set isn't exactly rare.

My calculations already include MSL walking this summer.

 

[Off Sides]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=98353913&postcount=295

Just to be clear, that indicates they could use a regular buyout on Boyle's contract, even on a plus 35 contract?

And it would end up being for 2/3rd of the remaining 4.5M salary, which equates to 3M, which would be spread out over two years, = a 1.5M cap hit for 2015-16 and 2016-17?

I found this link as well, so apparently capgeek was pretty sure on that being the case
https://twitter.com/capgeek/status/352637857673920513

 

[RangerBoy]

My calculations already include MSL walking this summer.

Have you discussed this with Sather?

 

[RangerBoy]

War on Ice has a buyout calculator on their site.

 

[Kovalev27]

Im thinking I rather have Buchnevich here over MSL regardless of what happens this summer.

Even Haggerty.

Point being Id like to keep a spot open in the top 9 for a Kid and Id like to move miller up into the top 6 with ck and step

 

[Ola]

Im thinking I rather have Buchnevich here over MSL regardless of what happens this summer.

Even Haggerty.

Point being Id like to keep a spot open in the top 9 for a Kid and Id like to move miller up into the top 6 with ck and step

How did Nash look last year on that line?

MSL will step up his game.mhe don't have to be better than he is right now, he has been around before.

 

[Ola]

The MAJOR issue with this team right now is that we to a big extent have the team we have. This is a roster that is quite smaller than the team we had last year, especially up front. Last years team lost the battles infront of the net.

Boston is a good hockey team still, mainly struggling due to Chara not being the work horse he has been and injuries and lost players on the blue line. We could play them in the first round, what if they beat us by playing really physical hockey? If we loose this year because we are too small and not physical enough -- what do we do then?

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

There'll probably be two spots for kids. Glass will not be here next season and Hagelin probably won't be either.

The reality with Buch is that he's going to want a salary at least near what some Russian team will give him. Sather is old-fashioned and won't give in when push comes to shove.

At the end of the day, he's gotta want it like Cherepanov and Anisimov did.

 

[Inferno]

The MAJOR issue with this team right now is that we to a big extent have the team we have. This is a roster that is quite smaller than the team we had last year, especially up front. Last years team lost the battles infront of the net.

Boston is a good hockey team still, mainly struggling due to Chara not being the work horse he has been and injuries and lost players on the blue line. We could play them in the first round, what if they beat us by playing really physical hockey? If we loose this year because we are too small and not physical enough -- what do we do then?

if we beat bawstun 4-0 what do we do then?

if if if.

the playoffs are a tossup. you want to get there, with home ice. after that, what happens, happens.

 

[Kovalev27]

How are we smaller?

Added hayes in the middle

Sheppard Miller Glass

Not smaller

 

[haveandare]

The MAJOR issue with this team right now is that we to a big extent have the team we have. This is a roster that is quite smaller than the team we had last year, especially up front. Last years team lost the battles infront of the net.

Boston is a good hockey team still, mainly struggling due to Chara not being the work horse he has been and injuries and lost players on the blue line. We could play them in the first round, what if they beat us by playing really physical hockey? If we loose this year because we are too small and not physical enough -- what do we do then?

How is this team quite smaller than last year's? Hayes and Miller are both big, and Miller is one of the few players on this team that hits with some fire. Lost Pouliot and Richards, gained Hayes and Miller. Am I forgetting some other way we lost a significant amount of size? Stralman didn't play particularly big. Also, Sheppard is a pretty big boy.

As for the Boston idea, two things. 1. Worry about what-ifs when they materialize IMO, 2. This team could lose to Boston and not necessarily lose to them because they're too small.

If they do happen to lose to Boston and it does happen to be obvious that they lost because of lack of size, letting MSL walk and moving up Miller or moving in Buch somewhere would be a pretty obvious response. The only other guy who is really small in the big scheme of things is Zucc, and he's very, very feisty.

The net front battles that they lost routine were mostly to LA if I remember right, and it was mostly NYR defense letting LA's forwards have free run of the crease. In that case, where would they possible add size on D next year? Maybe in Boyle's spot if they could move him somehow? But McD, G, Staal, Klein and Yandle aren't exactly small guys. Yandle doesn't bring much physicality but the rest of them do.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

The MAJOR issue with this team right now is that we to a big extent have the team we have. This is a roster that is quite smaller than the team we had last year, especially up front. Last years team lost the battles infront of the net.

