piqued
nos merentur hoc
- Nov 22, 2006
- 32,101
- 3,145
prospect
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country
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acquired
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round
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% of vote
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Brett Ritchie
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RW
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2011
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2nd
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▲ 4
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73.9
Agreed, but people are gonna keep voting for him again and again, look at the past 4 years. The sheer amount of time it's taken to only get to the point where we are now should confirm that those past high placements weren't right. Again this year with Lindback and Rynnas both in the mix it doesn't seem like he's being counted on to be the clear cut AHL starter. I think his performance gives a lot of signs of encouragement for the future, but the amount of injuries that have piled up gives me the same amount of pause. Then you look at someone like John Gibson who already has NHL playoff experience... it's maddening.Klingberg. I think people here overrate Campbell, he has only had one really good season but he was injured therefore created a very small sample size. He is definitely not top 3 IMO.
Agreed, but people are gonna keep voting for him again and again, look at the past 4 years. The sheer amount of time it's taken to only get to the point where we are now should confirm that those past high placements weren't right. Again this year with Lindback and Rynnas both in the mix it doesn't seem like he's being counted on to be the clear cut AHL starter. I think his performance gives a lot of signs of encouragement for the future, but the amount of injuries that have piled up gives me the same amount of pause. Then you look at someone like John Gibson who already has NHL playoff experience... it's maddening.
Great post. Gibson was a 2nd round pick too. Also one could argue Derosiers is a better prospect, the guy has actually had one full good season and postseason.
Campbell's upside is really high and he was great when he played this year. The strike against him is that he has a hard time staying healthy. I went with him over Klingberg or some of the others because of potential. I can understand and respect the rationale for taking Klingberg here though. Arguments can be made for both players.
But the end of the NHL lockout and then an injury to Nilstorp gave Campbell a chance to take the reins in Texas for a while and he was superb. In February, he posted a 6-2-1 record, 1.65 goals against average and .932 save percentage.
“Jack had a huge developmental year, a great positive step coming out of juniors,” said Dallas Stars goaltending coach Mike Valley. “He ran that stretch in February where he played almost every game, and I think that was a lot of confidence for him. His game has really started maturing. He’s playing a lot more controlled, he’s controlling himself more emotionally, too.”
“It’s part of the process. Healthy competition is good,” said Stars GM Jim Nill. “It doesn’t mean we are brushing off his development. We’re very conscious that he needs to play, he needs to play a certain amount of games. But that can’t be given to him, he needs to earn it. We’ve talked to him. We’re conscious of where he is and he’s in a good spot. He’ll be just fine.”
That doesn't really address any of the questions or the reasoning behind ranking a goalie with a limited track record and quite likely several years distance between himself and significant contribution in the NHL this highly.
How is the knock against him he can't stay healthy when this was the first season he wasn't healthy?
I can't recall any other significant injury issues, and I did try to do a quick search on Google. Didn't see anything of note.
It absolutely is a bias against goaltenders. In general I wouldn't rank them as highly as skaters, just as I wouldn't draft them as highly. Why is Gibson a guaranteed superstar but Campbell isn't? Shouldn't he be? They may peak later than skaters but that doesn't mean they have as many years of contributing at a high level.This sounds like a bias against goaltenders in general because they often don't make an impact in the NHL until 24 or 25 years old, unless they are basically guaranteed superstars like Gibson. However, they peak later than skaters so you'll end up getting the same quality years out of them, just a bit later. I just don't see a justification in knocking a goalie prospect for being a few years away.
I didn't say the Lindback and Rynnas acquisitions said anything negative about Campbell, simply that they once again will likely result in him playing less games and thereby lengthening his development process. All the platitudes about competition are great, but as we've seen repeatedly coaches will gravitate toward playing veterans and there's only one net. Not 8 winger positions.... and if signing Rynnas and Lindback says anything negative about Campbell or his development ... I guess they really don't trust Ritchie either since signing Hemsky, appearing to be happy moving forward with Cole getting a serious look in the Top 6, and adding several one-way contracts to make bringing in two way forwards more difficult would obviously be some sort of commentary about Brett ... or well maybe it's just this:
I didn't say the Lindback and Rynnas acquisitions said anything negative about Campbell, simply that they once again will likely result in him playing less games and thereby lengthening his development process. All the platitudes about competition are great, but as we've seen repeatedly coaches will gravitate toward playing veterans and there's only one net. Not 8 winger positions.