2008 HFNHL Free Agency Announced

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The 2008 HFNHL Free Agency Season Begins:

The following are the rules and players eligible for free agency this off-season. Be sure to review all of the items below, as some rules have changed this year. Please read these rules very carefully. Once again, we will not listen to any complaints from General Managers who fail to follow these simple, but fundamental rules, and keep in mind that submitting in the wrong format will result in your offer being ignored without exception. It’s a lot of work to go through these offers and following the requested format reduces the workload considerably.

This list of free agents can ultimately be found on the message board, the home page and the yahoo group folders. For the most recent updates to this notice, please refer to the message board.

The Rules:

I. Submission: All offers must be sent to [email protected] - all e-mails get received and I’m in the process of trying to get rid of the notice about the mailbox being full, which is incorrect – that said, I’ll confirm receipt of offers as they arrive. The subject of the e-mail should be "HFNHL Contract Offers: Team Name". If you send an email with a different subject it will not be sorted properly and may be lost.

Ideally, your offers should be sent via excel or as a table within the e-mail, as noted in the format below.

II. Format: All offers should be in the following prioritized bid format:

Rank Player Name Prev Team: Base Salary x No. Years

For Example:
Priority Player Name Team Salary ($) Term (yrs)
1 Wayne Gretzky EDM $7,500,000 4

1 Gordie Howe DET $7,000,000 4
2 Guy Lafleur MONT $6,000,000 4

1 Bobby Orr BOS $7,000,000 4
2 Denis Potvin NYI $5,000,000 4

1 Brian Trottier NYI $1,500,000 2
2 Bob Gainey MONT $1,250,000 4

In the above instance, you would sign Gretzky, Howe, Orr and Trottier if your bids were the best on all four. Lafleur would only be signed if you failed to land Gretzky or Howe, while Potvin would only be signed if you failed to land Orr and Gainey only if you failed to sign Ricci.

Basically, since all negotiation happens at once, this allows you to avoid getting stuck with more players than you wanted. You can have as many groupings as you want, and list further choices as well (3rd, 4th etc.). But keep in mind in the above scenario with four ‘#1’ priority offers, these bids could result in the team landing all four players.

There may be instances where your second choice is ready to sign with you right away, but you are still in another round of bidding for your higher selection. For instance, Gainey may be willing to sign that deal, but you are still in the final bidding for Trottier. In this case, the General Manager would be contacted and given the option to pull the trigger on Gainey right away, and/or remain in the bidding for Trottier (which would result in re-opening the bidding for Gainey if the General Manager held off signing the deal with Gainey immediately).

Keep in mind, the longer a priority list, the less likely a player low down on the list will consider the offer if several of your team is still in the hunt for higher priority players on the same list (basically, the agent gets a feel for whether the offer will ever become firm or not).

Once again, the maximum salary in the HFNHL remains $8 million per year.

And finally, there are no signing bonuses and no performance bonuses.

III. Restricted Free Agents :

OFFER -- COMPENSATION
• Up to $660,000 - No compensation
• $660,000 to $1 million - One 3rd round draft pick
• $1 to $2 million - One second round pick
• $2 to $3 million - One 1st and one 3rd round pick
• $3 to $4 million - One 1st, one 2nd and one 3rd round pick
• $4 to $5 million - Two 1sts, one 2nd and one 3rd round pick
• Over $5 million - Four 1st round picks

Compensation must be paid in consecutive years beginning with the 2009 draft. DO NOT BID ON AN RFA IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION. If you do, you risk being fined as one team was last year (a minimum penalty of $500,000 will apply). Also, you can only bid on as many RFAs as you have compensation to pay. You cannot bid on 5 players, and then decide which ones you want to keep later, although you can prioritize offer sheets as per the description above.

IV. Bidding Deadline:
Bids are due by Midnight EST on the 12th of July and are to be sent no earlier than Midnight on the 6th of July (to ensure all those involved in free agency have submitted their offers already). Bids should be sent to [email protected].

