2012 Partial Redraft - Feedback

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Looking for major mistakes. (these more recent years are much more difficult)

Num.	Player	GP	G	A	Pts	Pts / GP
1	Matt Murray	111	0	3	3	0.027027027
2	Andrei Vasilevskiy	155	0	4	4	0.025806452
3	Filip Forsberg	331	117	138	255	0.770392749
4	Shayne Gostisbehere	220	37	113	150	0.681818182
5	Connor Hellebuyck	149	0	2	2	0.013422819
6	Hampus Lindholm	371	42	101	143	0.385444744
7	Jacob Trouba	326	34	95	129	0.395705521
8	Colton Parayko	242	19	84	103	0.425619835
9	Alex Galchenyuk	418	108	147	255	0.610047847
10	Morgan Rielly	388	31	140	171	0.440721649
11	Frederik Andersen	257	0	7	7	0.027237354
12	Mathew Dumba	310	44	84	128	0.412903226
13	Jaccob Slavin	227	15	69	84	0.370044053
14	Tomas Hertl	328	81	89	170	0.518292683
15	Teuvo Teravainen	278	55	95	150	0.539568345
16	Tanner Pearson	308	69	74	143	0.464285714
17	Alexander Kerfoot	79	19	24	43	0.544303797
18	Tom Wilson	391	35	69	104	0.265984655
19	Olli Maatta	302	24	69	93	0.30794702
20	Colin Miller	185	19	51	70	0.378378378
21	Brady Skjei	169	9	55	64	0.378698225
22	Andreas Athanasiou	172	43	33	76	0.441860465
23	Josh Anderson	159	37	27	64	0.402515723
24	Nail Yakupov	350	62	74	136	0.388571429
25	Vince Hinostroza	106	13	26	39	0.367924528
26	Cody Ceci	366	25	67	92	0.25136612
27	Chris Tierney	284	41	63	104	0.366197183
28	Damon Severson	279	18	75	93	0.333333333
29	Ryan Murray	264	12	60	72	0.272727273
30	Connor Brown	171	35	35	70	0.409356725
Num.	Player	GP	G	A	Pts
31	Mike Matheson	165	17	27	44	0.266666667
32	Jimmy Vesey	159	33	22	55	0.34591195
33	Charles Hudon	78	10	24	34	0.435897436
34	Joonas Korpisalo	63	0	0	0	0
35	Zemgus Girgensons	348	44	57	101	0.290229885
36	Ben Hutton	207	6	44	50	0.241545894
37	Jake McCabe	215	10	37	47	0.218604651
38	Radek Faksa	204	34	44	78	0.382352941
39	Mikhail Grigorenko	217	22	42	64	0.294930876
40	Cedric Paquette	236	27	23	50	0.211864407
41	Devin Shore	167	24	41	65	0.389221557
42	Esa Lindell	157	13	32	45	0.286624204
43	Jordan Martinook	247	26	39	65	0.263157895
44	Scott Laughton	190	19	28	47	0.247368421
45	Colton Sissons	190	22	25	47	0.247368421
46	Erik Gustafsson	76	5	25	30	0.394736842
47	Brock McGinn	158	26	24	50	0.316455696
48	Derrick Pouliot	138	5	31	36	0.260869565
49	Matt Benning	135	9	27	36	0.266666667
50	Adam Pelech	131	6	25	31	0.236641221
51	Mark Jankowski	73	17	8	25	0.342465753
52	Martin Frk	70	11	14	25	0.357142857
53	Jujhar Khaira	94	12	12	24	0.255319149
54	Jake Dotchin	83	3	19	22	0.265060241
55	Seth Griffith	79	8	11	19	0.240506329
56	Phil Di Giuseppe	126	13	24	37	0.293650794
57	Connor Carrick	167	9	21	30	0.179640719
58	Joseph Blandisi	71	8	18	26	0.366197183
59	Brendan Leipsic	64	6	19	25	0.390625
60	Pontus Aberg	68	5	13	18	0.264705882
61	Matt Grzelcyk	63	3	12	15	0.238095238
Num.	Player	GP	G	A	Pts	#VALUE!
62	Slater Koekkoek	76	4	9	13	0.171052632
63	Linus Ullmark	26	0	0	0	0
64	Malcolm Subban	24	0	0	0	0
65	Chandler Stephenson	80	6	12	18	0.225
66	Gemel Smith	63	9	8	17	0.26984127
67	Christian Djoos	63	3	11	14	0.222222222
68	Brendan Gaunce	114	5	7	12	0.105263158
69	Brett Kulak	101	2	9	11	0.108910891
70	Oskar Sundqvist	70	2	7	9	0.128571429
71	Stefan Matteau	64	3	4	7	0.109375
72	Joakim Ryan	62	3	9	12	0.193548387
73	Taylor Leier	55	2	5	7	0.127272727
74	Petteri Lindbohm	40	2	1	3	0.075
75	Griffin Reinhart	37	0	2	2	0.054054054
76	Dominic Toninato	37	0	2	2	0.054054054
77	Paul Ladue	34	3	9	12	0.352941176
78	Marek Mazanec	31	0	1	1	0.032258065
79	Cristoval "Boo" Nieves	29	1	8	9	0.310344828
80	Kevin Roy	25	6	1	7	0.28
81	Daniel O'Regan	24	1	4	5	0.208333333
82	Jordan Schmaltz	22	0	3	3	0.136363636

