Post-Game Talk: #17 | Flyers at Bruins | November 17, 2022 | 7:00 PM |

[Beef Invictus]

At the time those trades were made, the expectation was the Flyers would be picking more like #50-60.
Delusional, but that was how the FO saw reality.

The big change that should come in drafting is more emphasis on speed, small and slow is no way to win in the NHL.
Torts' forecheck game needs fast forwards, especially in the bottom six ( they're bottom six players b/c they lack skill).
And if D-men are going to pinch on a regular basis, they'd better be able to get back quickly.

This was not something Holmgren or Hextall emphasized, and Fletcher only did sporadically.
TK, Sanheim, NAK and Frost in five years.
Tippett and TDA add speed, Sedlak and MacEwen have pretty good jets, but they need a bunch more.

Ideally they can start adding 6'0 200 lb types who can skate later in drafts.

There's a lot more to hockey than skating fast.

 

[Flyer lurker]

What is it that you want? For them to trade every player over 23 for draft picks? (Like that’s even remotely possible with the league wide cap situation.) And to lose as many games as possible season after season until hopefully enough picks pan out? And if they don’t, repeat the process? While any remaining fans lose interest &/or die out? And you think they’re a laughingstock now?

I like them to have players over 23 and you could get draft picks if you wanted to. Generally a 1 2 5m and roster player should acquire a player who doesn't have negative trade value.

 

[freakydallas13]

There's a lot more to hockey than skating fast.

Excuse you, Justin Bailey was the best player the Flyers have had on the roster in well over a decade.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Excuse you, Justin Bailey was the best player the Flyers have had on the roster in well over a decade.

Bring back Brad Jones

 

[deadhead]

There's a lot more to hockey than skating fast.

Yes, but in the bottom six, in this scheme, speed should be prioritized, a fast forechecker has more value than a mediocre skill player who can't get the puck back in the first place. Even if the forecheckers have limited skill, they can get the puck to a more skilled teammate and go to the net and set screens.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Yes, but in the bottom six, in this scheme, speed should be prioritized, a fast forechecker has more value than a mediocre skill player who can't get the puck back in the first place. Even if the forecheckers have limited skill, they can get the puck to a more skilled teammate and go to the net and set screens.

Selecting primarily for a scheme unlikely to exist in a year or two is a bad idea.

Transition ability is far more effective, and those players help teams play faster. The puck is faster than most skaters.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

I am once again here to say that just because Hextall failed at it doesn’t mean that it was the wrong plan.

This team isn’t turning it around until 2030 with where it’s at regardless.

What is your path to success with how the team is currently constructed?

Try harder, put the work in, sack up, play the right way, effort, be a f***ing Flyer, we don't care who you are, accountability.

Instacup

 

[Flyer lurker]

What is your path to success with how the team is currently constructed?

Be born in Minnesota
trade all 2nd round picks for vet d men
give good players 7-8 year deals
avoiding drafting all skill players
speed is the enemy

How can it fail?

 

[VladDrag]

Yes, but in the bottom six, in this scheme, speed should be prioritized, a fast forechecker has more value than a mediocre skill player who can't get the puck back in the first place. Even if the forecheckers have limited skill, they can get the puck to a more skilled teammate and go to the net and set screens.

Would it shock you to know that both Morgan Frost and Noah Cates are leading the forwards in5v5 takeaways/60 and Zach MacEwen is the worst.

Further, when you look at the entire league, the takeaways/60, it’s mostly lead by skill guys.

 

[Beef Invictus]

And if there is anything that this team has proven annually, it's that players without skill struggle to even get the puck to more skilled players so they can do the work. They struggle to even get and keep the puck, much less move it.

 

[deadhead]

Which is why MacEwen is outscoring Frost?

 

[VladDrag]

Which is why MacEwen is outscoring Frost?

What is the point you are trying to make here?

 

[Curufinwe]

Which is why MacEwen is outscoring Frost?

Why did you think posts like these would work out for you?