V. Evaluation of Bids:
Bids will be reviewed based on total salary (base * years), ice time, line-mates, contender status, player loyalty, etc. However, annual compensation will be the main factor, followed by player loyalty. When necessary, several Admin team members will be used to evaluate close bidding. A few other notes:
- If one bid is clearly superior (rating at least 20% higher than the next highest bid), the player will sign immediately with that team**
- If one bid is received, the player will sign with that team**
- If three or more bids are received and none sign the player in the first round, there will be a second round (and ONLY one more round) of bidding, with the top three bidding teams participating, and going through the same review process. The top bid submitted thus far will also be revealed. At the end of this second round, the top bid will sign the player**

**IMPORTANT NOTE - if the best offers received for a player are obviously well below legitimate market value (for example, signing Martin Broduer to a $2 million contract), the league office retains the right to have the player hold out and wait to receive a better offer at another point in the season. This holds true for RFAs as well - a team presenting an offer sheet to another team's RFA does not automatically sign the player in question - they have to feel the offer is a good one first, then the team holding the rights has the choice to match or not. So please keep in mind the qualifying offer a player must have already turned down when considering making an offer (i.e. it should be significantly better than a 10% raise).

Teams with Restricted Free Agents: those teams whose players sign offer sheets will have the option to match the offer in question or receive compensation (either negotiated or draft picks as per above). Regardless, any player signing an offer sheet will automatically have a no-trade clause for the next year.

VI. All offers are final.
SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW BEFORE YOU MAKE AN OFFER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

VII. Eligibility:
Teams can bid on any of the players listed, plus eligible players not represented in the HFNHL.

A. North American Free Agency Eligibility
(i) The players birth year is 1988 or earlier (20+ years of age)
(ii) Player is not playing in the NCAA (graduated or left early to sign a pro contract - link required)

B. European Free Agency Eligibility (New Rule)
(i) The players birth year is 1986 or earlier (the player must be a minimum 22 years of age at signing)
(ii) The player is currently in a North American league or has signed a contract to return to the NHL for the 2008/09 season (GM must provide a link supporting the latter)

Note: this rule has changed, in that a player does not have to have played a game in the NHL or AHL before being eligible to be signed, but rather has just signed an agreement to play in the NHL this coming season. However, even if they have signed, they are still subject to rule (VIII) Free Agent Playing in Europe, in the event they return overseas.

Post-Free Agency rules: Any Europeans who has not signed to play in the NHL, but subsequently signs an NHL deal after July 12th, will be eligible for free agent offers from any HFNHL team with the top offers evaluated a minimum of 48 hours past the date of the official signing, similar to past protocol.

European born players fall under North American rules if they meet one of the following conditions:
(i) NHL drafted players - They played in a North American league in the season prior to being drafted into the NHL. Having played in NA after being drafted is irrelevant.
(ii) NHL un-drafted players - They played in a North American league in the year just prior to them turning 20. In all other cases the European FA rules apply.

Keep in mind the number of contract years for younger player is set in stone. For prospects and rookies under 25 years old - who are also subject to the updated rookie salary cap of $875,000 –they are limited to following contract lengths:
• 3 years if they are between the ages of 18-21
• 2 years if they sign at age 22 or 23,
• 1 year if they their first contract at age 24

Failure to adhere to the proper term for these rookies will result in the offer not being considered.

VIII. Signed Player Playing in Europe
If a free agent is signed this off-season that ultimately commits to playing in Europe before November 15th, 2008, the player will be removed from your roster and placed on your prospect list at a price of $50,000 year. Players who have already committed to playing in Europe next season are not eligible for free agency, with fines applied to those offers where the player in not eligible (do your research!).

