2013/2014 Minnesota Wild News and Notes - New Division and New Expectations
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Sorry, he stopped being a prospect by middle of last season. You avg well over 20 minutes/game on the top pair, it's safe to say you're no longer hoping he can become a good player...which is essentially what the term prospect means.
He IS a proven good player now...but still has upside.
He IS a proven good player now...but still has upside.
I stopped considering him a prospect when Suter was out for a short time last season and he played #1 D without breaking a sweat.
Bacon is a stud. He is going to be legendary and it is a crime against humanity that he was snubbed for Calder last year.
He has played less than a full season. I'm thinking him as a prospect considering the expectations fans have given him. I don't see an elite defenseman just quite yet. He just as well could be exploited like any other promising player. I expect him to be a real good first pairing defenseman but he still has learning to do, which is more than normal given that it's only the start of his young NHL career.
He played a full lockout shortened season. Just as the NHL adjusted we have to adjust. Brodin, Granlund and Coyle are not rookies, they are not prospects, they are essential parts of the core of this team now.
Entering the season, Brodin was rated as a top 30 NHL defenseman. Sorry, no such thing as a prospect who is a proven top 30 player in his position.
I consider the word prospect differently then. I think it like this: a prospect either hits his projected ceiling or doesn't. Meanwhile it's uncertain that what level he plays on. Until that's clear, the prospect remains as a prospect in my books.
I'm not saying he's not an NHLer already but that he still has to prove he can still improve his game.
E: I'm glad I can finally argue about hockey matters instead of OT stuff
I think you have a rather singular view on what a prospect is. In your view, a player can still be a prospect after playing in the league for 4 years. Doubt many people sear it that way.
Can't agree there.
As I said, I think a prospect is a player you hope will someday become a quality NHL player. Then you have different level of prospects. A blue chipper is likely to become an impact player, possibly elite. He is likely to be a prospect for a shorter length of time, but will still have a lot of upside to go when he graduates from being a prospect.
Can't agree there.
As I said, I think a prospect is a player you hope will someday become a quality NHL player. Then you have different level of prospects. A blue chipper is likely to become an impact player, possibly elite. He is likely to be a prospect for a shorter length of time, but will still have a lot of upside to go when he graduates from being a prospect.
Looking forward, we have a tough four game stretch starting a week from Monday. December, as a whole is tougher, and then January equally as challenging with over half the games against playoff bound teams (at least, ATM- Colorado may sink a bit, prob will continue being playoff bound. Sharks sinking right now).
Like all teams, we need to win the games that are 'more winnable', play as well as we can against the good teams and prove that we belong in the playoffs.
For some of our guys (not named Koivu, Parise, Suter, Pommi maybe, Granlund- is Nino playing for team Swiss? Harding Canada?) the Olympic break will be nice, but that's a large amount of guys from one team that may all be traveling and competing. Let's get as many points as possible before February, so we aren't scrambling during March and April.
Like all teams, we need to win the games that are 'more winnable', play as well as we can against the good teams and prove that we belong in the playoffs.
For some of our guys (not named Koivu, Parise, Suter, Pommi maybe, Granlund- is Nino playing for team Swiss? Harding Canada?) the Olympic break will be nice, but that's a large amount of guys from one team that may all be traveling and competing. Let's get as many points as possible before February, so we aren't scrambling during March and April.
tomgilbertfan
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Loving this, hope the Wild continue to give the same efforts each week.
Totally different feeling watching Olympics, can really hate any of "our" teams, hope everyone stays healthy and has good games on individual level.
I'll be routing for USA, obviously, but I have a soft spot for Finland, and them alone.
I was really surprised how much better our back end looks with Ballard in. Still puzzles me. He is just solid, and has a solid shot at the point that he takes quickly.
I think this team can really get to another level as long as we play within the system that actually works very well for our team. That means better passing, more organized breakouts and enters, less freestyle.
More bacon.
More Coyle.
More FBJ.
Maybe it's just how Yeo plays the lines against opponents? Just a guess since I haven't watched the last 2-4 games without falling asleep or at all.
Just weird that 1 line is hot at the time but what ever works right?
Just weird that 1 line is hot at the time but what ever works right?
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Zach Parise|0.48|0.39|0.86|0.81|4.38|3.42|10.87%|11.27%
Jason Pominville|0.57|0.32|0.76|0.79|3.05|2.77|18.75%|11.60%
Mikko Koivu|0.19|0.22|0.81|0.74|2.43|2.48|7.84%|8.94%
Ryan Suter|0.00|0.07|0.62|0.46|1.90|1.55|0.00%|4.58%
Mikael Granlund|0.10|0.07|0.57|0.30|1.57|1.33|6.06%|5.56%
Nino Niederreiter|0.14|0.03|0.52|0.05|2.10|1.34|6.82%|2.33%
Matt Cooke|0.14|0.16|0.43|0.39|1.19|1.37|12.00%|11.94%
Jared Spurgeon|0.05|0.07|0.33|0.31|1.57|1.22|3.03%|6.09%
Jonas Brodin|0.17|0.04|0.33|0.24|0.67|1.13|25.00%|3.92%
Justin Fontaine|0.29|0.00|0.29|0.00|1.52|0.00|18.75%|0.00%
Kyle Brodziak|0.10|0.17|0.24|0.39|1.29|1.62|7.41%|10.71%
Charlie Coyle|0.22|0.22|0.56|0.38|1.89|1.35|11.76%|16.00%
Dany Heatley|0.10|0.46|0.19|0.97|1.71|3.11|5.56%|14.71%
Torrey Mitchell|0.05|0.10|0.19|0.25|1.05|1.30|4.55%|8.02%
Keith Ballard|0.00|0.07|0.44|0.30|0.67|1.12|0.00%|5.89%
Marco Scandella|0.00|0.04|0.22|0.17|1.06|1.09|0.00%|4.12%
Clayton Stoner|0.00|0.02|0.16|0.16|0.95|0.80|0.00%|2.27%
Matt Dumba|0.09|0.00|0.18|0.00|0.82|0.00|11.11%|0.00%
Nate Prosser|0.00|0.01|0.22|0.18|0.67|0.58|0.00%|2.38%
Zenon Konopka|0.05|0.04|0.05|0.09|0.24|0.62|20.00%|6.15%
Thought I'd break out some stats here.
SHOOTING PERCENTAGE:
Parise and Koivu are doing well so far, but their shooting percentage is actually down a bit from career numbers, so we should expect they could actually continue to score.
Pominville and Fontaine arguably have unsustainably high shooting percentage, so they should drop in terms of production.
Suter and Spurgeon should also have an uptick in scoring based off historical shooting percentage. I dunno why but they just haven't buried them on the PP like they should.
Granlund and Nino have oddly low shooting percentages for the year and for their young careers. I would expect Nino to end up closer to 10-11% and Granlund between 8-9% longer term, so they obviously have room to grow offensively.
SHOTS:
Parise is the only one who sticks out with really high shots per game compared to career numbers. But it's been like this the whole time with the Wild, so maybe he keeps it up.
On the flip side, Heatley and Ballard are the only ones getting very low shots compared to career numbers. Heatley is mostly because of ice time and his role, but diminished speed plays a part. Ballard, I dunno, maybe smaller sample size and maybe less PP time.
Otherwise, it looks pretty decent.
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