2006 Draft- WHo's up/Who's Down?

[sandbox]

I know there's been a few of these threads but not for a few months, and they have been locked.

If the draft were today...where would they go?

Here is the actual 2006 draft: (rounds 1-2) If theres any other notable ones in the later rounds point them out too.

1 St. Louis Erik Johnson D US National Under-18 Team
2 Pittsburgh Jordan Staal C Peterborough Petes (OHL)
3 Chicago Jonathan Toews C U. of North Dakota (NCAA)
4 Washington Nicklas Backstrom C Brynas IF Gavle (SEL)
5 Boston Phil Kessel C U. of Minnesota (NCAA)
6 Columbus Derick Brassard C Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL)
7 NY Islanders Kyle Okposo R Des-Moines Buccaneers (USHL)
8 Phoenix Peter Mueller C Everett Silvertips (WHL)
9 Minnesota James Sheppard C Cape-Breton Screaming Eagles (QMJHL)
10 Florida Michael Frolik C Kladno (Czech)
11 Los Angeles Jonathan Bernier G Lewiston MAINEiacs (QMJHL)
12 Atlanta Bryan Little C Barrie Colts (OHL)
13 Toronto Jiri Tlusty C Kladno (Czech)
14 Vancouver Michael Grabner R Spokane Chiefs (WHL)
15 Tampa Bay Riku Helenius G Ilves Tampere (FNL)
16 San Jose Ty Wishart D Prince George Cougars (WHL)
17 Los Angeles Trevor Lewis C Des-Moines Buccaneers (USHL)
18 Colorado Chris Stewart R Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)
19 Anaheim Mark Mitera D U. of Michigan (NCAA)
20 Mtl. Canadiens David Fischer D Apple Valley [MN H.S.]
21 NY Rangers Bob Sanguinetti D Owen Sound Attack (OHL)
22 Philadelphia Claude Giroux R Gatineau Olympiques (QMJHL)
23 Washington Semen Varlamov G Yaroslavl-2 [Russia]
24 Buffalo Dennis Persson D Vasteras [Sweden]
25 St. Louis Patrik Berglund C Vasteras [Sweden]
26 Calgary Leland Irving G Everett Silvertips (WHL)
27 Dallas Ivan Vishnevskiy D Rouyn-Noranda Huskies (QMJHL)
28 Ottawa Nick Foligno L Sudbury Wolves (OHL)
29 Phoenix Chris Summers D US National Under-18 Team
30 New Jersey Matt Corrente D Saginaw Spirit (OHL)

31 St. Louis Tomas Kana C Vitkovice HC (Czech)
32 Pittsburgh Carl Sneep D Brainerd [MN H.S.]
33 Chicago Igor Makarov R Krylja-2 [Russia]
34 Washington Michal Neuvirth G Sparta Jr. [Czech Rep.]
35 Washington Francois Bouchard R Baie-Comeau Drakkar (QMJHL)
36 San Jose Jamie McGinn L Ottawa 67's (OHL)
37 Boston Yuri Alexandrov D Cherepovets Severstal (Russia)
38 Anaheim Bryce Swan R Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL)
39 Philadelphia Andreas Nodl R Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)
40 Minnesota Ondrej Fiala C Everett Silvertips (WHL)
41 Detroit Cory Emmerton C Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)
42 Philadelphia Michael Ratchuk D US National Under-18 Team
43 Atlanta Riley Holzapfel C Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
44 Toronto Nikolai Kulemin W Magnitogorsk [RUS]
45 Edmonton Jeff Petry D Des-Moines Buccaneers (USHL)
46 Buffalo Jhonas Enroth G Sodertalje SK (SEL)
47 Detroit Shawn Matthias C Belleville Bulls (OHL)
48 Los Angeles Joey Ryan D Quebec Remparts (QMJHL)
49 Mtl. Canadiens Ben Maxwell C Kootenay Ice (WHL)
50 Boston Milan Lucic L Vancouver Giants (WHL)
51 Colorado Nigel Williams D US National Under-18 Team
52 Washington Keith Seabrook D Burnaby Express (BCHL)
53 Mtl. Canadiens Mathieu Carle D Acadie-Bathurst Titan (QMJHL)
54 NY Rangers Artem Anisimov C Yaroslavl Lokomotiv (Russia)
55 Philadelphia Denis Bodrov D Tolyatti Lada (Russia)
56 Nashville Blake Geoffrion L US National Under-18 Team
57 Buffalo Mike Weber D Windsor Spitfires (OHL)
58 New Jersey Alexander Vasyunov L Yaroslavl 2 [RPL]
59 Colorado Codey Burki C Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)
60 NY Islanders Jesse Joensuu W Assat Pori (FNL)
61 Chicago Simon Danis-Pepin D U. of Maine (NCAA)
62 Detroit Dick Axelsson W Huddinge [Sweden]
63 Carolina Jamie McBain D Us National Under-18 Team