IX. Salary Cap
Keep in mind the salary cap for 2008-2009 is $50.3 million and the salary cap for 2009-2010 will likely be $56.7 million. Plan your offers accordingly. As a reminder, the salary cap will calculated as follows:
1. There will be three check points, start of season, game 30-35, and the trade deadline but there are no penalties attached to any single checkpoint.
2. Team payroll will be recorded at each check point on a spreadsheet and weighted average of the three will be used to determine any potential excess of the hard cap (plus applicable penalties) at season end.
3. To avoid timing issues related to injuries impacting pro payroll and to avoid teams hiding over-priced players on their farm team, we will calculate payroll at each checkpoint as follows – The Top 21 OV players at 100% of salary (excluding 'dummy' types) regardless of whether they are on the farm or pro team. If there is a tie of multiple players with an equal OV for the 21st position the highest salary player will be used.

X. Roster Limit
Keep in mind the roster limit for the upcoming season is a total of 80 players between your pro roster and prospect list. Many teams are near or at the maximum already, so be sure to take this into consideration before submitting offers. Player buyouts and prospect releases have already taken place, so there remains no other way to get rid of a player on your roster until next offseason other than trading. Draft pick and financial penalties may be levied against any team above the 80 player limit at the start of the regular season.

Reggie Swingstein
HFNHL Player Agent

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT LIST
The following players contracts expired and are Unrestricted free agents
Player Name Team Age Position
Dan Turple Anaheim 22 G
Jocelyn Thibault Atlanta 32 G
Mike Morrison Atlanta 28 G
Brian Boucher Buffalo 30 G
Marc Denis Carolina 30 G
Jeff Harvey Columbus 23 G
Jose Theodore Dallas 31 G
Steve Shields Los Angeles 35 G
Dan Cloutier Montreal 31 G
Dominic Hasek New Jersey 42 G
Kelly Guard New Jersey 25 G
Johan Hedberg New York Islanders 34 G
Olaf Kolzig New York Rangers 37 G
Yutaka Fukufuji New York Rangers 25 G
David Aebischer Ottawa 29 G
Dan Cloutier Philadelphia 31 G
Brent Johnson Philadelphia 30 G
Curtis Joseph Phoenix 40 G
Yannick Lehoux Phoenix 25 G
Robert Esche San Jose 29 G
Dwayne Roloson Toronto 37 G
Maxime Ouellet Vancouver 26 G
David McKee Vancouver 23 G
Jon Klemm Anaheim 37 D
Richard Matvichuk Anaheim 34 D
Richard Petiot Anaheim 26 D
Reid Cashman Anaheim 24 D
Luke Richardson Atlanta 38 D
Maxim Kondratiev Atlanta 24 D
Bobby Allen Boston 28 D
Dick Tarnstrom Buffalo 32 D
Alexei Zhitnik Carolina 34 D
Dale Purinton Carolina 29 D
Brian Sipotz Chicago 26 D
Brandon Rogers Chicago 25 D
Olli Malvimvaara Colorado 25 D
Ryan Stokes Colorado 25 D
Joel Bouchard Columbus 33 D
Tom Poti Columbus 30 D
Steven Later Columbus 23 D
Darius Kasparaitis Dallas 34 D
Sean Hill Detroit 37 D
Rhett Warrener Detroit 31 D
Nate Guenin Detroit 24 D
Alain Nasreddine Edmonton 31 D
James Sanford Los Angeles 23 D
Bret Hedican Minnesota 37 D
Brian Pothier Minnesota 30 D
