Salary Cap: 2014-15 Roster-building Thread XI : Yeah still looking.

[Riptide]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.

2014-2015 salary ceiling: ....69,000,000
Projected cap spending: ......68,733,167
Projected cap space: ...............175,000
Projected deadline space: ......1,547,198


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

27​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

26​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

27​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

34​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

Brandon Sutter|

C​

|

25​

|

3,300,000​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Spaling|

LW​

|

25​

|

2,200,000​

|

2,200,000​

|

UFA​

Marcel Goc|

C​

|

30​

|

1,200,000​

|

UFA​

Steve Downie|

RW​

|

27​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Beau Bennett|

LW​

|

22​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

Jayson Megna|

RW​

|

24​

|

874,125​

|

RFA​

Blake Comeau|

LW​

|

28​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Craig Adams|

RW​

|

37​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Zach Sill|

C​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

27​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Paul Martin|

D​

|

33​

|

5,000,000​

|

UFA​

Christian Ehrhoff|

D​

|

32​

|

4,000,000​

|

UFA​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

35​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

Simon Despres|

D​

|

22​

|

900,000​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

19​

|

894,167​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Robert Bortuzzo|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie...................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

29​

|

5,000,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Thomas Greiss|

G​

|

28​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Injured reserve......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

35​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

21​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

22​

|

655,000​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

22​

|

652,500​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Adam Payerl|

RW​

|

23​

|

626,667​

|

RFA​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

21​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

20​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

21​

|

601,667​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

22​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

20​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Bobby Farnham|

LW​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

Andrew Ebbett|

C​

|

31​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Drazenovic|

C​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|

RW​

|

29​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Defense..............................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

20​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

22​

|

831,667​

|

RFA​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

21​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Scott Harrington|

D​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

22​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Philip Samuelsson|

D​

|

22​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

Taylor Chorney|

D​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie................................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

20​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

27​

|

600,000​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

WHEELING NAILERS

Defense........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Nick D'Agostino|

D​

|

23​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie...........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Eric Hartzell|

G​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Kasperi Kapanen|

RW​

|

18​

|

KalPa (Liiga)​

|

3 years/925,000 per​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

20​

|

SkellefteÃ¥ (SHL)​

|

3 years/708,333 per​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

19​

|

Edmonton (WHL)​

|

3 years/650,833 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

18​

|Omaha (USHL)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

18​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

19​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

19​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

19​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

20​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

19​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

18​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

21​

|Boston University (HEA)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

24​

|Magnitogorsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

20​

|Union (ECAC)

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[Michael8771*]

Yeah BB, that was pretty bad, no pitch forks out but yeah, no fun at all.

 

[AR5]

Wow. excellent find with the EDM clip.

Can't imagine that kind of environment would be a great one for any of their young players to develop in.

Hope Sutter doesn't get too bummed out by that reception...

Can only imagine it will be a worse environment up in EDM if GMJR pulls off a trade that is way more in PGH's favor. But. maybe that's what EDM is trying to do with GMJR, and pull one over on him, the way Ray Shero did, repeatedly, to JR while in Carolina.

 

[ObsessedCreative*]

Nice find there BillyB that video was hilarious and cringe worthy all in one.

 

[Riptide]

Seems from this quote, that Yakupov isn't as highly thought of as Eberle. Maybe we can pry him away easier, along with Perron for Sutter/+

Yak doesn't seem to be highly thought of throughout the league, EDM would be smart to hold onto him. But if not; Dumo, 2nd and Kuhnhackl, maybe a 3rd in 2016 could do it....

Yak is a hard player to try and establish value on. On one hand, he's a former 1st overall, has 40+ goal potential, is very creative, playing fairly well right now, still on his ELC, and showed in his first season that he can score at this level. On the other hand, he hasn't really shown a lot of improvement (despite playing well right now), and he hasn't really built (statistically) on his rookie season. He's Russian, and regardless of how many times he says he wants to stay in the NHL, there's always going to be that nagging doubt in the back of your mind that asks... "how hard can we push him in a contract negotiation" or "how firm can we really be with him" before Russian and the KHL potentially become a valid option for him? Do I think he'll go there? No. But that doubt will almost always be there (at least until he establishes himself as a NHL star), and that doubt will hinder his value around the league.

