IATL: you've said twice now that KP had 8 years on the job and Stu has had 7? Entirely incorrect.
KP was in charge of the 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 07 drafts. So that is 8 years.
Stu was in charge of the 08, 09, 10, 11, and 12 drafts. That's 5 with one on the horizon. You could count this year's work as 6 but we have no means to judge him for it.
Just for those who don't think teams get lucky in the draft since 2008:
Montreal:
Mark MacMillan 113rd
Morgan Ellis 117th
Brendan Gallagher 147th
Chicago:
Phillip Danault 26th
Adam Clendening 36th
Brandon Saad 43rd
Anaheim:
Nicholas Deschamps 35th
Eric O'Dell 39th
Justin Schultz 43rd
If any of those teams knew that those players were going to be that good, they would have taken him earlier. The reason each of those guys dropped was that they had significant flaws that they had to overcome or were "risky" picks. I forget where I heard it but I remember hearing macT say that he wanted his scouts to be able to make their picks this year and go with their gut. I hope we see higher risk high reward players instead of the safe but less rewarding players like Hamilton, Pitlick, Moroz etc. I get we need size but its hard to draft role players.
Stu was hired in 07. That is seven years. At any rate he is coming up quickly on Prendergast's time here.
Completely flawed argument if you're making judgment calls on his body of work as you are. He isn't coming up quickly on Prendergast's time, he has only just passed the halfway point.
Three more drafts to go, including next month's draft, so in just over two years time he will have had the exact same tenure as Prendergast as far as "head scout" goes.
See you then.
There is no way Nichuskin is available at #7, to me he is the BPA.
For offense: I would select Barkov but he shouldn't be available, so I'd be happy with either Monahan or Lindholm.
For defence: I am sold on Zadorov. 6'5 and 230lbs already, big hitter and plays great defence. I'm on the Zadorov wagon. Imagine the future on Edmonton's blueline, a lot of size and hard to play against.
http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/04/21/nikita-zadorov-2013-nhl-draft-player-profile-12/
If Nush is not available at 7 that means that one of Monahan or Lindholm is available. Which one do you pick?
Three more drafts to go, including next month's draft, so in just over two years time he will have had the exact same tenure as Prendergast as far as "head scout" goes.
See you then.
I agree, were theres smoke theres fire! More than enough time for a few surprises to start popping up from the draft table or at least trending the right way. Just isnt happening and how long do we give this guy? The other point which is really sad is we have been given three no brainers with our first overalls if we failed to add anything else in those drafts that is really bad news!
Rajala, Davidson, Gernat, etc. Lots of later round guys are popping up with potential
Monahan without question imo
If Nush is not available at 7 that means that one of Monahan or Lindholm is available. Which one do you pick?
There is not a whole lot of potential here. Rajala is an extremely long shot, his good AHL season notwithstanding. Ditto for Gernat. Barring an epidemics of injuries, Davidson will have to make very significant progress to even get a cup of coffee in the NHL in the next few seasons. But he's a good project.
Just for those who don't think teams get lucky in the draft since 2008:
Montreal:
Mark MacMillan 113rd
Morgan Ellis 117th
Brendan Gallagher 147th
Chicago:
Phillip Danault 26th
Adam Clendening 36th
Brandon Saad 43rd
Anaheim:
Nicholas Deschamps 35th
Eric O'Dell 39th
Justin Schultz 43rd
If any of those teams knew that those players were going to be that good, they would have taken him earlier. The reason each of those guys dropped was that they had significant flaws that they had to overcome or were "risky" picks. I forget where I heard it but I remember hearing macT say that he wanted his scouts to be able to make their picks this year and go with their gut. I hope we see higher risk high reward players instead of the safe but less rewarding players like Hamilton, Pitlick, Moroz etc. I get we need size but its hard to draft role players.
Sean Monahan easily. I don't understand the Lindholm hype. Monahan had no help on his team whatsoever this season and produced respectable numbers.