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[sandbox]

WHo's UP? (number of spots)
Staal(1)
Backstrom(1)
Mueller (2)
Little (2)
Wishart(4)
Irving (15)
Bouchard (10)
Mcginn (8)
Nodl (5)
Emmerton (5)
Kulemin (20)
Carle (15)
Varlamov (3)

Who's Down?
Johnson (1)
Toews (1)
Brassard(3)
Frolik(12)
Tlusty (3)
Bernier (4)

 

[Cush]

Top 5 would be the same (could probably put them in any order)

For the Caps:

Varlamov would probably be in the 15 - 20 range

Neuvirth & Bouchard could be in the 20 - 30 range

 

[Judas Tavares]

Like you said, Tlusty down a bit (though he had a great playoff) and Kulemin up the most, easily into the first round. In fact most of our draftees this year would have risen including James Reimer and the surprising Tyler Ruegsegger.

 

[Meat Wave]

For the Habs, 1st round pick David Fischer and 2nd round pick Ben Maxwell would stay pretty much where they were picked IMHO.

As for the other MTL 2006 draftees, Ryan White and Pavel Valentenko would go way up based on the success they had during the 06-07 season. White could probably be a top 25 pick and Valentenko a mid to late second-round pick.

 

[LeafsrGods*]

WHo's UP? (number of spots)
Staal(1)
Backstrom(1)
Mueller (2)
Little (2)
Wishart(4)
Irving (15)
Bouchard (10)
Mcginn (8)
Nodl (5)
Emmerton (5)
Kulemin (20)
Carle (15)
Varlamov (3)

Who's Down?
Johnson (1)
Toews (1)
Brassard(3)
Frolik(12)
Tlusty (3)
Bernier (4)

Acutally, i think everybody in this draft has proved enough to stay the same.

Johnson, Staal, Towes, Backstrom, Kessel, Little, Tlusty, Grabner stay the same, or i think that Little, Tlusty, Grabner, Okposo have shown enough to go ahead of players drafted ahead of them, because the players drafted ahead of them are a bit of a disapointement, (I.E: Michael Frolik, James Sheppard, Brassard, etc.)

Players that have significant jump: Claude Giroux, Nikolai Kulemin, Francois Bouchard, and Steve Mason.

 

[LeafsrGods*]

For the Habs, 1st round pick David Fischer and 2nd round pick Ben Maxwell would stay pretty much where they were picked IMHO.

As for the other MTL 2006 draftees, Ryan White and Pavel Valentenko would go way up based on the success they had during the 06-07 season. White could probably be a top 25 pick and Valentenko a mid to late second-round pick.

I agree, Ryan White should be a top 30 pick, imho, as he has the most points in his respective team.

 

[Rochester22]

Tony Romano would probably be picked in the top 3 rounds. He showed last year at Cornell that his skills translate.

 

[Meichel Kane]

Foligno is "up".

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Would Staal move to number one or would it still be EJ? The Blues do still covet a franchise center and seem pretty set even if you subtract EJ on defense.