Brad Ference Minnesota 28 D
Brad Norton Montreal 30 D
Jim Fahey Montreal 28 D
Karlis Skrastins Nashville 33 D
Shaun Heshka Nashville 22 D
Bruno St-Jacques New Jersey 26 D
Charlie Cook New Jersey 25 D
Andrei Zyuzin New York Islanders 29 D
Glen Wesley New York Rangers 38 D
Roman Hamrlik New York Rangers 33 D
Paul Albers Ottawa 21 D
Jesse Boulerice Phoenix 28 D
Sandis Ozolinsh Pittsburg 35 D
Petteri Nummelin Pittsburg 34 D
Bryce Lampman San Jose 25 D
Jamie Rivers Tampa 30 D
Anders Eriksson Washington 32 D
Jason Allison Atlanta 32 C
David Vyborny Buffalo 32 C
Robert Lang Carolina 36 C
Sergei Brylin Carolina 33 C
Michal Handzus Carolina 30 C
Martin Guerin Colorado 25 C
Dustin Johner Colorado 24 C
Grant Potulny Columbus 28 C
Marty Sertich Columbus 24 C
Justin Donati Detroit 26 C
Scott Barney Florida 28 C
Michael Zigomanis Florida 26 C
Wes Walz Los Angeles 37 C
Glen Metropolit Los Angeles 33 C
Johnny Pohl Los Angeles 28 C
Justin Mapleloft New Jersey 24 C
Mathieu Biron Phoenix 27 C
Chris Gratton St Louis 32 C
Kip Miller Tampa 37 C
Karel Pilar Toronto 30 C
Mark Rycroft Anaheim 29 LW
Mark Hartigan Atlanta 29 LW
David Koci Atlanta 26 LW
Sean Collins Chicago 24 LW
Martin Gelinas Colorado 37 LW
Mark Rooneem Colorado 24 LW
Tyson Nash Detroit 32 LW
Wayne Primeau Detroit 31 LW
Jeff Cowan Florida 31 LW
Andre Roy Los Angeles 32 LW
Bates Battaglia Minnesota 31 LW
Bill Thomas Minnesota 24 LW
Scott Thornton Montreal 36 LW
Martin Kariya Nashville 26 LW
Trent Whitefield Phoenix 28 LW
Todd Bertuzzi Pittsburg 32 LW
Chris Dingman Pittsburg 30 LW
Gary Roberts St Louis 41 LW
Chris Collins Vancouver 23 LW
Peter Sejna Washington 27 LW
Nicholas Dimitrakos Atlanta 28 RW
Tomi Maki Atlanta 24 RW
Jeff O'Neil Boston 31 RW
Martin Lapointe Calgary 34 RW
Mike Glumac Calgary 27 RW
Mark Recchi Carolina 39 RW
Fernando Pisani Carolina 30 RW
Denis Hamel Chicago 30 RW
Chris Dyment Chicago 27 RW
Petr Kanko Chicago 23 RW
Tyler Dyck Columbus 24 RW
Darren Reid Columbus 24 RW
Scott Sheppard Columbus 24 RW
Tim Konsorada Columbus 23 RW
Brendan Shanahan Detroit 38 RW
Mathias Tjarnqvist Detroit 28 RW
Luch Aquino Detroit 22 RW
Stephane Goulet Detroit 21 RW
Tyler Donati Detroit 20 RW
Vladimir Orszagh Edmonton 30 RW
Craig Adams Los Angeles 30 RW
Erik Rasmussen Los Angeles 30 RW
David Vandergulik Los Angeles 24 RW
Richard Zednik Minnesota 31 RW
Steven Goertzen Nashville 23 RW
Peter Bondra New Jersey 39 RW
Mike Grier New Jersey 32 RW
Dan Hinote Pittsburg 30 RW
Josh Langfeld Vancouver 30 RW
Anson Carter Washington 33 RW



RESTRICTED FREE AGENTSThe following restricted free agents players have been qualified by their respective teams, but are open to signing offer sheets. Compensation for RFA’s is as follows:
• Up to $660,000 - No compensation
• $660,000 to $1,000,000 - One 3rd round draft pick
• $1,000,001 to $2,000,000 million - One second round pick
• $2,000,001 to $3,000,000 million - One 1st and one 3rd round pick
• $3,000,001 to $4,000,000 million - One 1st, one 2nd and one 3rd round pick
• $4,000,001 to $5,000,000 million - Two 1sts, one 2nd and one 3rd round pick
• Over $5 million - Four 1st round picks