Boston is a good hockey team still, mainly struggling due to Chara not being the work horse he has been and injuries and lost players on the blue line. We could play them in the first round, what if they beat us by playing really physical hockey? If we loose this year because we are too small and not physical enough -- what do we do then?

This team is better offensively and defensively... if they're struggling because of injuries, their star aging, and they lost players, they're actually NOT good. 2/3 of those things are not fixable.

 

[Kovalev27]

There is no MAJOR issue with this team

IMO we should be a Cup Favorite. And if anything we are one of if not the most complete team in the league from the coaching to the goaltender thru the D and upfront.

To say we have a MAJOR issue is kind of silly. Since Dec we've run over the league and half of the time it's been with a back up goalie

 

[Doctyl]

There is no MAJOR issue with this team

IMO we should be a Cup Favorite. And if anything we are one of if not the most complete team in the league from the coaching to the goaltender thru the D and upfront.

To say we have a MAJOR issue is kind of silly. Since Dec we've run over the league and half of the time it's been with a back up goalie

meh team is flawed imo

 

[Inferno]

There is no MAJOR issue with this team

IMO we should be a Cup Favorite. And if anything we are one of if not the most complete team in the league from the coaching to the goaltender thru the D and upfront.

To say we have a MAJOR issue is kind of silly. Since Dec we've run over the league and half of the time it's been with a back up goalie

yeah i agree...i dont think there are many problems with this team.

id say the biggest problem is the underwhelming performance of MSL...and i'll bet that a future HOFer comes up with a big performance in these playoffs.

 

[Kovalev27]

Yandle is right there is no weak spot on this team

We're playoff tested too

This is our best shot at the Cup since 1994. Time to finish it boys

 

[Kovalev27]

yeah i agree...i dont think there are many problems with this team.

id say the biggest problem is the underwhelming performance of MSL...and i'll bet that a future HOFer comes up with a big performance in these playoffs.

Exactly

If Marty Friggen St. Louis is your weakest link you are in damn good shape. That guy will not limp thru the playoffs. He'll bring it

 

[Inferno]

Exactly

If Marty Friggen St. Louis is your weakest link you are in damn good shape. That guy will not limp thru the playoffs. He'll bring it

we all know Kreider elevates his game in the playoffs...that will help Stepan & MSL. it seems like as Kreider goes, so goes that line. which isnt surprising considering what he brings to the table.

 

[Doctyl]

MSL or Boyle may be the weak spots...so basically we're ****ing stacked. G is a bit underwhelming as a 1RD, but our depth more than makes up for him being the 1RD. Hayes is a big hole on face-offs, but Shep or Moore can pinch in during final minute face-offs in the D-zone.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

How is this team quite smaller than last year's? Hayes and Miller are both big, and Miller is one of the few players on this team that hits with some fire. Lost Pouliot and Richards, gained Hayes and Miller. Am I forgetting some other way we lost a significant amount of size? Stralman didn't play particularly big. Also, Sheppard is a pretty big boy.

As for the Boston idea, two things. 1. Worry about what-ifs when they materialize IMO, 2. This team could lose to Boston and not necessarily lose to them because they're too small.

If they do happen to lose to Boston and it does happen to be obvious that they lost because of lack of size, letting MSL walk and moving up Miller or moving in Buch somewhere would be a pretty obvious response. The only other guy who is really small in the big scheme of things is Zucc, and he's very, very feisty.

The net front battles that they lost routine were mostly to LA if I remember right, and it was mostly NYR defense letting LA's forwards have free run of the crease. In that case, where would they possible add size on D next year? Maybe in Boyle's spot if they could move him somehow? But McD, G, Staal, Klein and Yandle aren't exactly small guys. Yandle doesn't bring much physicality but the rest of them do.

Brian Boyle. But I disagree that we're smaller. No team is beating us strictly by being physical, that's for sure.

 

[Levitate]

There'll probably be two spots for kids. Glass will not be here next season and Hagelin probably won't be either.