 

[atreides]

Would Staal move to number one or would it still be EJ? The Blues do still covet a franchise center and seem pretty set even if you subtract EJ on defense.

EJ #1

Staal is very good but he's not a franchise C. EJ is a franchise D.

 

[Stealth JD]

Would Staal move to number one or would it still be EJ? The Blues do still covet a franchise center and seem pretty set even if you subtract EJ on defense.

The Blues would not trade EJ for Staal now, nor would they want to redo the draft and take the center instead. A solid NHL rookie campaign for Staal is nice and all.....but Johnson is still the top player of the draft in their eyes.

 

[Redwingsfan]

i'll take a crack at the first round. and it is possible that i forget someone.

round 1

1. erik johnson (1)
2. jordan staal (2)
3. jonathan toews (3)
4. nicklas backstrom (4)
5. phil kessel (5)
6. peter mueller (8)
7. kyle okposo (7)
8. derick brassard (6)
9. james sheppard (9)
10. brian little (12)
11. claude giroux (22)
12. leland irving (26)
13. michael frolik (10)
14. nikolai kulemin (44)
15. jonathan bernier (11)
16. michal neuvirth (34)
17. patrik berglund (25)
18. semen varlamov (23)
19. michael grabner (14)
20. francois bouchard (35)
21. andreas nodl (39)
22. ty wishart (16)
23. trevor lewis (17)
24. bobby sanguinetti (21)
25. chris stewart (18)
26. jiri tlusty (13)
27. steve mason (69)
28. kaspars daugavins (91)
29. sergei shirokov (163)
30. jan mursak (182)

 

[firstroundbust]

Johnson, Staal, Towes, Backstrom, Kessel, Little, Tlusty, Grabner stay the same, or i think that Little, Tlusty, Grabner, Okposo have shown enough to go ahead of players drafted ahead of them, because the players drafted ahead of them are a bit of a disapointement, (I.E: Michael Frolik, James Sheppard, Brassard, etc.)

.

How was Sheppard a disappointment?

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

i'll take a crack at the first round. and it is possible that i forget someone.

round 1

1. erik johnson (1)
2. jordan staal (2)
3. jonathan toews (3)
4. nicklas backstrom (4)
5. phil kessel (5)
6. peter mueller (8)
7. kyle okposo (7)
8. derick brassard (6)
9. james sheppard (9)
10. brian little (12)
11. claude giroux (22)
12. leland irving (26)
13. michael frolik (10)
14. nikolai kulemin (44)
15. jonathan bernier (11)
16. michal neuvirth (34)
17. patrik berglund (25)
18. semen varlamov (23)
19. michael grabner (14)
20. francois bouchard (35)
21. andreas nodl (39)
22. ty wishart (16)
23. trevor lewis (17)
24. bobby sanguinetti (21)
25. chris stewart (18)
26. jiri tlusty (13)
27. steve mason (69)
28. kaspars daugavins (91)
29. sergei shirokov (163)
30. jan mursak (182)

Holy european biased.

 

[Redwingsfan]

Holy european biased.

it has nothing to do with europe. i like NA more then i like europe. and BTW 18 of the players on my list are from NA

 

[Cerebral]

I think Petry would be "up," he has had a big year in the USHL and he has drawn rave reviews from a number of scouts. There was a nice write-up in McKeen's about him a few days ago that talked about his potential.

 

[LeafsrGods*]

i'll take a crack at the first round. and it is possible that i forget someone.

round 1

1. erik johnson (1)
2. jordan staal (2)
3. jonathan toews (3)
4. nicklas backstrom (4)
5. phil kessel (5)
6. peter mueller (8)
7. kyle okposo (7)
8. derick brassard (6)
9. james sheppard (9)
10. brian little (12)
11. claude giroux (22)
12. leland irving (26)
13. michael frolik (10)
14. nikolai kulemin (44)
15. jonathan bernier (11)
16. michal neuvirth (34)
17. patrik berglund (25)
18. semen varlamov (23)
19. michael grabner (14)
20. francois bouchard (35)
21. andreas nodl (39)
22. ty wishart (16)
23. trevor lewis (17)
24. bobby sanguinetti (21)
25. chris stewart (18)
26. jiri tlusty (13)
27. steve mason (69)
28. kaspars daugavins (91)
29. sergei shirokov (163)
30. jan mursak (182)

Claude Giroux #11?!?!?
Jiri Tlusty #26!!?!?!?
Kaspars Daugavins #28!!!!!!??!

