Prospect Info: 2014/15 OKC Barons Thread 2: Gerry Fleming Named Head Coach of the Condors

[CanadianSuperPromise]

Can we please get Acton out of this organization. He's cutting into Khaira and Yakimov's minutes.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Can we please get Acton out of this organization. He's cutting into Khaira and Yakimov's minutes.

I didn't watch any of today's game, but to the best of my knowledge Yakimov is still injured. Looking at the boxscore it looks like it was Davidson's first game back and Brad Hunt played his 1st AHL game of the season netting 2 goals and 1 assist, also it looks like Brossoit is now healthy enough to atleast dress as the back-up.

 

[Baronsfan]

Can we please get Acton out of this organization. He's cutting into Khaira and Yakimov's minutes.

Yak is injured, and I think tonight might've just been a case that Acton was MUCH more involved than Khaira so he got rewarded with extra minutes. Only time Khaira was very noticeable was when he took two penalties. If Khaira can't assert himself enough to demand playing time over Will Acton, then that's probably a problem. It's like someone complaining about Matt Ford taking Moroz's minutes, it's just that Moroz hasn't done jack in the AHL with the chances he's been given. Curious to see if he doesn't pick it up if he possibly is ECHL bound to jump start his game.

 

[sepHF]

I haven't sat down and watched any games yet this year but it looks like all of our forward prospects are really struggling offensively.

Moroz 9GP 0 points
Lander 11GP 2 goals
Pitlick 6GP 1 goal
Ewanyk 10GP 0 goals 1 assist
Yakimov 8GP 1 goal

Gazdic has more goals then almost all of them

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

I haven't sat down and watched any games yet this year but it looks like all of our forward prospects are really struggling offensively.

Moroz 9GP 0 points
Lander 11GP 2 goals
Pitlick 6GP 1 goal
Ewanyk 10GP 0 goals 1 assist
Yakimov 8GP 1 goal

Gazdic has more goals then almost all of them

What assists don't count anymore!?


Pitlick was playing better hockey down there then he ever has, he was performing very well in the role he was given. Lander started slow, but started to turn his game around he plays both sides of the puck and is a big part of the team down there 8 points in 11 games isn't bad and he has an abornmally bad shooting percentage at 5.9%.

Yakimov and Moroz are making a pretty big transition it isn't easy adjusting to the AHL game, it takes time, they should get progressively better as the season rolls along. Yakimov was looking a little better every game upto his injury and Moroz looks like he is trying to swim in quicksand. Ewanyk is actually a pretty useful character guy in the role he plays, don't expect offense from him he's a Colin Fraser type player, he's enjoyably to watch and has intangibles and is a useful PK guy.

 

[Digger12]

Not sure if anyone has noticed or even cares, but Hunt has been destroying AHL competition since his demotion.

5-3-7-10, which includes another 3 points last night and the game's 1st star.

Averaging 2 PPG is outstanding production at any level, especially for a dman. Not saying he should be back up here or anything, but he's been great for OKC, which can only help the other prospects on that team.

Lander also had his best offensive game of the year so far, 2-1-3 and 8 shots on goal.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Moroz got his first career pro point last night, Ewanyk with his first goal of the year and Kessy with an assist giving him 3-3-6 in 11 games this season.

 

[McDrai]

Not sure if anyone has noticed or even cares, but Hunt has been destroying AHL competition since his demotion.

5-3-7-10, which includes another 3 points last night and the game's 1st star.

Averaging 2 PPG is outstanding production at any level, especially for a dman. Not saying he should be back up here or anything, but he's been great for OKC, which can only help the other prospects on that team.

Lander also had his best offensive game of the year so far, 2-1-3 and 8 shots on goal.

Too bad those guys can't do anything at the NHL level. Lander moreso than Hunt

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Too bad those guys can't do anything at the NHL level. Lander moreso than Hunt

Hunt could be really good but he just doesn't work up here

 

[Baronsfan]

It's not Hunt's fault that Eakins threw him in a much bigger role than he was ready for. He should have never been playing 17-20 mins a night with a d man who is prone to take risks that sometimes you have to cover for like Schultz. Hunt might not be a world beater but let him get more limited minutes and get more comfortable on the Oil pp and I imagine he would look lots better and not be exposed so much.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

It's not Hunt's fault that Eakins threw him in a much bigger role than he was ready for. He should have never been playing 17-20 mins a night with a d man who is prone to take risks that sometimes you have to cover for like Schultz. Hunt might not be a world beater but let him get more limited minutes and get more comfortable on the Oil pp and I imagine he would look lots better and not be exposed so much.

3rd pairing and 2nd PP unit time and maybe he'd look like a useful player. That said I prefer Aulie for this club.

 

[Spawn]

Hunt's way to slow a player for the NHL level to make up for his lack of size, grit, or defensive ability.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Hunt's way to slow a player for the NHL level to make up for his lack of size, grit, or defensive ability.

I agree with the above except for the grit part, but he is one hell of an AHL player. In the hysteria of Hunt hate I remember someone saying they wouldn't even play him on the AHL team which is utter nonsense. If Hunt can improve just his mobility significantly I think he can play in the NHL as a mostly PP specialist. He can play a Marc Andre Bergeron kind of role, he's a bit smarter then him, but Bergeron played with more of a chip on his shoulder.

 

[dixs35]

Hunt's way to slow a player for the NHL level to make up for his lack of size, grit, or defensive ability.