 

[Michael8771*]

Wow. excellent find with the EDM clip.

Can't imagine that kind of environment would be a great one for any of their young players to develop in.

Hope Sutter doesn't get too bummed out by that reception...

Can only imagine it will be a worse environment up in EDM if GMJR pulls off a trade that is way more in PGH's favor. But. maybe that's what EDM is trying to do with GMJR, and pull one over on him, the way Ray Shero did, repeatedly, to JR while in Carolina.

Still don't like Your Avatar by the way... but I think JR runs all trades by ownership. So, if he exhibits poor judgement, Mario can step in and nix the trade.

 

[Kiith Nabaal]

LeBrun: I don't think there's anything imminent, but I'd be shocked if #Pens didn't acquire a top-six winger by the trade deadline.

https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/...13880943607808

LeBrun: NHL trade talks "really picking up." #Oilers are at the heart of it. http://www.nicholsonhockey.com/worth...lly-picking-up …

That doesn't really sound like the Penguins are in on some or maybe even any of the Edmonton players.

I don't really know how this stuff works, but I imagine the organization tries to factor in possession stats. If the Edmonton players can't play too much of a possession game, I wouldn't be surprised if they passed on them.

 

[pensfan71]

That doesn't really sound like the Penguins are in on some or maybe even any of the Edmonton players.

I don't really know how this stuff works, but I imagine the organization tries to factor in possession stats. If the Edmonton players can't play too much of a possession game, I wouldn't be surprised if they passed on them.

There's literally never anything bout the Pens ever.

Last big rumor was Kesler...

 

[hooverdam]

Yak is a hard player to try and establish value on. On one hand, he's a former 1st overall, has 40+ goal potential, is very creative, playing fairly well right now, still on his ELC, and showed in his first season that he can score at this level. On the other hand, he hasn't really shown a lot of improvement (despite playing well right now), and he hasn't really built (statistically) on his rookie season. He's Russian, and regardless of how many times he says he wants to stay in the NHL, there's always going to be that nagging doubt in the back of your mind that asks... "how hard can we push him in a contract negotiation" or "how firm can we really be with him" before Russian and the KHL potentially become a valid option for him? Do I think he'll go there? No. But that doubt will almost always be there (at least until he establishes himself as a NHL star), and that doubt will hinder his value around the league.

That's why they should trade Yak to the Pens, he can stay with Malkin and have all the Russian culture he needs.

In all seriousness, beyond what Yakupov could bring on the ice, I think a mentor/mentoree relationship would be mutually beneficial for them.

 

[Crozbar]

Wow. excellent find with the EDM clip.

Can't imagine that kind of environment would be a great one for any of their young players to develop in.

Hope Sutter doesn't get too bummed out by that reception...

Can only imagine it will be a worse environment up in EDM if GMJR pulls off a trade that is way more in PGH's favor. But. maybe that's what EDM is trying to do with GMJR, and pull one over on him, the way Ray Shero did, repeatedly, to JR while in Carolina.

Wow, that clip was brutal. I was at that game; needless to say, the Oilers looked so bad out there.

I'm game for the Pens to fleece em for a wing, of course. It would definitely turn the heat up to 11, but I think Katz is too solidly behind Lowe, whom really, really, needs to go. And Lowe is behind MacT, who will look ridiculous if he fires Eakins, because he dumped Krueger in favor of him for stupid reasons to begin with.

So maybe all that equals shaking things up with a trade. In any case it really does seem like Perron is going to be gone, but I would hope for a bigger fish.

 

[vodeni]

That's why they should trade Yak to the Pens, he can stay with Malkin and have all the Russian culture he needs.

In all seriousness, beyond what Yakupov could bring on the ice, I think a mentor/mentoree relationship would be mutually beneficial for them.