Player Name Team Age Position
Hannu Toivinen Edmonton 23 G RFA
Cam Ward Los Angeles 23 G RFA
Jordan Sigalet Montreal 26 G RFA
Josh Gorges Boston 24 D RFA
David Hale Calgary 26 D RFA
Aaron Johnson Calgary 24 D RFA
Milan Jurcina Carolina 25 D RFA
Dennis Wideman Los Angeles 25 D RFA
Mathieu Roy New Jersey 25 D RFA
Trevor Daley Washington 23 D RFA
Matt Jones Atlanta 24 C RFA
Stephen Weiss Carolina 24 C RFA
Mark Bell Columbus 27 C RFA
Jay McClement Detroit 24 C RFA
Sean Avery Nashville 27 C RFA
Tim Connolly Philadelphia 26 C RFA
Alex Tanguay Chicago 27 LW RFA
Travis Moen Edmonton 25 LW RFA
Martin Havlet Edmonton 26 LW RFA
Jussi Jokinen Los Angeles 24 LW RFA
Jannick Hansen Pittsburg 21 LW RFA
Tim Jackman Atlanta 25 RW RFA
Joffrey Lupul Carolina 24 RW RFA
T.J. Trevelyan New York Rangers 23 RW RFA


RELEASED PROSPECTS The following released prospects are eligible are now unrestricted free agents, although the same rules apply to these players (i.e. players in Europe are non eligible).