This and so much more. he's completely one dimensional and that dimension isn't close to being elite at the NHL level. He can be and is dominant at the AHL level but doesn't have the rest of the skills mainly speed to compete in the NHL. He is the D equivalent to Alexandre Giroux. Keep him far away from the big club unless injuries are to point that there is no other choice, but even then I would rather see real prospects like Gernat, Simpson or even Davidson.

 

[Baronsfan]

3rd pairing and 2nd PP unit time and maybe he'd look like a useful player. That said I prefer Aulie for this club.

Which I'm surprised Aulie has played well so far up there. He was a hot mess down here and really didn't play well at all. That being said the guy is a warrior and you can't fault his commitment level.

 

[Baronsfan]

This and so much more. he's completely one dimensional and that dimension isn't close to being elite at the NHL level. He can be and is dominant at the AHL level but doesn't have the rest of the skills mainly speed to compete in the NHL. He is the D equivalent to Alexandre Giroux. Keep him far away from the big club unless injuries are to point that there is no other choice, but even then I would rather see real prospects like Gernat, Simpson or even Davidson.

Which 2 of the 3 d men you named were healthy scratches today, and Gernat has been scratched last 3 or 4 games in a row so he apparently has taken a backseat to AHL contracted cj Ludwig. Oesterle started the season well so he is another one worth mentioning but his play is starting to taper off. He is another one That I fear lacks the physicality to handle the NHL.

As far as okc d men one thing is for sure, it lacks grit on the back end. Every one of them are skilled, but we are missing even just one guy who will punish. Pretty sure Davidson is our most physical D now, which all the others I have no problem labeling soft.

 

[Baronsfan]

Hunt's way to slow a player for the NHL level to make up for his lack of size, grit, or defensive ability.

He mentioned that at his biggest improvement he needs to make. He is a hard worker, but I'm not sure he can improve it so much as to override the deficiencies you mentioned. He has the tools to be an effective asset on the pp, but as you say he does lack in other areas.

 

[Sheikyerbouti]

As far as okc d men one thing is for sure, it lacks grit on the back end. Every one of them are skilled, but we are missing even just one guy who will punish. Pretty sure Davidson is our most physical D now, which all the others I have no problem labeling soft.

What about Musil?

This parallels one of the biggest problems on the Oil imo

 

[bone]

What's the deal with San Antonio anyways. The Barons have an awesome record against the rest of the league but can't beat the Rampage. They are 8-2-1 in games against anyone but San Antonio, yet San Antonio is only 7-6 against the rest of the league. If they can figure them out, they may be able to have quite a season.

 

[oiler4ever]

Barons 3 Stars 2 OT
The game didn't start very well. Unlike the parent club Oilers, the farmers did not give up, they fought back, third period down by two goals@ Cedar Park Center. Andrew Miller and Pakarainen scored to tie game. Jordan Oesterle scored the OT winner, although i still thinks it went off Ford's skates.
Barons scratched Williams and Ludwig

Pakarinen Lander Pitlick
Hamilton Yakimov Miller
Moroz Lain Ford
Ewanyk Khaira Kessy

Davidson Hunt
Musil Oesterle
Simpson Gernat

OKC is very strong down in the middle, big strong centres. Khaira and Yakimov needs to improve their skating.
the line of Ewanyk Khaira Kessy is much like Hanson brothers out there, they hit everything in sight. Lain made some impressive play tonight but i am not all impressed with Moroz.

Strong centers, strong forecheck but our D is very soft.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Barons 3 Stars 2 OT
The game didn't start very well. Unlike the parent club Oilers, the farmers did not give up, they fought back, third period down by two goals@ Cedar Park Center. Andrew Miller and Pakarainen scored to tie game. Jordan Oesterle scored the OT winner, although i still thinks it went off Ford's skates.
Barons scratched Williams and Ludwig

Pakarinen Lander Pitlick
Hamilton Yakimov Miller
Moroz Lain Ford
Ewanyk Khaira Kessy

Davidson Hunt
Musil Oesterle
Simpson Gernat

OKC is very strong down in the middle, big strong centres. Khaira and Yakimov needs to improve their skating.
the line of Ewanyk Khaira Kessy is much like Hanson brothers out there, they hit everything in sight. Lain made some impressive play tonight but i am not all impressed with Moroz.

Strong centers, strong forecheck but our D is very soft.

Is it just me or do you see skating as an issue with him? I think that with an extra step he'd be much better. He needs a healthy offseason to really work hard on his skating and core strength and then come back with a big 2nd pro season.

 

[oiler4ever]

Is it just me or do you see skating as an issue with him? I think that with an extra step he'd be much better. He needs a healthy offseason to really work hard on his skating and core strength and then come back with a big 2nd pro season.

His timings and skatings are two seconds behind. If he improve only his skating then he can be our next Kent Manderville, but if he improve his skating and timing then we are talking about Kirk Maltby

 

[Dazed and Confused]

15 points in 17 games, a nice recovery after a slow start. I'm surprised they haven't given Lander a shot this season. It's not like Arcobello or Draisaitl have done anything at the NHL level.

 

[joestevens29]

15 points in 17 games, a nice recovery after a slow start. I'm surprised they haven't given Lander a shot this season. It's not like Arcobello or Draisaitl have done anything at the NHL level.

I think Lander should be given a shot, but I don't mind Arco. He is out there trying every game and he plays a smart game defensively. Always seems to be the guy covering for his teammates.

 

[McMozesmadness]

Can someone who watches this team on a daily basis break down every players year so far. (If you have time)

Thanks