1st quarter/ 20 games grades

[14ari13]

So, now we have something to evaluate.

Let's do it.

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[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Zetterberg: B
Abdelkader: C
Larkin: A
Tatar: B
Nyquist: B+
Sheahan: D
Pulkkinen: C-
Miller: B-
Glendening: C
Athanasiou: B/Inc.
Richards: Inc.
Datsyuk: Inc.
Andersson: D
Jurco: D/Inc.
Franzen: F/Waived

Kronwall: D
DeKeyser: C+
Ericsson: B-
Kindl: C-
Marchenko: B
Quincey: B-/Inc.
Green: B

Jimmy Howard: B+
Petr Mrazek: A

 

[TheMule93]

I mostly agree with you Sweeny, tho I'd give kronner a C

 

[Actual Thought*]

Given that hockey is a team game and this team has yet to play as a cohesive unit for a complete 60 minute game it seems odd to me to give individual grades. I would give all players other than Howard and Mrazk an inconclusive. Mrazk and Howard get As for carrying the team through every win they have. Without their play the team could be last in the league.

If a working system emerges and the players are put in a position that allows them to succeed then you can judge individually whether or not the take advantage of that opportunity. That isn't the case at this time.

 

[Flowah]

Tatar is not a B. B- at best

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Offense is underperforming, but that should change after Datsyuk plays a couple more games.

Defense continues to be a joke. That won't change.

 

[Obe2kenobe]

Zetterberg: B
Abdelkader: C
Larkin: A
Tatar: B
Nyquist: B+
Sheahan: D
Pulkkinen: C-
Miller: B-
Glendening: C
Athanasiou: B/Inc.
Richards: Inc.
Datsyuk: Inc.
Andersson: D
Jurco: D/Inc.
Franzen: F/Waived

Kronwall: D
DeKeyser: C+
Ericsson: B-
Kindl: C-
Marchenko: B
Quincey: B-/Inc.
Green: B

Jimmy Howard: B+
Petr Mrazek: A

I think you pretty much nailed it. I would give Pulks B-, Kindl a C. And add Blash and give him a C.

 

[Claypool]

To me the worst player this season so far based on their play and expectation last season has been Glendening. Hasn't looked like the premier shut down center I thought he'd turn into, and his point totals are bad considering he scored 12 last season.

 

[hyduK]

To me the worst player this season so far based on their play and expectation last season has been Glendening. Hasn't looked like the premier shut down center I thought he'd turn into, and his point totals are bad considering he scored 12 last season.

Yeah, need to give him some more minutes so he gets into the groove again.

 

[odin1981]

Zetterberg: B
Abdelkader: C
Larkin: A
Tatar: B
Nyquist: B+
Sheahan: D
Pulkkinen: C-
Miller: B-
Glendening: C
Athanasiou: B/Inc.
Richards: Inc.
Datsyuk: Inc.
Andersson: D
Jurco: D/Inc.
Franzen: F/Waived

Kronwall: D
DeKeyser: C+
Ericsson: B-
Kindl: C-
Marchenko: B
Quincey: B-/Inc.
Green: B

Jimmy Howard: B+
Petr Mrazek: A

How is Franzen a F? 2 games and concussion symptoms returned. Then Ltir'd. Just a tad biit much of personal bias showing there.

 

[Flowah]

To me the worst player this season so far based on their play and expectation last season has been Glendening. Hasn't looked like the premier shut down center I thought he'd turn into, and his point totals are bad considering he scored 12 last season.

I don't care about his points as much as his new found apparent penchant for taking bad penalties.

He's one of our main PKers and *he's* the one going to the box. Come on.

 

[Classicnamesup]

Don't forget Smith, he gets an "F" for "trade for a Fifth, please"

 

[odin1981]

Don't forget Smith, he gets an "F" for "trade for a Fifth, please"

Hahaha be realistic he is a 7th at best and maybe a conditional 7th at that.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

NHL would have to bring back the 9th round in the draft if the Wings wanted to get a pick for Smith.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

what the guy said.