Team Player Name Age
Anaheim Tuomas Pihlman Prospect
Anaheim Kyle Radke Prospect
Anaheim Roman Malek Prospect
Anaheim Evgeny Gladskikh Prospect
Anaheim Jonathan Carrier Prospect
Anaheim David Lidstrom Prospect
Atlanta Chad Morin Prospect
Atlanta Boris Mironov Prospect
Atlanta Jamie Storr Prospect
Atlanta Martin Prusek Prospect
Atlanta Jaroslav Balastik Prospect
Atlanta Brandon Reid Prospect
Boston Brett Cloutier Prospect
Boston Craig Olynick Prospect
Calgary Kriss Hogg Prospect
Calgary Ryan Garlock Prospect
Calgary Lennart Pettrell Prospect
Calgary Alexander Naurov Prospect
Calgary Jonathan Ferland Prospect
Calgary Timo Helbling Prospect
Calgary Konstantin Glazachev Prospect
Calgary Vadim Khomitski Euro
Chicago Ben Simon Prospect
Chicago Brian Ihnacak Prospect
Chicago Nick Kuiper Prospect
Chicago Bret Nasby Prospect
Chicago Evan Schafer Prospect
Chicago Chris Hulit Prospect
Chicago Danny Stewart Prospect
Chicago Vladimir Karpov Prospect
Chicago John Grahame Euro
Colorado Jean-Pierre Vigier Prospect
Colorado James Sharrow Prospect
Colorado Mikko Kalteva Prospect
Colorado Brandon Cullen Prospect
Colorado Anton Hedman Prospect
Colorado Masi Marjamäki Prospect
Colorado Christopher Heino-Lindberg Prospect
Columbus Rem Murray Prospect
Columbus Filip Novak Prospect
Columbus Alexander Drozdetsky Prospect
Columbus Bjorn Melin Prospect
Columbus Teemu Nurmi Prospect
Columbus Darren Haydar Prospect
Columbus Tomas Malec Prospect
Dallas Ryan Steeves Prospect
Dallas Jake Taylor Prospect
Dallas Justin Vienneau Prospect
Dallas Thomas Morrow Prospect
Dallas Alexander Mikhailish Prospect
Florida Matt Kassian Prospect
Florida Anton But Prospect
Florida Vic Oreskovich Prospect
Florida Kevin Schaeffer Prospect
Florida Oliver Setzinger Prospect
Florida Petr Tenkrat Prospect
Florida Alex Vasiliev Prospect
Florida Fredric Cassivi (Euro) Prospect
LA Drew Fisher Prospect
LA Rastislav Konecny Prospect
LA Michal Mikeska Prospect
LA Dev Heshmatpour Prospect
Montreal Jonas Nordquist Prospect
Montreal Mattias Karlsson Prospect
Montreal Bobby Bolt Prospect
Montreal Mathieu Melanson Prospect
Montreal Sergei Anshakov Prospect
Montreal Ken Roche Prospect
Montreal Kyle Bailey Prospect
Montreal Lee Falardeau Prospect
Montreal Craig Voakes Prospect
Montreal Mattias Hellstrom Prospect
Montreal Jeremy Duchense Prospect
Montreal Mike Brown Prospect
Montreal Marek Troncinsky Prospect
Montreal Igor Musatov Prospect
Montreal Stefan Liv Prospect
Montreal Arron Alphonso Prospect
Montreal Darin Olver Prospect
Nashville Oleg Kvasha Prospect
Nashville Parker VanBuskirk Prospect
Nashville Tyler Swystun Prospect
New Jersey Jeremy Swanson Prospect
New Jersey Martin Tuma Prospect
New Jersey Kyle Medvec Prospect
New Jersey Tim Cook Prospect
New Jersey Nick Tuzzolino Prospect
New Jersey Jaroslav Markovic Prospect
New Jersey Maxime Daigneault Prospect
New Jersey Guillaume Desbiens Prospect
NYI Ville Nieminen Prospect
NYI Nikita Alexeev Prospect
NYI Mikko Luoma Prospect
NYI Lukas Mensator Prospect
NYI Dan Travis Prospect
NYI Kevin Armstrong Prospect
NYR Patrick Ehelechner Prospect
NYR Janne Kolehmainen Prospect
NYR Sergei Ogorodnikov Prospect
NYR Rob Page Prospect
NYR Valterri Tenkanen Prospect
Philadelphia Jonas Johansson Prospect
Philadelphia Nikita Korovkin Prospect
Philadelphia Victor Uchevatov Prospect
Philadelphia Justin Maiser Prospect
Philadelphia Scott Seney Prospect
Phoenix Chris Simon (euro) Prospect
Phoenix Yannick Lehoux (euro) Prospect
Phoenix Aki Seitsonen Prospect
Phoenix Jared Gomes Prospect
Phoenix Robby Dee Prospect
Phoenix Rickard Wallin Prospect
Phoenix Jakub Koreis Prospect
Phoenix Greg Jacina (euro) Prospect
Phoenix Juraj Gracik Prospect
Phoenix Patrick Wellar Prospect
Phoenix Scott Lehman Prospect
Phoenix Clayton Barthel Prospect
Phoenix Matt Nickerson Prospect
Phoenix Tomas Mojzis Prospect
San Jose Howie Martin Prospect
San Jose Yuri Trubachev Prospect
San Jose Roman Psurny Prospect
San Jose Stanislav Balan Prospect
San Jose Jeff Likens Prospect
San Jose Dmitri Utkin Prospect
San Jose Roman Tesliuk Prospect
San Jose Olivier Latendresse Prospect
San Jose Ruslan Zainullen Prospect
San Jose John Hecimovic Prospect
San Jose Sergei Zinovjev Prospect
San Jose Evgeny Tunik Prospect
St. Louis Scott Kelman Prospect
St. Louis Joni Lappalainen Prospect
St. Louis Mikko Kankaanpera Prospect
Tampa Bay Ivan Majesky Prospect
Tampa Bay Mikael Holmqvist Prospect
Tampa Bay Patrik Stefan Prospect
Tampa Bay Lars Jonsson Prospect
Tampa Bay Sebastian Caron Prospect
Tampa Bay Eric Boguniecki Prospect
Tampa Bay Karol Krizan Prospect
Vancouver Martin Sagat Prospect
Vancouver Konstantin Rudenko Prospect
Vancouver Marc Chouinard (Euro) Prospect
Vancouver Alexander Korolyuk (Euro) Prospect
Vancouver Jon DiSalvatore Prospect
Vancouver Kevin Romy Prospect
Vancouver Peter Guggisberg Prospect
Washington Dmitry Afanasenkov Prospect
Washington Vladimir Kubus Prospect
Washington Nils Ekman Prospect
Washington Oleg Tverdovsky Prospect
Washington Peter Tsimikalis Prospect
Washington Todd Ford Prospect
Washington Shawn Collymore Prospect
Washington Brad Schell Prospect
Washington Tobias Whelan Prospect
Washington Luke Fritshaw Prospect
 