The reality with Buch is that he's going to want a salary at least near what some Russian team will give him. Sather is old-fashioned and won't give in when push comes to shove.

At the end of the day, he's gotta want it like Cherepanov and Anisimov did.

There's a rookie contract max, he'll get what the team is allowed to give him. They can structure it with bonuses so that if he reaches those bonuses then we'll all be happy with how he played anyways

 

[BBKers]

Offseason Trades
Carl Hagelin to Buffalo for St Louis 2015 1st rounder at the draft
Cameron Talbot to Edmonton for Edmontons 2nd rounder 2015 at the draft
Tanner Glass + NYR 6th 2016 to Dallas for a 2016 5th after July 1

Offseason Signings
UFAs
MSL signs at $2,000,000/1 year plus deferrable bonuses
Jhonas Enroth signs at $1,000,000/2 years
James Sheppard (likely) walks

RFAs/ELCs
Derek Stepan signs at 6,000,000/ 6 years
JT Miller's QO for a 2 year bridge is $874,125
Dylan McIlrath's QO for a 2 year bridge is $850,500
Jesper Fast's QO for a 2 year bridge is $840,000
Oscar Lindberg's QO for a 2 year bridge is $787,500
Carl Klingberg's QO for a 2 year bridge is $682,500
Pavel Buchnevich signs ELC at $925,000 plus bonuses

Longshots
Try to pickup 1-2 dark horse unsigned/undrafted €uros (especially if KHLs $$$ problems worsen), or some other unsigned players.

KHL
Some interesting names here (outside Kovalchuk and Radulov) in the KHL might include:

Artemy Panarin
Jonas Enlund
Jan Kovar
Vladimir Sobotka
Vasily Koshechkin
Danis Zaripov
Sergei Mozyakin
Steve Moses
Roman Červenka
Brandon Bochenski
Mikko Koskinen (if we actually were to trade Cam)

Look at other €uropean leagues, juniors and unsigned NCAA players as well

NCAA
Some unsigned names that should be out of interest in the Collegiate World include:

Casey Bailey, RW, Penn State University (Big Ten)
Kyle Baun, RW, Colgate University (ECAC)
Austin Czarnik, C, Miami University (NCHC)
Daniel Doremus, C, University of Denver (NCHC)
Cole Bardreau, C, Cornell University (ECAC)
Daniel Ciampini, C, Union College (ECAC)
Andrew Gladiuk, RW, Bentley University (Atlantic Hockey)
Tanner Kero, C, Michigan Tech University (WCHA)
Ahti Oksanen, F/D, Boston University (Hockey East)
Drew Brevig, D, Ohio State University (Big Ten)
Kenney Morrison, D, Western Michigan University (NCHC)
Oleg Yevenko, D, University of Massachusetts (Hockey East)
Zach Palmquist, D, Minnesota State University, Mankato (WCHA)
Kevin Tansey, D, Clarkson University (ECAC)
Matt O’Connor, G, Boston University (Hockey East)
C.J. Motte, G, Ferris State University (WCHA)

Lines 2015/2016
1 Nash - Brassard - Zucc
2A Buchnevich - Stepan - MSL
2B Kreider - Hayes - Miller
4 Lindberg - Moore - Fast(h)
Klingberg

McD - Girardi
Yandle - Klein
Staal - Boyle
McIllWrath

King
Enroth

Draft 2015
Chicago 1st (from Arizona for Carl Hagelin)
Edmontons 2nd (for Prince Cam)
TBL 2nd
NYR 3rd
NYR 4th
NYR 6th

In 2016 we would have an extra 5th rounder (Glass => Dallas) but be without a first rounder (Yandle <= Arizona) and also minus a 6th rounder in the Glass deal.

Cap is still tight though. Real tight

 

[Ola]

if we beat bawstun 4-0 what do we do then?

if if if.

the playoffs are a tossup. you want to get there, with home ice. after that, what happens, happens.

Yeah, but the big risk is that we aren't big and physical enough, that's why we lost the last time and nobody can claim that we bulked up enough to match LAs ability to get to the net, or defend our net. We are at best status que. It's not a pink elephant theory.

If it's one thing this team can improve, it's first and foremost getting bigger up front, get more players who goes real hard to the net and open up space there.