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[Apotheosis]

Rielly at 10 lol

 

[LeafsNation75]

Rielly should be at least a top 3 in a re-draft.

 

[Maplebeasts]

What the guys above me said. Also you tend to seriously over rate the goalies

 

[Lampedampe]

Good list, what's your reason for having Galchenyuk ahead of Slavin, Rielly and Dumba?

 

[BinCookin]

So you are saying losing Reilly would be a bigger factor than losing Andersen off the leafs?

 

[BinCookin]

Good list, what's your reason for having Galchenyuk ahead of Slavin, Rielly and Dumba?

As much as he is unpopular for not becoming a #1 C, he still scores alot 0.6 pts per game. But you could be right, maybe all those D are much better? I don't know.. i needed help, thats why i posted

 

[AcerComputer]

Nail Yakupov @ 24, this guy might not be in the league next year.

 

[LeafsNation75]

So you are saying losing Reilly would be a bigger factor than losing Andersen off the leafs?

I personally think you are severely underrating how good Rielly has been and he's becoming a #1 Defenseman. He was originally drafted 5th overall after playing 18 regular season games and 5 playoff games in the WHL during his draft year, so he did something to warrant being a top 5 pick. You don't think a team like the Islanders regrets selecting Griffin Reinhart at 4th overall considering that Rielly was on the board and available.

 

[BinCookin]

Nail Yakupov @ 24, this guy might not be in the league next year.

trying to take into account career production so far. As well as future promise. Clearly his future promise looks to be a 3rd liner. But not sure if he is out of the nhl just yet.

 

[BinCookin]

I personally think you are severely underrating how good Rielly has been and he's becoming a #1 Defenseman. He was originally drafted 5th overall after playing 18 regular season games and 5 playoff games in the WHL during his draft year, so he did something to warrant being a top 5 pick. You don't think a team like the Islanders regrets selecting Griffin Reinhart at 4th overall considering that Rielly was on the board and available.

Are you even looking at my list? Griff Rein is not in top 30. Question is who is he better than on the list i provided?

 

[Lampedampe]

As much as he is unpopular for not becoming a #1 C, he still scores alot 0.6 pts per game. But you could be right, maybe all those D are much better? I don't know.. i needed help, thats why i posted

True, it really comes down to how highly you value forwards vs defensemen. Straight up trade value i would guess that Slavin/Rielly/Dumba would have a higher trade value, but i mean these lists are impossible to get a 100% correct, some people will like it and some wont.

 

[Advanced stats]

Excluding goalies:

Forsberg
Lindholm
Rielly
Parakyo
Trouba
Slavin
Ghostisbehere
Galchenyuk

Drop off

Everyone else.

 

[BinCookin]

True, it really comes down to how highly you value forwards vs defensemen. Straight up trade value i would guess that Slavin/Rielly/Dumba would have a higher trade value, but i mean these lists are impossible to get a 100% correct, some people will like it and some wont.

that is a good point, ill move Galch Down.

 

[Breakers]

Reilly is too low

Andersson is way too high.

 

[KingTux]

I like your stuff man

Keep em coming

 

[Lampedampe]

From looking at this list i just realized how bad this draft was for Forwards.

Really good for defensemen though.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Taking the uncertainty related to drafting goalies out of the equation, how valuable would they be in a re-draft?