Though swap ericsson and kronners ranking

 

[Hckytwn]

Glendening, Richards, Miller, Jurco, Helm, Datsyuk, Andersson, Ferraro have played in 93 total games and have a grand total of 8 points. That's an .09 pt/gm average.

To put that in perspective, Anderson and Cleary each had a .12 pt/gm average last season. So as far as offensive production goes that group isn't playing up to even that low, low level.

Sure, you can give an "inc" to the injured players, but when they have played, they've been nearly non-existent in the o-zone. Personally, I wouldn't give anyone in that group higher than a D+ as they've absolutely failed in half of their gameplay.

Finally, if this group--who hasn't scored once--scored at a 6-goal per 82 game pace (i.e. Miller's avg last two years) the Wings would have +.34 more gpg, moving them from #26 to #18... and probably giving them 3-4 more points in the standings.

 

[HisNoodliness]

My grades:
Mrazek:A+
Larkin:A+
Z:A-
Goose:B+
Howard:B+
Green:B
Tats:B-
Marchey:B-
Kronwall:C+
DK:C+
Pulcannon:C
Telly Tubby:C
Abby:C-
Kindl:C-
Ericsson:C-
Smith,Luke,Miller,Helm: D/D-
Everyone else hasn't played enough for me to grade. I will say that I think AA would be on his way to an A if he maintained that play.

I judged them on how well they've played especially considering expectations. Thus Larkin and Mrazek are rookies so each gets a bit of slack for small mistakes. I don't expect Luke to produce offense so I don't give him a bad grade when he fails to do so. He just hasn't played D that well this year. And so on. That's my two cents. I'm sure there'll be some disagreement.

 

[Classicnamesup]

Glendening, Richards, Miller, Jurco, Helm, Datsyuk, Andersson, Ferraro have played in 93 total games and have a grand total of 8 points. That's an .09 pt/gm average.

To put that in perspective, Anderson and Cleary each had a .12 pt/gm average last season. So as far as offensive production goes that group isn't playing up to even that low, low level.

Sure, you can give an "inc" to the injured players, but when they have played, they've been nearly non-existent in the o-zone. Personally, I wouldn't give anyone in that group higher than a D+ as they've absolutely failed in half of their gameplay.

Finally, if this group--who hasn't scored once--scored at a 6-goal per 82 game pace (i.e. Miller's avg last two years) the Wings would have +.34 more gpg, moving them from #26 to #18... and probably giving them 3-4 more points in the standings.

Glendening really hasn't had many backhands yet this year for some reason. He was much better last year, he was a rock solid defender who also agitated. This year he has had his struggles, as has Miller who is coming off a nice year himself.

Richards certainly looked good in the pre-season and for some reason is not yet doing it during the real season, hope he gets going.

Helm has also been disappointing no doubt but he was playing with Dats most of the year. Wouldn't mind playing him with Dats to get his value up and trading him off to some sucker.

Jurco - needs to get the offense going

Andersson/Ferraro - I don't expect any offense from either one of them, would rather Andersson be our press box buddy

Dats - don't know if we can expect a replication of last year but he is just getting back from injury, I am confident he will get his game going soon enough. Had a great chance last game

 

[JPE123]

For me, Helm is most disappointing with Glenny a close second.

 

[jkutswings]

Larkin A+
Mrazek A







Wait..
There are other players on the Wings?

 

[Sentinel]

Zetterberg: A-
Abdelkader: C+
Larkin: A
Tatar: C+
Nyquist: B+
Sheahan: D
Pulkkinen: C-
Miller: B-
Glendening: C
Athanasiou: Inc.
Richards: Inc.
Datsyuk: Inc.
Andersson: D
Jurco: D

Kronwall: D
DeKeyser: C+
Ericsson: C
Kindl: C-
Marchenko: B
Quincey: Inc.
Green: B-

Jimmy Howard: B
Petr Mrazek: A

 

[14ari13]

Glendening, Richards, Miller, Jurco, Helm, Datsyuk, Andersson, Ferraro have played in 93 total games and have a grand total of 8 points. That's an .09 pt/gm average.