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VII. Eligibility:
Teams can bid on any of the players listed, plus eligible players not represented in the HFNHL.

A. North American Free Agency Eligibility
(i) The players birth year is 1987 or earlier (20+ years of age)
(ii) Player is not playing in the NCAA (graduated or left early to sign a pro contract - link required)

Is it 20 years old or is it 1987? ie, what about Jan-Jun 2008s?
 

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One question about european free agents

Player X who is currently 23 years can max sign a 2 year deal for 875.000$

Player Y who is over 24, like 26 can sign a four yearl for 8.0M$? Have I understood it correctly if the max salary 875.000 and max 3 year doesnt apply to european free agents over the age of 24?
 

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Not a big deal, but I somehow missed that Martin Kariya is listed as RFA what is wrong. I never qualified him.
 

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VIII. Signed Player Playing in Europe
If a free agent is signed this off-season that ultimately commits to playing in Europe before November 15th, 2007, the player will be removed from your roster and placed on your prospect list at a price of $50,000 year. Players who have already committed to playing in Europe next season are not eligible for free agency, with fines applied to those offers where the player in not eligible (do your research!).

I think you meant nov 15th 2008?
 

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Thanks for that, Nick - more than a little work, to be sure!

Minor notes:

- Hasek has retired, so should be off that list (unless, I suppose, people are betting that he "unretires" before October 1st?). Same with Glen Wesley. There may be a couple more.

- Please add RFA L/RW Chris Conner (24). Columbus qualified him, but he has not yet agreed.
 

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One other thing - in the NHL, it's become clear that RFA compensation must be a team's on picks. Does that apply to the HFNHL as well? If not, how is priority determined for which pick it is?
 

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One other thing - in the NHL, it's become clear that RFA compensation must be a team's on picks. Does that apply to the HFNHL as well? If not, how is priority determined for which pick it is?


I am assuming receiving team will have an option to pick based on their preference.
 

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One question about european free agents

Player X who is currently 23 years can max sign a 2 year deal for 875.000$

Player Y who is over 24, like 26 can sign a four yearl for 8.0M$? Have I understood it correctly if the max salary 875.000 and max 3 year doesnt apply to european free agents over the age of 24?

Can someone please confirm this rule?
 

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One question about european free agents

Player X who is currently 23 years can max sign a 2 year deal for 875.000$

Player Y who is over 24, like 26 can sign a four yearl for 8.0M$? Have I understood it correctly if the max salary 875.000 and max 3 year doesnt apply to european free agents over the age of 24?

If the player is 26 or older, they are indeed open to any term up to 4 years and any salary subject to league minimums and maximums (so up to $8 million).
 

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If the player is 26 or older, they are indeed open to any term up to 4 years and any salary subject to league minimums and maximums (so up to $8 million).

I have a feeling there will be few large offers coming in from Tampa. Sorry Dion:cry:
 

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Two questions and one comment:

Question 1:
What will be the process this year for determining which team will get a player if multiple teams offer the maximimum for a entry level player? Also if a team wins a lottery are they still eligible for other lottery players or will a team be precluded if they already got a lottery player?
The only reason I ask is that the approach has sort of 'evolved' over the years and I'm not sure if there are any further changes this year.