Nice list, and i greatly thank for your efforts, but i really, REALLY, dont agree with that.

 

[Ferjo]

14. nikolai kulemin (44)
26. jiri tlusty (13)

I know it's difficult for people to not look at statistics when juding prospects, but Tlusty is still a better prospect than Kulemin.

and after watching a season of kaspars daugavins, he's a solid prospect, but he is nothing close to the level of a first round pick.

 

[LeafsrGods*]

I know it's difficult for people to not look at statistics when juding prospect, but Tlusty is still a better prospect than Kulemin.

Agreed. Tlusty shouldnt be anywhere there.
Kaspars Daugavins? Who?
I also think White should in there too.

 

[msky]

Makarov +5/7, i think

 

[Gags1288]

The Flyers did well with both of their first two picks. Giroux would probably be up slightly, probably somewhere in the teens. Nodl was arguably the most productive freshman in the country and I think he'd be a first round pick right now if they re-did the draft (though he is a year older).

It's very hard to get a read on Bodrov because so few people have seen him and he's not a player you can judge by stats as he's primarily a defensive defenseman.

 

[Langway]

Some players from the third round on that've improved their stock (and haven't been mentioned): Marchand, Clutterbuck, Sestito, Osala, Lapoint, Biega, Simek, Perreault and Barriball.

 

[X0ssbar]

How was Sheppard a disappointment?

...or Brassard...b/c he was cheap shotted in camp and was injured most of the year? Dude averaged 2 points a game in the playoffs and just under that in the regular season. His team was completely different once he got back in the lineup.

Hardly a dissapointment.

 

[Titan124]

Draft top 15:

1. Johnson- He's a defenseman, and he did pretty well, so it isn't fair to move Staal in front of him just yet, though it is very close.

2. Staal- Great season, but Johnson has far more value.

3. Backstrom- Dominated SEL at 19.

4. Toews- Didn't do anything wrong, it's just what Backstrom did right

5.Kessel- Good season for an 18 year old, especially considering what he had to battle through.

6. Okposo- Top freshman in the country. There was a stretch of time that he tore up the NCAA. Mueller is also worthy of this pick, though factors (like homerism), make me put Okposo ahead.

7. Mueller- He could easily be switched with Okposo. Tore up the OHL.

8. Brassard- He drops slightly because of injury, though the rare time he was healthy he played very well.

9. James Sheppard- Could've maybe been ranked eighth. Very strong season.

10. Frolik- Made a successful jump. Looks like he might be a good gamble.

11. Little- This is still probably underrating him. Perhaps the steal of the draft.

12. Tlusty- It's tough to put him this low, but he is up a rating. He's looked great.

13. Bernier- LA might have been stretching with this pick. He's put up another solid season.

14. Giroux- Yet another steal. He had yet another very good season.

15. Stewart- Once again had a great season in the OHL.



Other Players who are Up:

Tomas Marcinko, NYI- In his first season over in North America, the 4th rounder renowned for his defensive prowess tallied 40 pointsin 56 games.

Nigel Williams, COL- Some said he could go first round, but he fell to the middle of the second. After leaving the University of Wisconsin in what seemed close to a hissy fit, he did very well in the OHL.

There are definitely more, but these are two that have really stuck out to me.



Other players who are Down:

Blake Geoffrion, NSH- Dismal season at Wisconsin. Between him and Nigel Williams, I think some serious questions can be asked about Wisconsin's developing of prospects.