Imagine first minus game from those two: The wrath of Mark Madden

 

[Riptide]

That's why they should trade Yak to the Pens, he can stay with Malkin and have all the Russian culture he needs.

In all seriousness, beyond what Yakupov could bring on the ice, I think a mentor/mentoree relationship would be mutually beneficial for them.

I don't doubt that (either point). However it still has to be a concern, and an issue when it comes to what his actual value is. And the KHL thing is only one part of it. He went from scoring at a 30g pace his rookie season to practically nothing. So just in terms of potential (even without looking at the KHL threat) where does he fall?

 

[Michael8771*]

I don't doubt that (either point). However it still has to be a concern, and an issue when it comes to what his actual value is. And the KHL thing is only one part of it. He went from scoring at a 30g pace his rookie season to practically nothing. So just in terms of potential (even without looking at the KHL threat) where does he fall?

Certainly a high risk/reward player. We could strike gold or we could just strike out.

 

[Country Mac]

Wow. excellent find with the EDM clip.

Can't imagine that kind of environment would be a great one for any of their young players to develop in.

Hope Sutter doesn't get too bummed out by that reception...

Can only imagine it will be a worse environment up in EDM if GMJR pulls off a trade that is way more in PGH's favor. But. maybe that's what EDM is trying to do with GMJR, and pull one over on him, the way Ray Shero did, repeatedly, to JR while in Carolina.

You don't think we have a 4-headed GM in part to make sure that JR doesn't get bent over like he did in the Carolina days?

I wanna see something like Sutter, Despres, pick/prospect for Perron and Yak. Value would be even depending on the add, and we could churn out a forward group of:

Perron-Crosby-Hörnqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Yakupov
Bennett-Spaling-Downie
Comeau-Goc-Megna
Adams

 

[pensfan71]

You don't think we have a 4-headed GM in part to make sure that JR doesn't get bent over like he did in the Carolina days?

I wanna see something like Sutter, Despres, pick/prospect for Perron and Yak. Value would be even depending on the add, and we could churn out a forward group of:

Perron-Crosby-Hörnqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Yakupov
Bennett-Spaling-Downie
Comeau-Goc-Megna
Adams

I don't think Despres get's traded tbh. He's a rock and management seems to love him.

 

[AR5]

I don't doubt that (either point). However it still has to be a concern, and an issue when it comes to what his actual value is. And the KHL thing is only one part of it. He went from scoring at a 30g pace his rookie season to practically nothing. So just in terms of potential (even without looking at the KHL threat) where does he fall?

Which might mean we could potentially grab him from EDM for an established Canadian/US citizen, who will play in the NHL for the forseeable future.

Despres or Dumo anyone?

 

[AR5]

I don't think Despres get's traded tbh. He's a rock and management seems to love him.

I think EDM's management would love him too.

That's why this proposal makes sense.

We have solid D depth behind Despres, and we've built Despres' reputation up already very nicely, compared to the Bylsma years.

I dont doubt that he will continue to become incredible for us. But, then again, so could Yak. And we need that Top 6. EDM needs their D.

 

[hooverdam]

Imagine first minus game from those two: The wrath of Mark Madden

His head would actually explode. Now I want this to happen.

I don't doubt that (either point). However it still has to be a concern, and an issue when it comes to what his actual value is. And the KHL thing is only one part of it. He went from scoring at a 30g pace his rookie season to practically nothing. So just in terms of potential (even without looking at the KHL threat) where does he fall?

Yeah I see what you mean, but the lower his value, the easier it is to acquire him, no matter what it is that lowers his value. I just think the presence of Malkin could help alleviate some of that doubt on our end. And it's not just Malkin, really; the influence of other guys like Crosby, Sutter, even Dupuis to a certain extent could go a long way to maximizing his potential. Yakupov is a kid playing decently with a bunch of other kids following the sterling example of...Andrew Ference? Their coach benched Hall for spilling water on him. Their GM thinks acquiring a center is what they need to do to stop bleeding goals against. You can't really gauge his potential because the situation he's in is a mess right now.

 

[pensfan71]

I think EDM's management would love him too.