Question 2:
Are any intangibles being included in the offer evaluation (i.e are we still using the old Excel evaluation toolthat is not 100% based on $$$) or will it be determined solely on offer value.

Comment:
I'll be interested to see what happens with the Leafs (NHL) Frogren signing. All I've heard is that despite the fact he is 28yo the NHL rejected a standard contract and said he has to sign an entry level contract. I'm just not sure if that means his first contract maximum value is capped or it was more related to other legal terms in the contract.
 

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Two questions and one comment:

Question 1:
What will be the process this year for determining which team will get a player if multiple teams offer the maximimum for a entry level player? Also if a team wins a lottery are they still eligible for other lottery players or will a team be precluded if they already got a lottery player?
The only reason I ask is that the approach has sort of 'evolved' over the years and I'm not sure if there are any further changes this year.

Question 2:
Are any intangibles being included in the offer evaluation (i.e are we still using the old Excel evaluation toolthat is not 100% based on $$$) or will it be determined solely on offer value.

Comment:
I'll be interested to see what happens with the Leafs (NHL) Frogren signing. All I've heard is that despite the fact he is 28yo the NHL rejected a standard contract and said he has to sign an entry level contract. I'm just not sure if that means his first contract maximum value is capped or it was more related to other legal terms in the contract.

Q1: We haven't changed it - any team can win for max level rookie FA deals, as it will be a lottery format. This is regardless of whether they won a lottery on another player or not (so yeah, it is possible one team could land several of the most coveted entry level free agents. The actual format involves three members of admin, where a list is shared between two agents, and the third is asked to pick a random number for each lottery player and sends it back to the other two.

Q2: The almighty dollar is the biggest determining factor, but not everything. Some subjective discretion is there to make a final decision, with team loyalty being the next biggest factor, followed by the opportunity presented (and articulated) by the club to the free agent. Length of the deal will most definitely come into play as well, depending on the player. But a lot of this really only comes to play in the 2nd round of bidding on making the final decision. The top three offers (or more if the 4th is very close to the third or of a higher priority than some of the higher offers) will be invited to the second round. In some cases, up to five teams could be invited, although this would be an exception.

One other related note added to the rules for those who missed it is that players who are low on a long priority list of signings will not give the bid as much credence if the team is still in the bidding for multiple players high on the list in the 2nd round. For example, if someone bids for Kolzig, but he is #6 on their priority list of bids, and the team is still in the bidding for three of the players higher on the priority list for the 2nd round of bidding, if the deal isn't the best of the bunch, Kolzig might not invite that team to bid a second time, even if their bid is close to the top three, as won't be seen as a bonafide offer. As such, teams who submit priority lists that are lengthy should recognize the risks of this for the lower priority player (of course, often this is still better than committing to signing multiple guys, so feel free to submit long lists as you see fit). At the same time, a team with the 4th best bid, but carrying a #1 priority, might be invited to bid in the second round just because only 1 of the top three teams had the player a #1 priority and they are still in the hunt for higher priority guys. Anyways, I think you get the drift, with the point being the priority ranking for a player most definitely carries weight, in that agents will now whether it is a firm or conditional offer and will make a decision relative to the number of firm or conditional offers the player gets. Say what you want in inviting a player to join your team and how much you want them, but your priority list sends a message in itself.
 

HFNHL Canadiens

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Keep in mind the number of contract years for younger player is set in stone. For prospects and rookies under 25 years old - who are also subject to the updated rookie salary cap of $875,000 –they are limited to following contract lengths:
• 3 years if they are between the ages of 18-21
• 2 years if they sign at age 22 or 23,
• 1 year if they their first contract at age 24

If the player turns 25 in August are they subject to the rookie cap?
 

The old geezer

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if they are born 1984 (24yrs old) then they are rookies and need 1 year contract .. doesnt matter when is their birthday???

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Unless something has changed age is based on what they would be as of September 15th 2008. Therefore if the player turns 25 in August they should be considered 25.
 

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