Perhaps I shouldn't given the struggles of numerous organizations to find stability in net, but I'd still wince at passing up on Forsberg or many of those defensemen listed after Murray and Vasilevskiy (Lindholm, Slavin, Parayko, Trouba, Gostisbehere, Rielly, maybe Dumba.) for a goalie.

 

[Critical13]

My top 10 would be a little different, OP. Something like this:

1. Filip Forsberg
2. Shayne Gostisbehere
3. Morgan Rielly
3. Hampus Lindholm
4. Jacob Trouba
5. Colton Parayko
6. Jacob Slavin
7. Matt Muray
8. Andrei Vasilevsky
9. Teuvo Teravainen
10. Brady Skjei

With Galchenyuk, Helle, Dumba and Metheson right on the edge.

 

[Ainec]

Dumba plays 25 minutes a game as Wild's #1 D

In those games he has average 0.8 ppg

Dumba not being in any top 10 re-draft list is criminal. This used to be Parayko and Slavin

 

[BinCookin]

An Update considering comments

I have adjusted goalies lower, and moved up some D. Matheson i had way too low. Any other major mistakes later in the draft?

Num.	Player	GP	G	A	Pts	Pts / GP
1	Filip Forsberg	331	117	138	255	0.770392749	1
2	Shayne Gostisbehere	220	37	113	150	0.681818182	2
3	Hampus Lindholm	371	42	101	143	0.385444744	3
4	Jacob Trouba	326	34	95	129	0.395705521	4
5	Morgan Rielly	388	31	140	171	0.440721649	5
6	Colton Parayko	242	19	84	103	0.425619835	6
7	Mathew Dumba	310	44	84	128	0.412903226	7
8	Jaccob Slavin	227	15	69	84	0.370044053	8
9	Matt Murray	111	0	3	3	0.027027027	9
10	Andrei Vasilevskiy	155	0	4	4	0.025806452	10
11	Connor Hellebuyck	149	0	2	2	0.013422819	11
12	Alex Galchenyuk	418	108	147	255	0.610047847	12
13	Tomas Hertl	328	81	89	170	0.518292683	13
14	Teuvo Teravainen	278	55	95	150	0.539568345	14
15	Frederik Andersen	257	0	7	7	0.027237354	15
16	Tanner Pearson	308	69	74	143	0.464285714	16
17	Alexander Kerfoot	79	19	24	43	0.544303797	17
18	Tom Wilson	391	35	69	104	0.265984655	18
19	Olli Maatta	302	24	69	93	0.30794702	19
20	Colin Miller	185	19	51	70	0.378378378	20
21	Brady Skjei	169	9	55	64	0.378698225	21
22	Mike Matheson	165	17	27	44	0.266666667	22
23	Andreas Athanasiou	172	43	33	76	0.441860465	23
24	Josh Anderson	159	37	27	64	0.402515723	24
25	Nail Yakupov	350	62	74	136	0.388571429	25
26	Vince Hinostroza	106	13	26	39	0.367924528	26
27	Cody Ceci	366	25	67	92	0.25136612	27
28	Chris Tierney	284	41	63	104	0.366197183	28
29	Damon Severson	279	18	75	93	0.333333333	29
30	Ryan Murray	264	12	60	72	0.272727273	30
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Num.	Player	GP	G	A	Pts		Num.
31	Connor Brown	171	35	35	70	0.409356725	31
32	Jimmy Vesey	159	33	22	55	0.34591195	32
33	Charles Hudon	78	10	24	34	0.435897436	33
34	Joonas Korpisalo	63	0	0	0	0	34
35	Zemgus Girgensons	348	44	57	101	0.290229885	35
36	Ben Hutton	207	6	44	50	0.241545894	36
37	Jake McCabe	215	10	37	47	0.218604651	37
38	Radek Faksa	204	34	44	78	0.382352941	38
39	Mikhail Grigorenko	217	22	42	64	0.294930876	39

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[BinCookin]

Dumba plays 25 minutes a game as Wild's #1 D

In those games he has average 0.8 ppg

Dumba not being in any top 10 re-draft list is criminal. This used to be Parayko and Slavin

just moved him, and I agree, Dumba is good

 

[Ainec]

Faksa 38 > Hinostroza Wilson and Yakupov

 

[BinCookin]

I like your stuff man

Keep em coming

Lets say I am working on a bigger project than redrafts, but i need the redrafts to run my numbers.

 

[BinCookin]

I was thinking i might have had Faksa too low, i haven't watched him much.