That's why this proposal makes sense.

We have solid D depth behind Despres, and we've built Despres' reputation up already very nicely, compared to the Bylsma years.

I dont doubt that he will continue to become incredible for us. But, then again, so could Yak. And we need that Top 6. EDM needs their D.

This deal would be heartbreaking for me, Despres has been nothing but solid...Yak is such a tossup....

 

[Speaking Moistly]

I don't doubt that (either point). However it still has to be a concern, and an issue when it comes to what his actual value is. And the KHL thing is only one part of it. He went from scoring at a 30g pace his rookie season to practically nothing. So just in terms of potential (even without looking at the KHL threat) where does he fall?

I think his attainable potential is more important than his theoretical potential at this point. His scoring dropped off noticeably, but aside from that he's been in that disaster for more time and exposed to Eakins. The values for trading him won't line up but there's a lot to fix from Edmonton and I doubt everything can be undone.

 

[AR5]

This deal would be heartbreaking for me, Despres has been nothing but solid...Yak is such a tossup....

Yak could become the next Malkin at wing for us. 40+ elite Top 6 winger in 4-5 years!

Yeah, granted, Despres is looking very impressive now. But Yak's ceiling is through the roof. And with Geno, that might prevent any KHL ideas.

 

[pensfan71]

Yak could become the next Malkin at wing for us. 40+ elite Top 6 winger in 4-5 years!

Yeah, granted, Despres is looking very impressive now. But Yak's ceiling is through the roof. And with Geno, that might prevent any KHL ideas.

Would be the only reason I make this deal, plus Harrington plays a similar game

 

[billybudd]

Wow. excellent find with the EDM clip.

Can't imagine that kind of environment would be a great one for any of their young players to develop in.

Clip in question




That's exactly the problem. That's why the Oilers need to do something--anything--right now.

Perron snapped the other day. He had enough and the platitudes failed in front of the media. Now the Ontario media smells blood and has airtime to fill, ratcheting the pressure up even worse. Meanwhile, the American media--which doesn't normally know that Edmonton even exists as a city--is ridiculing the Oilers brass for firing the goaltending coach, as if he's why they've had 9 seasons of failure in a row.

Oilers can't take the chance that Hall or Nugent-Hopkins is the next guy to say he's had enough. And the Oilers are in a horrible negotiating position.

The word toxic gets thrown around a lot, but Edmonton's situation is genuinely toxic right now. They need to defuse the pressure somehow. Not at the trade deadline, not next summer, now.

 

[Crozbar]

This deal would be heartbreaking for me, Despres has been nothing but solid...Yak is such a tossup....

... Feel the same way, also worried about the Pens getting fleeced like the original post I quoted above also mentioned. Pieces like Sutter and (moreso) Despres, bring something different and valuable, and a bit move proven ... all to be lost for something a little more questionable. (Especially as it seems like Despres is finally fulfilling his promise.) But Yak does have massive potential.

 

[Country Mac]

This deal would be heartbreaking for me, Despres has been nothing but solid...Yak is such a tossup....

Don't get me wrong, I love Despres and think he can become a top pairing Dman in this league.

However, in trades, you need to give to get, and Yakupov, despite being ridiculed on the Internet, is quite the big fish. Crazy skilled with 1st overall draft pedigree.

I'm not sure there's a city in the entire league that would be a better environment for him to blossom. He'd get to learn from probably the most accomplished Russian player in the league, there's quality Russian culture in Pittsburgh (pierogies 'n'at), and he'd have a clean slate. He wouldn't be playing in a fishbowl like he is in Edmonton.

He'd get on a line with one of the two best playmaking centers in the world, playing a system that fits his strengths like a glove. He can skate like the wind, shoot lasers, carry the puck, and play with the energy that we can still see sometimes this team lacks. He's a puck hound, and he'd be in a position to thrive here.

We have the defensive depth to replace Despres. Maybe not his nastiness, size, and physicality, but we're too deep on the back end to pass up a kid like Yakupov. There's plenty of risk involved, but there is an absolutely astronomical payoff if he puts it together here.