To put that in perspective, Anderson and Cleary each had a .12 pt/gm average last season. So as far as offensive production goes that group isn't playing up to even that low, low level.

Sure, you can give an "inc" to the injured players, but when they have played, they've been nearly non-existent in the o-zone. Personally, I wouldn't give anyone in that group higher than a D+ as they've absolutely failed in half of their gameplay.

Finally, if this group--who hasn't scored once--scored at a 6-goal per 82 game pace (i.e. Miller's avg last two years) the Wings would have +.34 more gpg, moving them from #26 to #18... and probably giving them 3-4 more points in the standings.

Good point.

A+ Larkin and Mrazek
A Zetterberg
B Tatar, Nyquist, Howard, Dekeyser, Green, Abdelkader, Pulkkinen
C Datsyuk, Ericsson, AA, Kronwall, Richards, Marchenko, Kindl, Quincey
D Glendening, Miller, Sheahan
E Smith, Helm, Andersson, Jurco

 

[Bushay]

Though swap ericsson and kronners ranking

My thoughts too. But even a stretch giving Ericsson a D. He's been holding us back back there. And he needs to go. One of those big WEst coast teams would love hime back there. LA, Van, SJ,Anaheim. Lets do this one.

 

[Flowah]

Glendening, Richards, Miller, Jurco, Helm, Datsyuk, Andersson, Ferraro have played in 93 total games and have a grand total of 8 points. That's an .09 pt/gm average.

Let's be clear. The *vast* majority of those 93 games had nothing to do with Datsyuk or Richards or even Jurco. All of whom I expect to start producing.

Good point.

A+ Larkin and Mrazek
A Zetterberg
B Tatar, Nyquist, Howard, Dekeyser, Green, Abdelkader, Pulkkinen
C Datsyuk, Ericsson, AA, Kronwall, Richards, Marchenko, Kindl, Quincey
D Glendening, Miller, Sheahan
E Smith, Helm, Andersson, Jurco

I cannot justify putting Tatar and Nyquist and Pulkkinen on the same grade. Nyquist has been noticeably better than both and Tatar has struggled. Pulks, while scoring some timely goals, has been pretty weak on the puck and turned it over a lot.

 

[Fugu]

I'll post mine in TOI/gm, then add basic stats.

Forwards:

19:20 Zetterberg: A-.....4G/14A (#1)
18:02 Abdelkader: B-....5G/7A (#4)
16:32 Larkin: A++........8G/7A (#2)
16:04 Nyquist: B..........7G/5A (#5)
15:34 Glendening: C.....1G/2A
15:28 Sheahan: C.........3G/2A
15:00 Tatar: A-............6G/8A (#3)
13:48 Miller: C+...........0G/1A
13:42 Helm.................2G/2A
12:36 Pulkkinen: B.......6G/4A (#6)

<11 Games Played
14:28 Richards: Inc......0G/4A
10:40 Andersson..........0G/0A
10:02 Jurco.................0G/1A
08:53 Athanasiou.........1G/0A

Datsyuk - Incomplete


Defenders:

23:04 Kronwall: D.........0G/7A (21 GP) -8
21:12 Green: B-...........1G/6A (15 GP) -5
20:40 DeKeyser: B+.....1G/3A (17 GP) -1
19:09 Ericsson: D-.......1G/0A (21 GP +2
18:59 Quincey: Inc...... 1G/2A (7GP) +1
17:48 Smith: C+..........1G/2A (14 GP) +4
17:02 Kindl: C..............2G/3A (17 GP) +3
16:14 Marchenko: C......0G/0A (14 GP) -4

Ericsson has 30 PIMs. Next highest is 10 (Kindl, Smith).

Fairly anemic scoring from the back end.

Jimmy Howard: B -- 2.34 GAA/Sv% .917
Petr Mrazek: A+ --- 2.15 GAA/Sv% .935